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No worries for illegal residents - INS chief: It's not 'reasonable' to enforce law
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| June 3, 2002
| Joseph D'Agostino
Posted on 06/03/2002 1:18:42 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: kcvl
Also, here are the email address for the 2 reps. noted in the article:
president@whitehouse.gov, vice-president@whitehouse.gov, sensen09@mail.house.gov, askgeorge@mail.house.gov, webmail@brownback.senate.gov
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posted on
06/03/2002 3:37:29 AM PDT
by
Elkiejg
To: agitator
"No one likes the idea that people came into the country illegally, but it's not practical or reasonable to think that you're going to be able to round them all up and send them home," Ziglar said at a May 23 press conference that he held with Javier MoctezumaYeah, that's a pretty awful statement. You don't "round them all up", you simply send home the ones that are discovered, without worrying about whether it's just a few, most of them, or all of them. INS needs to develop a new attitude. And part of it has to be to fine employers, severely, for knowingly hiring illegals.
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posted on
06/03/2002 3:45:41 AM PDT
by
grania
To: glc1173@aol.com; summer
Just fyi, Janet Reno doesn't have a snowball's chance in HE** of winning.
Even the Florida DIMocRATS don't believe she does.......
To: Brownie74
Why do you think Bush put an open border Libertarian in that position in the first place? Unfortunately Ziglar is untouchable. This Ziglar guy definitely needs to go.
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posted on
06/03/2002 6:30:10 AM PDT
by
toddst
To: Brownie74; MeeknMing
Thanks for the pings. Lots of interesting info on this thread...
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posted on
06/03/2002 6:59:38 AM PDT
by
summer
To: toddst
This Ziglar guy definitely needs to go.This bumbling fool Ziglar is simply a 'yes man' for the boss. The boss calls the shots. No matter who is running the INS, nothing will change until thinking at the top changes. The boss is the one who needs to go.
To: sarcasm
Ziglar, FBI, CIA and 9-11- "Nothing could have been done. Nothing is being done. Nothing will be done."
To: glc1173@aol.com
it's only "reasonable" to actually force people in the U.S. to obey the law if they are native-born Americans with tax liens or have endangered species found on their ranches! People in America are only forced to obey federal law if they are U.S. citizens.
The Constitution gives the power to protect the borders, NOT any power to enforce the federal law inside the individual states ( UNLESS those people are U.S. citizens). Citizenship confers jurisdiction.
I believe the people residing within the individual states were never intended by our founding fathers to be citizens of the U.S., but American Nationals.
In reading the Federalist Papers, there are several references such as Citizens and Men, Citizens and persons, etc..
If citizens were the same as residents of the states, why would they make that differentiation in the first place?
and I won't even go into the power of Congress to 'annex' Texas! :)
To: Dialup Llama
If the BATF was run like the INS, you could keep howitzers in your backyard and fire them any time you felt like it.If the INS was run like the BATF, every illegal alien in the USA would be arrested, deported or shot in one month.
(I just want a list of which laws "really count" and which laws I can ignore.)
To: Brownie74
Agreed.
Comment #31 Removed by Moderator
To: sarcasm
An INS spokesman said that Ziglar merely repeated what other INS commissioners, including Clinton Commissioner Doris Meissner, have said in recent years. Yes, Doris the former commissioner left the INS and returned to the Carnegie Endowment for Peace. Her Deputy departed and is now leading the United Nations High Commission for refugees.
Anyone see a pattern here? Even if Ziglar wanted to deport all these illegal aliens (which he doesn't) the administration and congress would not let him do it. Call it collusion or triangulation, the system is working exactly as it was designed. Our immigration system is no accident, it is carefully crafted to give only the appearance of enforcement. Now that everyone can see it as a farce, they want to just do away with the concept of enforcement altogether.
Check and mate. Start taking pictures so your grandkids can see a once great nation.
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posted on
06/03/2002 7:53:09 AM PDT
by
usurper
To: Lion Den Dan
Bounty Hunters Wanted. $1000 per illegal. By the end of 2002, we'd be 7M people lighter. Sure, a one-time hit of $7B, but think of the yearly savings after that.
To: brat
Baloney! Add up the hidden costs in education, food stamps, welfare assistance, hospitalization and it would be much cheaper to hire AMERICANS to get the job done! You got that right. Theses aren't PHD's or Doctors and Business majors crossing the boarder to get here. They are Mexicans poorest, uneducated. Now they want water stations and beacons to help them cross the hot dessert.
They bust our boarders, break our laws and then say, we owe them something.
To: Sabertooth
George Bush is just another 'Say Anything', to get elected, despicable, shameless, pandering politician.
We should start a 'Day #, Sellout of America' thread.
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posted on
06/03/2002 8:21:07 AM PDT
by
4Freedom
To: sarcasm
Barragan said at the press conference, "The mobility of people has been a reality throughout human history. Only by recognizing that reality, through agreements, through laws, can we avoid what is happening." Ziglar said that he wanted to make policing the border more efficient to free up resources to focus on the most serious threats to the United States.
"We need to set up a regime where we don't have to spend so much of our time and effort in enforcement activities dealing with people who are not terrorists, who are not threats to our national security, who are economic refugees," he said.
Bull Sh!T!!!!
All they are saying is that property owners can be displaced by immigration and the government subsidising through welfare this immigration. Human rights engineering is now displacing the property owner as a benefactor to the economy and welfare of the nation.
Mark my word, this is communist bull and it is unacceptable.
To: 4Freedom , Sabertooth
As per my post 36, I am wondering why Bush is putting up with communism and migration lead revolutions in America. It is unconsciounable how his compasssionate conservatism ends up being compassion for all sectors of society, rich and poor, all living under socialist engineering of compassion. It is unacceptable. Jurisdictional balance is not maintained by localities, but this government octopus.
To: lavaroise; Sabertooth
I'll take a guess. The government of Mexico can reward Bush's family and friends with big, fat oil contracts?
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posted on
06/03/2002 8:50:00 AM PDT
by
4Freedom
To: Travis McGee
A list of the federal laws you can ignore? If you're an ILLEGAL ALIEN, all of them. If you're a non-hyphenated American, none of them.
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posted on
06/03/2002 8:57:21 AM PDT
by
4Freedom
To: sarcasm
Ziglar also announced the use of pepperball launchers by Border Patrol agents. The weapons are supposed to disable violent migrants without hurting them, he said. That's about as effective as spraying insect repellent onto a fire ant mound.
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posted on
06/03/2002 9:05:47 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
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