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Seduction or Genetics?
28 May 2002 | Carl Pearlston

Posted on 05/30/2002 1:04:32 AM PDT by Carl Pearlston

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1 posted on 05/30/2002 1:04:32 AM PDT by Carl Pearlston
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Bell? He's the one that described homosexual sex as even a child witnesses a homosexual act. His weird conclusions have been used to the APA to misrepresent adoption before the courts as regards homosexuality.
2 posted on 05/30/2002 4:30:28 AM PDT by UbIwerks
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3 posted on 05/30/2002 5:47:05 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Carl Pearlston;edreform;kevin curry;argee;ronf;tdadams
The former are properly called pedophiles, while the latter should be termed ephebophiles, even though in popular parlance the term pedophilia is used to cover all age groups. The distinction is important, because pedophilia is deemed an incurable mental illness---a sick condition having nothing to do with one’s sexual orientation---whereas same-sex ephebophilia is seen as normative by a part of the homosexual community.

I disagree, the distinction is not important unless the abuser is seeking therapy. To redefine pedophilia into say age 7 and under and include 8-13 year olds into ephebophilia is ludicrous. The typical ages for child sexual abuse are between 8 and 13 and it’s children these ages homosexuals seek to enlighten. Homosexuality and Pedophilia are related paraphilias in that they are typically caused by their own childhood sexual abuse and often mutually relate to each other. Homosexuality is still and has always been a pathology, regardless of what the APA says.

4 posted on 05/30/2002 6:32:17 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Carl Pearlston
The former are properly called pedophiles, while the latter should be termed ephebophiles, even though in popular parlance the term pedophilia is used to cover all age groups. The distinction is important, because pedophilia is deemed an incurable mental illness---a sick condition having nothing to do with one’s sexual orientation---whereas same-sex ephebophilia is seen as normative by a part of the homosexual community.

This statement is way behind the times. According to DSM-IV, "[r]ecurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger)" is not considered a mental problem at all unless "[t]he fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational or other important areas of functioning."

In short, a happy pedophile is a mentally healthy pedophile.

Pedophilia is well on its way to being accepted and normalized courtesy of the same people who championed the acceptance and normalization of homosexuality.

5 posted on 05/30/2002 6:47:08 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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Its my opinon that most children are born with normal sexual orientations and a certain percentage of fewer children are born with homosexual orientations.

However, my studies of ancient history lead me to the conclusion that there is also an environmental element in homosexuality. Homosexuality was rampant in Classical Greece, and also in Imperial Rome. Homosexuality was not rampanent in Republican Rome, nor during the later Christian phase of the Empire. Homosexuality was not rampant in Byzantine Greece.

All of this leads me to conlude that if the small percentage of individuals who are born with abnormal sexual orientations succeed in gaining social approbation for their deviant sexual practises, other individuals, not so genetically defective, will become habituate to this deviant perversion.

6 posted on 05/30/2002 7:00:00 AM PDT by ZULU
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a ten-year old Boy Scout whose counselor would sit by the bed and stroke the boy’s penis through the blanket

There is no such thing as a 10-year old Boy Scout. 10-year olds are Cub Scouts, and they don't sleep in beds around adults. Neither do Boy Scouts, for that matter. They use sleeping bags, which are a lot thicker than a blanket. Cub Scouts have to have a parent with them to go camping.

It's my general suspicion that when someone is wrong about facts I can verify, they are probably wrong about facts I can't verify.

7 posted on 05/30/2002 7:02:29 AM PDT by RonF
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There is no such thing as a 10-year old Boy Scout.

Umm…except for Arrow of Light and fifth grade graduates. We have 10 year olds in our troop right now.

10-year olds are Cub Scouts, and they don't sleep in beds around adults.

He didn’t say he was “sleeping” in the same bed.

9 posted on 05/30/2002 7:30:19 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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10 posted on 05/30/2002 7:33:21 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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11 posted on 06/02/2002 8:11:19 AM PDT by EdReform
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we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children’s sexuality...we must do it for the children’s sake."

A gem of left-wing doublespeak. "We must encourage this perversion among children. For the sake of the children."

Good is Bad. Up is Down. Slavery is Freedom. Arbeit Macht Frei.

12 posted on 06/02/2002 8:31:23 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: RonF
It's my general suspicion that when someone is wrong about facts I can verify, they are probably wrong about facts I can't verify.

It is my general suspicion that when you make antagonistic criticisms without a firm factual foundation, those criticisms are probably unfair and will probably make you enemies.

13 posted on 06/02/2002 8:35:51 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Carl Pearlston
"Born, not made" is the over-riding fallacy supporting the homosexual myths these days, but it is easily refuted: If there really is a "gay gene" out there somewhere which pre-determines and pre-destines a homosexual, then there would be no homosexuals; they do not reproduce due to their sexual proclivity.

Knowing this, homosexuals are constantly recruiting - even to the point of molestation - and their agenda is focused on obtaining access to positions of authority over children young enough to have no firm sexual identity. Cheers to the Boy Scouts for having the moral courage to keep these predators out; the Catholic Church needs to re-gain such moral authority.

Of utmost importance is the rejection of defining the homosexual as inately homosexual (born that way), but rather by what he does (chooses to sodomize, and recruits others to that lifestyle).

14 posted on 06/02/2002 9:00:12 AM PDT by bimbo
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In short, a happy pedophile is a mentally healthy pedophile.

... only in very fruity communities.

15 posted on 06/02/2002 9:07:42 AM PDT by bimbo
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16 posted on 06/02/2002 9:21:53 AM PDT by EdReform
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17 posted on 06/02/2002 9:26:25 AM PDT by EdReform
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Thanks for the ping, bump.
18 posted on 06/02/2002 10:07:43 AM PDT by scripter
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To: bimbo
"Born, not made" is the over-riding fallacy supporting the homosexual myths these days, but it is easily refuted: If there really is a "gay gene" out there somewhere which pre-determines and pre-destines a homosexual, then there would be no homosexuals; they do not reproduce due to their sexual proclivity.

Well, first, heritance of something as complex a phenomena as sexual orientation very likely doesn't depend on a single gene. Many characteristics depend on multiple genes, and it is possible to inherit gradations of a characteristic between extremes. Secondly, there seem to be a number of homosexual couples, especially lesbian couples, that are having kids where one of the members of the couple is homosexual.

None of which is intended to be an argument that homosexuality is inherited; but more to point out that interaction between the chromosomes of two people can, through inheritance of recombinations of groups of genes, cause the descendent of the two genetic sets to have a combined character closer to one extreme or the other than either parent. Thus, your statement neither proves nor disproves "born, not made." Frankly, I don't think the proponents of that statement have proven their case either, but that's another story.

Example, with a very simple gene set. There are multiple genes that control eye color. The gene allele for blue eyes is recessive. Thus, if you have one gene for blue eyes, and one gene for brown eyes, you'll have brown eyes. Yet, if two such brown-eyed people marry and have a child, each can pass their child a blue-eyed gene, and their child will have blue eyes. Take a characteristic that can depend on 5 or 6 genes, and you can see the possiblities.

It would be quite interesting to track the children, both (half-)natural and adopted, and see what their sexual orientations were. I have heard proponents of allowing homosexual couples to adopt children state that such children are no more likely to end up homosexual than the general population is. They offer this as an argument that people who fear that contact between young children and homosexuals would tend to influence such children to adopt a homosexual lifestyle. However, if their perception is true, you'd think that it would also argue against homosexuality being a purely inherited characteristic.

19 posted on 06/02/2002 10:27:17 AM PDT by RonF
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"In short, a happy pedophile is a mentally healthy pedophile . . ." [only in very fruity communities.]

The studies seeking to normalize pedophilia have been authored by academicians at some of the nation's best known universities, such as Cornell. The drive to normalize homosexuality also began at our "great" universities, albeit 30 years or so ago.

And now Pete Singer, who holds an endowed chair in ethics at Princeton University, has authored a book arguing that society ought to be more tolerant in its attitudes about bestiality.

Gay-rights activists opened the gate to allow these other perversions to walk in freely behind them.

20 posted on 06/02/2002 3:07:10 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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