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Ninth-grader slams Bush on amnesties!!
Tucson Citizen ^ | 5.21.02 | TIMOTHY J. WORKMAN

Posted on 05/28/2002 8:23:09 AM PDT by Registered

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:37:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Miss Marple
I have not re-interpreted his quote. By stating that it is impractical, he is stating that INS will not enforce the law and search for these aliens, because it is impractical. Proof of that comes form the fact that after almost 9 moths, both Ziglar and Bush have done NOTHING to secure the border. That's BS. If enforcing the law is impractical, they get rid of the law and open the borders.

He might as well fire all the law enforcement officers in the INS. If it's impractical to enforce the law, why do we need the LEO's.

What I'm getting at is; Ziglar should not go public and state that it is impractical to enforce the law. It may be time consuming, but not impractical. And yes, rounding up all the illegals is possible. It would be time consuming, but it is possible.

I agree that mass round ups will not solve the problem an should not be at the top of the list of priorities, but letting 10 million illegals simmer under the radar won't solve anything either.

The INS could easily round up 2 to 3 million illegals in one year with very little increase in manpower and expense. We know were a lot of the illegals are, but the INS is too PC to go and get them. We are restricted in how we can enforce the law. I work in the Phoenix Airport, and when I go upstairs and get a drink or stretch my legs after a flight, I have illegals come ask me questions because they know I can not arrest them. I see hundreds in the airport everyday, but I can do a thing. NO. Because the INS is to PC. I'm an Inspector and can only arrest those aliens that are entering the country on a flight that I am working. I have 30 to 40 illegals on the street corner just down from my house everyday waiting for someone to give them a job. Can I go arrest them. No I can't.

That's like telling a cop he can't arrest the bank robber if he is off duty or not on his assigned street corner.

4 things need to be done to fix the problem:

Cease all welfare for illegals.
Strictly enforce the laws on employing illegals.
Send aid to Mexico instead the Middle East and the host of other shit hole countries we send my tax dollars too.
And round up the illegals in the US.

If Mexico is turned into and economic power house like the US and Canada, and no one will hire illegals and there was no free handouts, then the flow of illegals will stop. End of story.

Now tell me, what would be Mexico's and the Worlds reaction if we sent troops into Mexico and shot at their law enforcement personnel while running drugs?

301 posted on 05/29/2002 5:05:29 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: in the Arena
The real motivation to employ cheap labor is to increase profit margin, not to keep the end cost of the goods low. The cheaper a company can produce a product the higher the profit.

Excellent point that many people don't seem to understand. Consumers don't benefit from the employment of illegal aliens. Only the companies that the illegal aliens work for benefit from the employment of illegal aliens.

302 posted on 05/29/2002 5:44:45 PM PDT by usadave
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To: usadave
It may be true that 99.99% of the illegal aliens entering the U.S. are only coming here to seek work. But Americans are concerned about the other 0.01% that have possible evil intent in mind. And with our porous borders, both north and south, we really don't know who is sneaking in. Even though I'm sure that most illegal aliens from Mexico are not in any way tied to terrorism, in order to keep any potential terrorists out, we need to close our borders to anyone who hasn't gone through the proper legal channels. I don't think that this equates to being hysterical or irrational on the part of Americans, but instead a desire on our part to make our country as safe as possible from terrorism.

Well I certainly wouldn't equate anything you've said with "being hysterical or irrational" about immigration.
You make some good points.

Unfortunately there are far to many posts on this topic that are not nearly as rational as yours.

303 posted on 05/29/2002 5:57:16 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: flamefront
Thanks for the link. I had not seen that one.
304 posted on 05/29/2002 6:46:24 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: rageaholic
"Time to get real about this war."

Actually, it's time to this war to get real.

305 posted on 05/29/2002 8:55:01 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: madfly
Thanks for the ping. I haven't been on for a couple days and I missed all the good stuff. GRRRR.
306 posted on 05/29/2002 9:27:05 PM PDT by Helix
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To: Marine Inspector
Bump to #301.
307 posted on 05/29/2002 9:47:19 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Dane
Again note the date, 1860. It shows immigrants as stupid and ignorant. It also shows that America has an undercurrent of animosity towards immigrants.

Note also the illustration. The sign, next to the Courthouse door, proclaiming "EVERYBODY COME!" and especially "NO QUESTIONS ASKED". The American citizen in the picture asks: "What weight can my vote have against this ignorance, stupidity and fraud?"

I agree - there has always been some animosity towards immigrants. The quote at the bottom of the picture does not try to conceal that. The picture also tells me that by 1860, people knew that politicians were supportive of immigrants who "cut corners".

Just a question, would America be better if these people had been kicked out. Would you be here today?

If the people who skirted the naturalization process were - and had continued to be - booted out, we might have a more cohesive nation today, with little of the cultural fragmentation that we have seen in recent years. I am not for turning away immigrants, I am just for requiring all of them to use the established *legal* methods of ingress. Otherwise, why have immigration laws at all?
In answer to the second part of your question - both sides of my family can be traced back to the 1820s in this country. My cousin is into that geneology stuff big time.

308 posted on 05/30/2002 3:54:06 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: Miss Marple
If we can't deport them now, when? When they completely take over everything? When there are more of them than us? Do you think they will vote for more benefits? How much do you have to give up before you say enough? Will it be too late then?
309 posted on 06/01/2002 11:10:36 PM PDT by Travelgirl
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