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San Francisco Bay Terror Fears
The Examiner ^ | 6/16/2002 | Richard Byrne Reilly

Posted on 06/16/2002 9:32:12 AM PDT by ex-Texan

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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
The people who live in the Bay Area and regard terroism as an "East Coast thing" are completely out of their minds. I had a mini nervous breakdown when we returned here last October after some weeks away (Ireland where I saw more American flags flying than the Bay Area and Rhode Island where everyone was flying the flag.) I came back here to culture shock. I truely thought that people's mindset would have changed after 9/11...even here (Oakland...6 miles from Berkeley) I was naive enough to think people would have changed. One of my first conversations upon returning here was with a neighbor who was obviously against our retaliation in Afghanistan. She said something about "big corporations" and that she felt the way she did because she had lived in other countries. She and her partner wanted to sit down over a cup of coffee and discuss "things"....I said there was nothing to discuss. They seemed shocked that I said that. We get truely frustrated here. The fact that Barbara Lee is ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE our Congress person just makes it that much worse.
21 posted on 06/16/2002 12:37:41 PM PDT by vikingcelt
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To: ex-Texan
Now, if they can just keep the terror attack within the city limits, and NOT miss City Hall, maybe SF
can start over again and make the RIGHT decisions next time.

I know, I know, I'm bad.......

22 posted on 06/16/2002 1:28:42 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: ex-Texan
Remember the Exon-Valdeze ? Creating a huge environmental disaster is a piece of cake with an oil super tanker. Just run it into the rocks or ram it with another boat. I understand most of the newer tankers are being built with double hulls but even they have problems. The object of many Middle Easterns terrorists would be to get the U.S. out of the oil business with Saudi Arabia, Kuait, and others. Maritime attacks have already occured in the past by the terrorists. Even Sadam has tried to use oil as a weapon.
23 posted on 06/16/2002 2:26:23 PM PDT by SSN558
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To: Peach
"We need to stop handing out visas like candy and call a 2-3 year moratorium on immigration;"

You are so right.

24 posted on 06/16/2002 3:00:11 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: ex-Texan
San Francisco has a large July 4th fireworks celebration over the Bay, I believe in the area of Alcatraz.

I can also see these terrorists grabbing a boat and steering it right under a bridge, then................

25 posted on 06/16/2002 5:01:14 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: goldenstategirl
Just like the caller into Fox last Monday that said, that there of thousands of them here, waiting for the word to destroy America. He said the American people were still sleeping.

Wasn't it just last Sunday when we were told of the threat that they had the right to kill 4 million of us, with 1 million being our children. Maybe talk, but I for one don't take them lightly.

26 posted on 06/16/2002 6:49:05 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: CyberAnt
Think the dive shops in CA have been hard pressed by the Feds? You should see what they have done here in Florida! Sort of warms the heart. 'Course a scuba attack isn't the only thing such a pressurized tank is good for....those and those big industrial sized fire extinguishers would be great if pressurized with VX or GD Soman Nerve Agent....think of it, what could present a more normal, indeed more comforting appearance????
27 posted on 06/16/2002 6:52:01 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: goodnesswins
Nuke SF and Berkley? What's the down side?
28 posted on 06/16/2002 6:53:09 PM PDT by ExSoldier
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To: TexKat
TK, it seems there are two obvious possiblities:

1) All these suspicious ME guys are part of a massive coordinated psych job, videotaping, timing, photographing, etc., just to freak us all out, or;

2) All these suspicious ME guys are practicing and preparing for a massive coordinated attack on America - shipping, bridges, buildings, water supplies, dams, etc.

I'm somehow thinking the second option seems more realistic (why waste all that time and energy on the first?). We're in a war, and even in the "best" of wars, the winning side loses some battles . . . I get the horrible feeling that we may be about to lose our second battle (911 being the first, if you want to count that, since most of us didn't really know we were in a war yet). I know in my heart that we will prevail in the end, but it won't necessarily be easy or clean.

29 posted on 06/16/2002 7:14:40 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: ExSoldier
Why would the anti American ME want to terrorize their biggest allies and enablers?
30 posted on 06/16/2002 7:16:45 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: TexKat
And I guess a third possibility is that most of these suspicious ME guys are part of a massive diversion campaign to keep our law enforcement agencies off balance and spread too thin, while the real core group of terrorists goes about its preparations for attack quietly and unmolested.
31 posted on 06/16/2002 7:17:48 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: ex-Texan
When a terrorist cases your boat why do you not have a squad of cop cars or FBI agents waiting at the dock?
32 posted on 06/16/2002 8:02:31 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: ex-Texan
>The report stated in part: "While it is not an overt act of terrorism, it is not (considered) normal passenger activity."

Clue train coming through. This is a real part of terrorism which occurs before the overt act of terrorism you are supposed to be preventing.

If it looks suspicious, it probably is. Trust your instincts Luke and call the cops. Let has have no more of these tales about the one who got away.

33 posted on 06/16/2002 8:05:04 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Mr. Jeeves
>Last summer, before 9/11, I noticed quite a lot of young Arab men walking around downtown San Francsico in pairs.

It was San Francsico.

34 posted on 06/16/2002 8:27:11 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: LikeLight
>2) All these suspicious ME guys are practicing and preparing for a massive coordinated attack on America - shipping, bridges, buildings, water supplies, dams, etc.

Then they will discover the meaning of the word backlash.

35 posted on 06/16/2002 8:28:38 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: ExSoldier
Yes, I see your point.

I think the reason the feds looked so closely at San Diego was because of the same routine which happened in San Francisco. Several Middle East looking men were seen around Long Beach harbor for several days, taking tours and photographing cruise boats; and inquiring at several scuba shops for certain types of gear.

I used to think they wouldn't pick on San Diego's harbor because of the large military presence there - and the fact that our Coast Guard unit here has beefed up, but ever since these reports, I have noticed the Hamas and Hezbollah attacks have centered on military personnel.

I'm concerned again. I was planning to take my grandchild on a tour of several military places next weekend - Now I'm wondering about that wisdom. Maybe we'll just stick to the museums instead. No use in putting yourself in harms way.

36 posted on 06/16/2002 9:05:31 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: LikeLight
I tend to go with your second suggestion. Remember Atta visited the WTC right before they hit.
37 posted on 06/16/2002 9:46:23 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: LikeLight
LikeLight, did you read this article that happened at Fort Bragg - Questions, ammo land felon in jail Do a search on Fort Bragg or search my comments for the article.
38 posted on 06/16/2002 9:51:56 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: ExSoldier
"Nuke SF and Berkley? What's the down side?"

LOL........SSHHHHHH....you're saying what others are thinking....

39 posted on 06/17/2002 3:06:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins; ExSoldier
"Nuke SF and Berkley? What's the down side?" LOL........SSHHHHHH....you're saying what others are thinking....

You people make me sick... That's really funny, whish for the death's of entire US cities... Think about what you are saying before you post, There's no humor in this at all, it doesn't matter how many liberals there are. If these are your true thoughts then you should be deported as well.
40 posted on 06/25/2002 10:33:21 AM PDT by Nouge
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