Admin/Sidebar/Lead Moderators, I don't normally write vanities like this but this one is important -- and I believe effective. Freepers, please keep this bumped so this message can get out.
1 posted on
05/17/2002 6:36:15 AM PDT by
Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Laz;
As always, quality input
Congrats, and Good luck, and from what I have heard and seen,
good choice.
105 posted on
05/17/2002 7:32:04 AM PDT by
vin-one
To: Lazamataz
I have not heard anyone mention that just last week one leading Dem, I think Sen. Bingaman, came out claiming the administration was making too big a deal of warnings such as the bridges in Ca., etc. Does anyone have a link to this recent story?
To: Lazamataz
Here's a better question.
Think of all those warnings that Ashcroft has been sending out since 9/11 whenever we get even a hint of something going down. Then think of the liberal response to how all of that has been a waste of everyone's time. Think of all the criticism the whitehouse has received over these "false alarms" and then tell me:
If they give him such a hard time now... even after 9/11... what credibility can they possibly have when they claim that he should have warned us about the threat before 9/11 proved that it was real?
109 posted on
05/17/2002 7:38:51 AM PDT by
IMRight
To: Lazamataz
Good Job Laz. This is excellent point, but someone has beat you to the punch...it was (and still is) on
Rush's website yesterday
110 posted on
05/17/2002 7:38:55 AM PDT by
kcpopps
To: Lazamataz
, I don't normally write vanities like this but this one is important -- and I believe effective.... Hmmm....and I don't ordinarily take bragging rights (actually I do but that's another story) but I posted this observation on ANOTHER THREAD at 9:16 this morning, 20 minutes before your post. Here is what I posted on Reply #11 of that THREAD:
"However, this won't prevent the Demmycrats with Presidential ambitions (Dashle, Gephardt, Hillary, etc.) from making it sound almost like Bush knew in advance that airplanes would be flown into the WTC Towers and the Pentagon. BTW, one other point. Even most of the hijackers themselves didn't know their planes would be flown into buildings. Only the hijackers doing the actual piloting knew this. The rest of them thought they were just along on a standard hijacking. This is also what the intelligence agencies thought when they got some evidence that a hijacking might be in the works. NONE of the intelligence agencies (nor did most of the hijackers themselves) had any inkling that the planes would be used as flying bombs."---Quote by PJ-Comix, "Humble" Pundit Par Excellence, made at 9:16 AM on 5-17-02.
To: Lazamataz
Your logic is impeccable.......However logic and liberals are very strange bedfellows. They would just tsk.... tsk.....tsk that retort away. The media will run with this story until the gimmiecraps tell them to stop.
113 posted on
05/17/2002 7:42:36 AM PDT by
PISANO
To: Lazamataz; BigWaveBetty; Billie; Mountaineer; Timeout; Clancyj;
daisyscarlett; LBGA; rheo...
Excellent post, I am adding my massive ping list. This needs to get out!
To: Lazamataz
BUMPPPPPPP
To: Lazamataz
Short and to the point. Excellent! You should be nominated for Genius Of The Day.
To: Lazamataz
If the actual perpetrators didn't know what was going to happen, HOW WAS GEORGE W. BUSH SUPPOSED TO KNOW?So there you have it. End of story. All of the leadership in DC is innocent as always.
What a terrorist operation, the actual perpetrators didn't even know what was going to happen. Those planes had eyes, and orders.
To: Lazamataz
Silly. Since 1995 the CIA and FBI had known about the hijacking plans. In fact they were pretty sure in 1998 that the targets would include D.C. and New York.
It would have taken a single, inexpensive step in order to prevent the attacks: Arm pilots and flight crews and train them.
The typical government response to any crisis like this is to assume that everyone outside of government is stupid, unable to defend themselves, and should be stripped of their freedom in order to preserve safety.
This paradigm is damning for Bush and anyone else who has held the office with that belief system.
130 posted on
05/17/2002 8:17:15 AM PDT by
Demidog
To: Lazamataz
thanks for the Post, and congrats on your engagement! :) Your response is appropriate and I will certainly use it!
133 posted on
05/17/2002 8:22:29 AM PDT by
MistyCA
To: Lazamataz
Yep, I said the same thing on another thread. Glad you posted it to its own thread maybe Rush, Hannity, etc. will pick it up. As someone else pointed out, some of the DUh's actually think the video tape is fake but then they are idiots. Congrats on the marriage and if you are Freeping on your honeymoon, you better be glad you married a Freeper.
135 posted on
05/17/2002 8:23:58 AM PDT by
techcor
To: Lazamataz
Bush had info the low-level hijackers didn't have.
This Massouwi (sp) was taking flying lessons but not landing lessons. If one of the hijackers had known that he (Massouwi) was going to be flying the plane after the pilots were killed, it might have given that hijacker pause.
I seriously wonder if all this is not just wagging the dog.
Maybe the administration is saying, "hey don't worry about Homeland security. We have all the tools we need. We had them all along. Your trillions of tax dollars for intelligence didn't go down the toilet after all. We are more alert now. Don't worry. Be happy."
Walt
To: Lazamataz
Great point. Will pass it on.
Much happiness and best wishes to both of you!
Bump.
To: Lazamataz
Bumping Congratulations on your recent nuptuals. Bump!
To: Lazamataz
Laz, your rebuke is excellent, but I've investigated crimes where the plan leaked out without the drone crooks doing the dirty work knowing the whole picture. Bank robberies done by gangs, for example. The street gangs would use pooh-butt wannabe's for the actual robberies, but keep those guys insulated from the overall strategies, surveillances, etc.
In this case, I am outraged that the left is making an issue of this, especially given Clinton's obscene lack of follow-up on all the info HE had. Again, I like your approach, but strictly speaking as the Devil's Advocate, it may have been possible for the plan to have leaked without all the low-level "pilots" knowing. At least one of the pilots on each plane had to know the targets, or the plan wouldn't have worked.
162 posted on
05/17/2002 9:13:51 AM PDT by
Mjaye
To: Lazamataz
Wait...are you saying that you believe what Bin Laden says?
163 posted on
05/17/2002 9:15:13 AM PDT by
newcats
To: Lazamataz
Still no excuse for the CIA not to know what's going on.
Even if it means they have to bug every camel's butt in the mideast. The ineviatble alternative is nuclear armageddon.
BUMP
165 posted on
05/17/2002 9:18:21 AM PDT by
tm22721
To: Lazamataz
Excellent, Laz! Send it to the
RNC. Send it to
Hannity at Foxnews.
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