Ninth-grader slams Bush on amnesties!!

Tucson Citizen ^ | 5.21.02 | TIMOTHY J. WORKMAN

[Miss Marple]

Well, it is possible that you have an idea with the reserve. However, I also see that the Hispanic democrats would call such a group vigilantes, and then when democrats control all three branches of government the situation will be even worse.

Much as you may not like it, politics and practicality do enter into this. On the other hand, I note the SS# requirement instituted (which may be a variation of your sting operatioin) and also the arrest of people who were planning to smuggle Arabs in through Mexico. I am wondering if Bush is trying to build a case to lean on Fox with the national security reason.

Patience sometimes works, hard as it is to practice it.

[Sabertooth]

Too much common sense isn't good for ya ;-)

Well, that puts me in the clear.

[Bagehot]

The INS managed to pull together enough resources to deport Elian Gonzalez.

[CJ Wolf]

No I think we should offer conditional Amnesties. They should become full fledge citizens of the USA once they enlist for a full 5 year tour of duty in Afghanistan, which can then become our new colony settled by our new citizens.

Airlift relocation effort.

[Texas_Jarhead]

I think its time for another operation whatchamacallit. Can't remember the name but in took place in the 50's when there was a huge round up and expulsion of illegals. The gubment had them runnin for the border. I hadn't ever heard about such a thing until I saw it on the History channel. Anyone familiar with this operation I am referring to?

[Tennessee_Bob]

What are you going to do, go door to door in LA rounding them all up and forcibly putting them on trucks? Good idea, Registered! What about their belongings? What about the sick and frail? Children?

A man breaks into your house in the dead of night - crosses over your property line, opens a window, and climbs inside. He's there to support his family - his sick and ailing mother, his wife, and his two kids. All he wants is the money you have on the dresser, and the groceries in your fridge. What do you do now?

A man comes to your house in the light of day. He's looking for work so he can support his family - his sick and ailing mother, his wife, and his two kids. He's willing to obey the law in order to do so. What do you do now?

[Sabertooth]

Well, it is possible that you have an idea with the reserve. However, I also see that the Hispanic democrats would call such a group vigilantes...

Thanks for being open to the idea.

I think it would be tough to call us vigilantes... we'd be trained, deputized, and wearing some sort of uniform.

[Registered]

I also see that the Hispanic democrats would call such a group vigilantes

Like I said, backbone. As mentioned, this illegal immigration problem is directly tied to the terrorists of 9-11. Doing massive deportation under the guise of a war effort seems politically safe to me. I can't believe you buckle so easily under the potential threat of any backlash that DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COUNTRY would involve.

[Poohbah]

This problem is not going to be solved solely with the stick--you're going to have to provide some sort of carrot, or you're going to need so many bodies to implement the stick that we'll NEED more immigrants to support those now-government-employed bodies.

[Registered]

The new U.S. position on Immigration: Strike the word "illegal" and everything's cool.

[Sabertooth]

As mentioned, this illegal immigration problem is directly tied to the terrorists of 9-11. Doing massive deportation under the guise of a war effort seems politically safe to me. I can't believe you buckle so easily under the potential threat of any backlash that DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COUNTRY would involve.

Aren't you forgetting the "political risks" of doing something overwhelmingly favored by only 70% of the country?

[newcats]

Why is it a ninth grader can figure it out, but not the President?

Oh that is too easy to pass up...
Perhaps that 9th grader has more common sense than you know who?

[Amerigomag]

It ISN'T practical to round up and deport all the illegal aliens

You're right. That's why a much simpler proposal was passed by the voters of California.

This simple proposal denied the public infrastucture (the free ride at the taxpayers expense) to illegals. Without these services it was predicted that illegal entry would be attractive only to working age males who would return home when the harvest season was over. The additional benefit was that even if they stayed they would not gut the public infrastruture.

The legislation was neutered by the 9th Circuit so today California has a giant mess and it's getting worse geometrically.

[Sabertooth]

The new U.S. position on Immigration: Strike the word "illegal" and everything's cool.

"New?"

Hey, how about this for a GOP slogan:

The Rule of Law... We Pretend Louder!

[gabby hayes]

And call those who follow the rules and wait patiently in line, call them utter fools.

[nanny]

We will never catch all the murderers, or child molester, or child abusers, or robbers, or ------------. Should we just stop trying?

We could close the borders, we have done it before. A lot of people do not realize we did once have a, more or less, closed border.

You eat an elephant one bite at a time and we need to start seriously working on that elephant.

Actually, starting the process and making it very public would act as a big deterrent.

Fining the greedy employers, from those to hire them to cut the grass to the ones who hire them on constructions, agribusiness, or in the banks. It can be done.

This country did not get where it is today by saying it can't be done. We just did it! And this is very doable.

According to articles I have read, this is the largest migration of people in recent history.

No it is feasible, we just must have leadership and people with the courage (like a 9th grader) to support it.

[gunshy]

We are talking about invaders, not friends. These people have thumbed their noses at our laws. If it is okay for them to roam the streets, why don't we empty all our jails and prisons and release all lawbreakers.

You may wish to hide your eyes to the fact that we are losing our country because of this invasion but many of us do not. Eventually, we will be fighting these very same illegals for physical control of our country and at that time, we will not be deporting them, we will be killing them. I would rather deport them now.

[newcats]

vigilantes:
a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily
we'd be trained, deputized, and wearing some sort of uniform.

I don't see where the definition doesn't say you can't be trained, deputized etc.

[caddie]

IMHO, it is practical and easy to do.

If you think otherwise, then go to another country, like, say, Canada, and try to get a job.

Or try to go to France or England and get a job.

It's absolutely impossible to go to another country, from the US, and earn a living, unless that country expressly desires you to stay, and earn a living, as an immigrant worker.

After 9/11, as I recall, there was a short time when the borders were sealed.

Huge traffic jams at the Mexican and Canadian borders.

So give me a break.

You wouldn't have to have any abuse of the illegals, just a hearing, then, they are gone, or, they go to jail.

If you don't have a border, and you don't control immigration, then, you don't have a country.

Just because W is too chicken to stand up and control the borders, does not mean that it can't be done-- it's just a weak rationalization.

Heck, if he can't justify tightening up immigration and our borders NOW, after 9/11, then, when will anyone?

[RickyJ]

It ISN'T practical to round up and deport all the illegal aliens. We don't have enough manpower or money to do it. I am not in shock...that seems to me to be an obvious statement of fact.

We have more than enough man power and money to kick illegal aliens out and make sure they NEVER return!