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Got a TiVo? "Digital Video Recorders Give Advertisers Pause"
New York Times ^ | May 23, 2002 | AMY HARMON

Posted on 05/23/2002 3:59:46 AM PDT by The Raven

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To: Dimensio
Here's what it is coming to: Sitcoms will no longer "break" for commercials -- they will give little mini "infomercials" lasting several seconds, many times throughtout, so the people will not switch.

"Brad, darling, please pass me the Parkay Margarine that is 100% free in fatty turboacids."

41 posted on 05/23/2002 6:36:19 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch
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To: Dimensio
Here's what it is coming to: Sitcoms will no longer "break" for commercials -- they will give little mini "infomercials" lasting several seconds, many times throughtout, so the people will not switch.

"Brad, darling, please pass me the Parkay Margarine that is 100% free in fatty turboacids."

42 posted on 05/23/2002 6:36:20 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch
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To: The Raven
. Some even come close to accusing habitual ad skippers of theft.

If skipping the commercials is theft, promising us entertainment in exchange for watching them is fraud.

43 posted on 05/23/2002 6:41:29 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: The Raven
Tivo is great! You have to experience it to appreciate the difference between it and an VCR. I've not use a VCR in years.

I bought a 30 hour Tivo and added another drive to give me about 120 hours of time. But you can determine the quality of the recording. My 120 hours is for lowest quality, I only have about 40 hours of best quality, but that is definately enough for me.

Tivo puts you in control of what you watch.

44 posted on 05/23/2002 6:49:25 AM PDT by tje
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To: Skooz
You have to use it to know. But once you cross over, you never go back.

You can digitally fast forward a whole show and see what you think. You get a whole new perspective on how shows are put together.

And if you like how to shows, you can save them and re-run at will. Yes you can use tape, but it is not indexed, and has no name/description while in the recorder. The indexing alone makes them worth the money. The time shifting and ease of finding what you recorded makes it a slam dunk. Pausing and re-winding live TV is really useful.

And best of all it pus you back in charge of what you watch when.

I now have 4 DTV-Tivos. Bet Rush has 55. I paid $100 each.

tarpon

45 posted on 05/23/2002 6:52:11 AM PDT by snooker
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To: american_ranger
>>How big a hard drive is needed for say 30 hours of recording?

40 gb

46 posted on 05/23/2002 6:53:37 AM PDT by snooker
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To: Skooz
"Aside from the obvious savings of the cost of tapes, why would one of these boxes be any better?"

It's incomparably better. For one thing, the TiVo lets you watch one show while recording another; you can even record two shows at the same time while watching one from the hard drive. So it's really more like two or three VCRs, not just one. But it also lets you pause, rewind and fast-forward a show while recording that very same show, something VCRs can't do no matter how many of them you have.

Here, for example, is how I watch football (which is the only Big Four network programming I watch). I have NFL Sunday Ticket, so I get about 13 games to choose from. I'll pick the two most promising ones and tune the TiVo to them. Whenever a commercial break comes up on one of them, I hit pause and flip to the other game. When that game hits a break, I pause it and flip back to the first. I never see any commercials, and I never have to sit through the sports droids' chatter during injury time-outs and official review. Plus, I have my own instant replay, so I can rewind to see great plays that the broadcast crew doesn't consider interesting.

They can have my TiVo when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. If they think it's stealing, then they can do what NFL and HBO do and charge me a subscription. But they're not going to do that, of course, because then they'd find out just how many people don't watch their sludge.

47 posted on 05/23/2002 7:13:07 AM PDT by Fabozz
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To: snooker
"You can digitally fast forward a whole show and see what you think."

Yeah, that reminds me of another trick: Turn on closed-captioning and go into the first fast-forward mode. You watch the show 2-3x faster, but the subtitles still appear, barely slow enough to read. I love watching documentaries that way—it feels sorta like the brain-dump machine from The Matrix. :-)

48 posted on 05/23/2002 7:16:36 AM PDT by Fabozz
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To: JoeGar
I have dish network and a PVR 501. I don't have to pay a monthly service fee for the online channel guide.
49 posted on 05/23/2002 7:29:53 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Technically speaking, isn't it true that the TiVo pricture quality is a lot lower than that of the original broadcast?

No.

---max

50 posted on 05/23/2002 8:11:36 AM PDT by max61
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
No the image is not lower quality than the original (actually you can specify quality---if you want lower quality and less disk space - you can do that also)
51 posted on 05/23/2002 9:05:30 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: JoeGar
>>Does anyone sell a DVR without a TiVo-type service.

Yes...buy an ATI Wonder Board for your computer....(with TV tuner) - it comes with DVR software

52 posted on 05/23/2002 9:07:01 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
"Brad, darling, please pass me the Parkay Margarine that is 100% free in fatty turboacids."

That I would be able to handle. What will be unbearable would be the feminine hygiene product placements...

53 posted on 05/23/2002 9:31:45 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
>>I've had a Tivo for about one year. I couldn't do without it. I've watched very little "live" TV since I got my Tivo.

Yep...me, too. Now I wish it had an additional tuner. I had to rewire everything to watch hockey on one channel and let TiVo do its thing on another.

54 posted on 05/23/2002 3:20:47 PM PDT by The Raven
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To: Choco Taco
>>Next step: a TiVo that detects the screen presence of objectionable individuals (e.g., Jesse Jackson or Yasser Arafat) and skips over the time they are on the screen.

Me: "HAL !"
Hal: "Yes Master"
Me: "Don't record liberals unless they're going to jail"
Hal: "Yes, Master."

55 posted on 05/23/2002 3:25:59 PM PDT by The Raven
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To: Fabozz
Turn on closed-captioning and go into the first fast-forward mode.

I noticed that when playing with my brother's machine and was impressed that they implemented it. The TIVO unit has to buffer the captioning since it is broadcast at 30 pairs of bytes/second but can only be sent to the set at that same speed. Receipt of readable close captioning data is impossible on a VCR in fast forward mode because many byte-pairs just get dropped.

On that note, a few things I'd like to see in TIVO:


56 posted on 05/23/2002 9:42:38 PM PDT by supercat
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