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Is abortion murder? Jon Dougherty reviews lawsuit won by pro-life demonstrator against city
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, May 17, 2002 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 05/17/2002 3:52:54 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Quila
"It was none of our business"

Ah, an "amoralist?
Klintons actions were (are) part of the spiritual illness that is infecting this country, as is your "I don't care" attitude.
People are killing thier babies? Hey, as long as they're not hurting ME.
The President is molesting young girls in the Oval Office? Hey, the economy's going good, what do I care?

41 posted on 05/20/2002 11:07:06 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Quila
Not condeming anyone, just in this particular case, two lives are involved. Who speaks for the unborn child? According to our Constitution's Amendment V, no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." Which certainly isn't happening here. And it's not a case of war, or self-defense either. On issues that affect the individual solely, I would agree that you have the right to do as you please.
42 posted on 05/20/2002 2:03:28 PM PDT by 4CJ
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To: Quila
Distance yourself from the moral arguments and put on that cold, hard thinking cap and look at the law of supply and demand. posted by Quila Having read your entries throughout this thread, I would pause here to point out that the trend in human behavior, in a well fed, well entertained society, aims toward gross self indulgence. You appear to see nothing unsettling about such a trend and have come to accept slaughtering the most vulnerable human individuals as 'a woman's right to choose' ... a serial killer to off the new human being within her body. [As you may know, the killing of forced deliveries is now very popular with abortuaries, because the fetal body parts are better, more identifiable.]

When the trend in our Republic begins to move toward some or many states banning abortion and the intrusive SCOTUS leaving the laws as written by the states as their right to do so --ban from perhaps after the first two months even, the trend with our fellow Americans will have an opportunity to awaken to the truth that every individual human life begins at conception, that implantation of a unique life is the beginning of a woman's life support for that new, individual life, and that our founding principles embraced the odd notion that life IS endowed by our Creator.

If we will not protect the most vulnerable individual human beings among us, we will fail to thrive as a Republic. I, frankly, don't want to live in a federal state of America. Holding serial killing as a legal and institutionalized 'choice' is as glaring an abuse of central authority as one can imagine ... and it is the slope from which the multitude of aborted human rights flows, depending upon whom holds the power. Is the above too difficult for you to follow?

43 posted on 05/20/2002 8:00:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: logos; VictoriaDelsoul; Kevin Curry; Psalm73; DrBrianKopp
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44 posted on 05/20/2002 8:30:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for your post. You're right about it.

No society can long claim the term "civilized" if it has no desire to protect its mothers and their unborn. Abortion threatens all of us because it can destroy the very society in which we live.

45 posted on 05/20/2002 10:28:19 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
We can indeed point to Roe v. Wade as the the defining moment America began to be transformed into the moral relativistic society it is today.
46 posted on 05/20/2002 10:41:36 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: MHGinTN
Is the above too difficult for you to follow?

Still listening...

47 posted on 05/21/2002 12:31:15 AM PDT by Quila
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
According to our Constitution's Amendment V, no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

Then there's always the funny side effects. I should have been able to start drinking and voting nine months earlier (but not at the same time: don't drink and vote, you may elect Republicrats), and my insurance company owes me nine months of higher pre-25 age premiums. You also have to let pregnant women out of jail.

48 posted on 05/21/2002 12:37:33 AM PDT by Quila
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To: Psalm 73
The President is molesting young girls in the Oval Office? Hey, the economy's going good, what do I care?

You mean the President is engaging in consensual sex with an adult in the White House. Yes, I do think it's none of our damn business. That person should be held only to his performance as chief executive and nothing else because that's what we elected him for. Not that Clinton did well in this respect either.

Go to your priests for moral examples (must...resist...Catholic...joke...).

49 posted on 05/21/2002 1:08:06 AM PDT by Quila
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To: AppyPappy
There is a huge lack of babies. I know several people trying to adopt. Some give up and go to China to get them.

And some people aren't allowed to adopt because they don't meet stringent requirements that natural parents aren't subject to.

50 posted on 05/21/2002 1:09:12 AM PDT by Quila
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To: Quila
That wouldn't explain the waiting list. And most people go through private adoption agencies.
51 posted on 05/21/2002 4:12:14 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Quila
"You mean the President is engaging in consensual sex with an adult in the White House. Yes, I do think it's none of our damn business
Go to your priests for moral examples (must...resist...Catholic...joke...)."

Oh, you also think that clergy molesting children is funny stuff? Amorality is a wonderful thing, huh.
Now your true side is coming out, figured it would, you can only disguise your left-lean for so long.

52 posted on 05/21/2002 4:34:39 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Quila
Q:but I'm not up to debating this right now because I can't truly support either side

SS. I have read many of your posts and it seems you come up on the side of what a democRAT would support.

You could dispel this idea, of being a RAT, if you would reval your voting record.

53 posted on 05/21/2002 5:12:29 AM PDT by sausageseller
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To: sausageseller
SS. I have read many of your posts and it seems you come up on the side of what a democRAT would support

Coincidence. The Taliban probably banned abortion too, but that doesn't make you one of them, does it? You could dispel this idea, of being a RAT, if you would reval your voting record.

That's quite a private thing. I will tell you I've never registered with the Republicratic party, and my votes usually go to Republicans, Libertarians and independents. I don't have many litmus tests, and they aren't along party lines.

54 posted on 05/21/2002 5:31:44 AM PDT by Quila
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To: Psalm 73
Oh, you also think that clergy molesting children is funny stuff? Amorality is a wonderful thing, huh.

If you can't joke about it, then all hope is lost.

you can only disguise your left-lean for so long.

Excuse me, is there a list somewhere that details exactly what I'm supposed to believe on every subject in order to be "conservative"? If there is, I'm bailing. I refuse to be a sheep.

55 posted on 05/21/2002 5:34:37 AM PDT by Quila
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To: AppyPappy
That wouldn't explain the waiting list. And most people go through private adoption agencies.

We're getting off track. Let's just agree the process could use some streamlining and cost-cutting (you could use those several thousand in lawyers fees to take care of the kid), and could use some more babies that would have otherwise been aborted.

56 posted on 05/21/2002 5:36:25 AM PDT by Quila
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To: Quila
You also have to let pregnant women out of jail.

The unborn child will continue to be where the mother is regardless of circumastance or location until born.

But I also posted that I was not "condemning anyone, just in this particular case, two lives are involved. Who speaks for the unborn child?", which was ignored. Why does a women's choice to kill her unborn child outweigh that of the father? Why can two parents create a child, but only the mother (and not the father or child) have rights?

57 posted on 05/21/2002 5:39:04 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: Quila
Let's stop killing the children so they can be adopted. There is more of a baby shortage than there is a shortage of parents.
58 posted on 05/21/2002 5:39:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Quila
Q:Coincidence. The Taliban probably banned abortion too

SS. Use of the word "Taliban" in an reply.

Another common "RAT" tactic.

As for your voting record, it was a question and if you choose not to reply thats your choice.

BTW Do you vote for candidates that hold your views?

59 posted on 05/21/2002 5:42:14 AM PDT by sausageseller
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To: sausageseller
SS. Use of the word "Taliban" in an reply. Another common "RAT" tactic.

Q: Use of reference to Democrats, liberals or left as a derogatory term.

BTW Do you vote for candidates that hold your views?

No, since they never hold all of my views. As I said, I don't have many litmus tests, so I have to take everything into consideration when voting, and make a balanced decision.

60 posted on 05/21/2002 6:04:22 AM PDT by Quila
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