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1 posted on 06/06/2002 2:40:06 PM PDT by moonman
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Congradulations on your conversion. Some of this "socialism" stuff isn't half bad. Some of it is horrible. Maybe next you can get a minimum wage job and try to survive on it. Heck, you might even end up joining a union. Power to the people! parsy the progressive conservative.
34 posted on 06/06/2002 3:37:26 PM PDT by parsifal
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Qualifying for Medicare or Medicaid: An Overview

An individual who becomes disabled is confronted with a host of problems beyond the physical limitations of the disability itself, not the least of which is the inability to earn a living. Because s/he is not able to work, a disabled individual must find not only another source of income, but also some form of health care coverage to pay for much-needed medical care.

Fortunately, the federal Social Security Act allows a disabled individual to receive both a monthly income benefit and health care coverage under Medicare and/or Medicaid.

A Few Basics. As we told you in the fall issue of Social Security Disability Update, the Social Security Administration (SSA) administers two income benefit programs for disabled individuals, Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI). The two programs use the same medical criteria to evaluate whether a person is disabled. However, different standards apply in determining whether a disabled person is eligible for SSDI or SSI (or both) and in calculating benefits under each program.

For SSDI, a disabled applicant's eligibility for the program and calculation of the monthly income benefit are based upon the applicant's prior participation in the Social Security system (i.e., working and paying Social Security taxes). Eligibility and benefit calculation for SSI, on the other hand, are based upon financial need.

A disabled person who is found eligible for either of the two main Social Security disability benefit programs will also be eligible for federal health benefits. Specifically, a disabled person found eligible to receive SSDI will automatically qualify for Medicare after s/he has received SSDI payments for two years. A disabled person found eligible to receive SSI payments will qualify for Medicaid.

More about Medicare. As you may know, Medicare has two parts - Part A, which provides hospital insurance coverage (including inpatient care and certain follow-up services), and Part B, which provides supplemental coverage for certain other medical expenses (such as physician services and certain other medical services not covered under Part A).

Eligibility. Once a disabled person has been receiving SSDI benefits for a period of 24 months, s/he will automatically qualify for both Part A and Part B of Medicare.

Cost. Coverage under Part A is free to SSDI recipients, while coverage under Part B requires payment of a small monthly premium (currently, $42.50), which is deducted from the recipient's Social Security check. Because Part B requires payment of a premium, an SSDI recipient may choose to retain Part A coverage but decline Part B coverage. However, if the recipient has a low income and few resources, s/he may be eligible to apply for state assistance in paying the Medicare Part B premium (and, in some cases, paying any out-of-pocket expenses, such as deductibles and coinsurance payments).

Enrollment. Shortly before an SSDI recipient becomes eligible for Medicare, SSA will contact the recipient and provide information that the recipient will need to enroll in Medicare. While SSA handles Medicare enrollment, another federal agency, the Health Care Financing Administration (HCFA), is responsible for administering the program. Among other things, HCFA sets the standards that health care providers must meet in order to receive payment for any Medicare-covered services that they provide. HCFA is also responsible for processing provider claims for payment. An appeal process is available for providers whose claims are denied or who are not satisfied with the amount they have been paid.

Services. While Medicare provides basic health care protection, it does not cover all medical expenses. For example, Part A does not cover long-term or custodial care or personal convenience services (such as televisions, telephones, private duty nurses or the extra cost of private rooms when not medically necessary). And Part B generally does not cover routine doctor visits (with the exception of pap smear tests and mammograms in certain instances), preventive care, or prescription drugs.

More about Medicaid. The Medicaid program is a joint effort between the federal government and the states to provide health insurance coverage for certain low-income individuals. Although each state is permitted to establish its own rules for determining who is eligible for coverage and the nature of the services that will be covered, the state's rules must fall within broad federal guidelines in order for the state to qualify for federal funding.

Eligibility. Unlike Medicare eligibility, which is based upon an individual's prior contribution to the Social Security system (through Social Security payroll taxes), Medicaid eligibility is based solely on financial need. Each state has some discretion in determining which individuals their Medicaid program will cover. However, to be eligible for federal funds, the states must provide coverage for certain groups, including disabled individuals who qualify to receive SSI payments (although, in some states, the eligibility requirements for Medicaid are more restrictive than the criteria for SSI).

Cost. Coverage under Medicaid is free to eligible recipients.

Enrollment. In most states, enrollment in Medicaid is automatic for SSI recipients. However, in some states, SSI recipients must apply for Medicaid benefits through a state agency.

Services. In order to receive federal funding, each state Medicaid program must provide certain basic services. Examples of mandatory services include inpatient and outpatient hospital care, rural health clinic services, laboratory and X-ray services, physician services, and, in some cases, home health care. States may place appropriate limits on a service based upon criteria such as medical necessity or utilization control.

35 posted on 06/06/2002 3:39:47 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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In determining whether or not you are disabled under Social Security's rules, the Social Security Administration considers five questions.

  1. Are you working? If you are and your earnings average more than $500 per month, you cannot generally be considered disabled.

  2. Is your condition so severe that it interferes with basic work related activities?

  3. Is your condition found on the Social Security Administration's list of "disabling impairments?" If so, you are automatically considered disabled. If not, Social Security compares your disability to those on the list to determine if it is of equal severity to a listed condition. If it is, then your claim is approved; if not, the process goes on to the next question.

  4. Can you continue to do the work you did during the last 15 years? If the answer is yes, your claim is rejected. If the answer is no, the evaluation process goes on to ask the final question.

  5. Can you do any other type of work, when your age, education, past work experience and transferable work skills are taken into account? If you can, no benefits are awarded. But if you can't, you will be entitled to receive disability payments


37 posted on 06/06/2002 3:41:29 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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The US healthcare system is outstanding for those who can afford it. However, for more and more Americans, it has become an unmittigated disaster. It is a system of incredible greed, with gross fraud at all levels. Those who have health coverage carefully look the other way while more and more Americans are being financially destroyed. Ah well, let's turn to more important issues like gays in the military, $300 tax cuts, civil rights for John Walker Lindh.....
51 posted on 06/06/2002 4:20:17 PM PDT by ghostrider
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bump
54 posted on 06/06/2002 4:27:56 PM PDT by VOA
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It aint gonna make you feel any better, but I know people who have gotten an automatic discount (like 50%) from their doctor upon hearing that they were going to pay in cash.

It seems that part of the inflated cost of health care is associated with bilking insurance companies and as a result drives up all of our premiums.

I do feel for you though and I will pray for you.

:(

55 posted on 06/06/2002 4:30:40 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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The Economy is being shook down.
57 posted on 06/06/2002 4:46:06 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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There are many of us finding out about the real world of health costs. I retired a couple of years ago and was allowed to keep my health insurance BUT the premiums keep rising. Now it's $663 a month with over 2000 a year in pharmacy copays. Health insurance is a requirement for anyone with assets since one major surgery cost me (my HMO) 41000 a few years ago so I can't complain about but it still is a hardship. I wish I knew the answer.
66 posted on 06/06/2002 7:36:39 PM PDT by zip
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Everyone is complaining about the symptoms and not the problem. As long as the American Medical Association can maintain its monopoly power by limiting the number of total doctors available, doctors will continue to be able to work four day weeks and make $400,000 per year. This is the real villain.
71 posted on 06/06/2002 9:21:21 PM PDT by Colombia59
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Just think the people getting SSI receive 100% Medicare and Medicaid and many if not most never paid dime into the Social Security Fund. A girl I know works as a hairdresser, is divorced, and has two children. This year she applied for the Earned Income Credit on her tax form. She got back $3000. Her sister watched the kids and she took a cruise. I had to pay an extra $3000.
72 posted on 06/06/2002 11:38:28 PM PDT by castlebar lass
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Just think the people getting SSI receive 100% Medicare and Medicaid and many if not most never paid dime into the Social Security Fund. A girl I know works as a hairdresser, is divorced, and has two children. This year she applied for the Earned Income Credit on her tax form. She got back $3000. Her sister watched the kids and she took a cruise. I had to pay an extra $3000.
73 posted on 06/06/2002 11:39:04 PM PDT by castlebar lass
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The thinking is that if more "bill of rights" half measures are passed, insurers will raise their rates, more employers will either decrease their coverage or drop it all together, and more people will be uninsured. Result: more Democrats and other pinheads wailing for nationalized health care.
85 posted on 06/09/2002 6:24:33 PM PDT by dr_who
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I feel your pain! I am self-employeed and in the last 3 years, my premium has more than doubled while at the same time benefits have been drastically cut. Somehow medical insurance premiums and other medical costs have been kept out of the Consumer Price Index computation, making it look as if we've had little inflation. Typical government lying!
86 posted on 06/09/2002 10:01:13 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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Have you spoken with the Consumer help line for the Florida Division of Insurance for suggestions? 1-800-342-2762
93 posted on 06/10/2002 9:15:20 AM PDT by KC Burke
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AFTER the bastards take 50% of everything you earn, then tax your property, tax your purchases, increases prices with further taxation and regulation, and provide dozens of disincentives to succeed or save... THEN you basically pay a second mortgage payment just in case you possibly need care sometime in the future. (If you are fortunate and never need care, well my friend, you get nothing in return. Thanks for sending those checks.)

The Land of the Free is dying.

104 posted on 06/11/2002 8:20:19 AM PDT by Teacher317
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