Mystery of Israeli spies in America: the ecstasy factor - drugs enter story

The Daily Star ^ | 5-14-02 | Ed Blanche

[Libertarian_4_eva]

Israeli crime groups have been dealing with ecstasy for years now this is not news.

[Catspaw]

Funny--Sammy "The Bull" Gravano plead guilty to pushing(actually, he was the wholesaler) thousands of hits of Ecstasy a week in & around Phoenix, but I haven't heard anyone trash Italians or the Mob. BTW, his lawyer? Lynne Stewart. She was just busted for helping her client, one Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, send messages to his Islamic Group followers even while doing his life term for all kinds of nasty terrorist stuff.

[Cachelot]

but I haven't heard anyone trash Italians or the Mob

Of course not. And here we have this vacuumhead "former LEO" who seems unable to add two and two, far less coming up with four.

Oh well. Some people reach their level of incompetence just an inch off the ground, I guess. Or show their allegiance :)).

[rmlew]

George,
Running propoganda from the Media organization that made up the myth that no Israeli or Jew was in the World Trade Center on 9-11?

[vance]

*Six months after a flurry of reports that US authorities had rounded up and quietly deported some 120 young Israelis, most of them posing as "art students" while apparently spying on US government agencies before and after Sept. 11, their activities remain shrouded in mystery.

Considering that the art students were not spies, the whole article can be dismissed as BS. Anyone who cannot see that is pretty stupid.

[SJackson]

Funny--Sammy "The Bull" Gravano plead guilty to pushing(actually, he was the wholesaler) thousands of hits of Ecstasy a week in & around Phoenix, but I haven't heard anyone trash Italians or the Mob. BTW, his lawyer? Lynne Stewart. She was just busted for helping her client, one Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, send messages to his Islamic Group followers even while doing his life term for all kinds of nasty terrorist stuff. ????????????????? Almost as bigoted as trashing the Vatican over Robert Hansen. There are freepers who would castigate a religion, catholic, or nationality, Italian, over the existance of a criminal in their midst? I'm disallusioned.

[Diogenes of Sinope]

"You can't even get the spelling of Bugsy Siegel's name right. Guess we don't have to wonder if you will ever win a Nobel Prize. How many Arabs have won the Nobel Prize - as compared to Jews?"

This must mean Veronica ascribes to the racial superiority of Jews over "pallies" (AKA Untermensch). If her arguement has any merit we should inquire into the ratio of Nobel prize winners between Christians and Jews, Germans and Jews, etc. to see where she fits into her own universe.

[veronica]

Why don't you just answer the question instead of playing Miss Cleo and claiming to be able to read my mind.

[SJackson]

I don’t know how observant any of them were, but Buggsy Segal (Jew) worked for Meyer Lansky (Jew), and were both supervised by Guiseppe Masseria (???), Sal Maranzano (???), and Lucky Luciano(???). I know this is important, or it wouldn’t have been posted (no freeper would be posting lists of Jewish criminals would they?) but I’m learning nothing from it. Mickey Cohen, maybe something there. He wasn’t religious, and became a Christian, ministered to by none other that Billy Graham. But Sammy “the Bull” is a (????????). So is the teflón don (???). I must be missing something here. Can anyone fill in the (???)? What does this mean. This racist stuff is confusing.

[SJackson]

Veronica, that's not "the" Miss Cleo is it?

Miss Swen tells your fortune as Miss Cleo, mon!

[SJackson]

You never answered. Did you know Mickey Cohen converted, with Billy Graham’s help? Why do you speak German so much? If you’re naturalized, I understand, that's OK. But your english is pretty good. Really. You should use it.

[Diogenes of Sinope]

Cohen's conversion is not relevant if Veronica's position of a Jewish ethnicity is accepted. If Jewishness is faith based we have a completely different paradigm.

As for my language skills, thank you. I speak English, German, Spanish, Italian, French and some Japanese and Greek. I read and write Latin too, but no one actually speaks it anymore. These languages are essential in reading western philosophy in the languages they were written in so as to get an unfiltered meaning.

[SJackson]

As for my language skills, thank you. I speak English, German, Spanish, Italian, French and some Japanese and Greek. I read and write Latin too, but no one actually speaks it anymore. These languages are essential in reading western philosophy in the languages they were written in so as to get an unfiltered meaning. Thanks for explaining, I thought you might be playing the Jew=Nazi card, but I note we have nothing to talk about anymore, in any language.

[Cachelot]

If Jewishness is faith based we have a completely different paradigm.

Actually, Jewishness is both faith-based and bloodline-based. If your mother is a Jew, you are a Jew. If you're not a Jew, you can convert to Judaism and become a Jew.

I speak English, German, Spanish, Italian, French and some Japanese and Greek. I read and write Latin too, but no one actually speaks it anymore.

Thank you for this morsel of information. I'll now be able to make some informed guesses as to who you are on Polinco :)).

[jackbill]

Actually many Russian mobsters CLAIM to be Jewish, but aren't.

Source? Statistics? Source?

[SJackson]

Must be a dozen or so times a day FR posters discuss "What's a Jew"?

Maybe we should suggest some kind of info in the Help & Guidelines area. It could come after Basic HTML.

Seems to be a source of confusion, particularly for people who know everything there is to know about Jews.

Maybe I'll suggest it.

[LarryLied]

Related Free Republic posts:

Ecstasy Kingpin And 7 Family Members Busted In Brooklyn
(New York Post)

Sammy Bull' Trial Lifts Veil On Israelis in Ecstasy Trade
( The Forward)

Ecstasy pill ring leader pleads guilty
(Washington Times)

[SJackson]

…The Organisatsiya was born in the 70s and 80s, when the Soviet Union opened its gates to emigration, particularly of Jews. "Many Russian gangsters came to New York as Jewish refugees," explains an Israeli police source. About a third, sources say, were actually Jews. Many others - among them Armenians, ethnic Russians, Tatars and Kazakhs - created Jewish covers to get out of the U.S.S.R. "They'd `convert' the day before the flight."… Mobsters' Paradise BTW, they’re a major problem for Israel, who believe it or not is relatively unequipped to deal with organized crime, along with America and the rest of the world.