Pastor Who Blessed 'Threesome' Offers To Resign

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[Elsie]

There are OTHER verses that seem to fit here, as well..........

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2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

2 Timothy 4:3
 3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

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Matthew 5:19
 19.  Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 

 

Matthew 15:9
 9.  They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.' "

 

 

Matthew 23:25
 25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.

 

Romans 2:19-24
 19.  if you are convinced that you are a guide for the blind, a light for those who are in the dark,
 20.  an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants, because you have in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth--
 21.  you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal?
 22.  You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
 23.  You who brag about the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law?
 24.  As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."

 

Romans 16:17
 17.  I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

 

1 Timothy 1:7
 7.  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

 

1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

 

2 Timothy 2:16-18
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus,
 18.  who have wandered away from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.

 

James 3:1
 1.  Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

 

2 Peter 2:1-2
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.

 

Revelation 2:14
14.  Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: You have people there who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin by eating food sacrificed to idols and by committing sexual immorality.

 

Revelation 2:20
 20.  Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.

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1 Corinthians 5
1. It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife.
2. And you are proud! Shouldn't you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this?

[parsifal]

I'm curious how he worded the blessing. Maybe?:

O Lord, Bless thou this union, and the various combinations thereof, and these thy faithful servants who are working overtime to be fruitful and multiply. Amen

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

"Pastor Who Blessed 'Threesome'" ~~ I can absolutely guarantee that he is not a Five-point Calvinist. 35 posted on 6/17/02 7:31 AM Pacific by Jerry_M

Exactly right. This one happened to have been a Roman Catholic, but he could just as easily have been an Arminian Protestant or a "free will" Baptist or a Unitarian or just about any other flavor of "American Christendom".

What's the one fact on which you can be certain when you read something like, "Pastor Who Blessed 'Threesome'"?

"Not a Five-Point Calvinist".

Calvinist Pastors sin privately --even greivously-- as often as any man, I suppose; but the public expression of Moral Heresy just won't fly in a Five-Point Calvinist congregation. You can count on it.

Non-Calvinists really do know this full well, they just hate to admit it.

[TrappedInLiberalHell]

Not wanting to start a flame war or bash anyone's religion, but can anyone tell me in a few non-inflamatory sentences, what it is that Unitarians believe?

Here's a lengthy thread I started from April of last year on that very topic: Considering the Unitarian Church -- anybody out there belong? . I haven't joined, and am not planning to anytime soon.

[r9etb]

what it is that Unitarians believe?

Wm. F. Buckley summed it up thusly: "There is at most one God..."

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

FWIW, Servetus did not "start" in Geneva. He fled there after the Roman Catholic Court of Vienne pronounced the Death Sentence upon him.

Geneva just re-tried the case, found him guilty of the same charges as had Rome, and pronounced the same sentence -- death by fire.
As it happens, one citizen named John Calvin pleaded for a more merciful form of execution, but Calvin's requests were denied.

[murdoog]

He blesses a sin because the sinners were persistent? This guy is nuts!

Call me naive, but it sounds like he was just weak-willed. (And for the record, I think anyone THAT weak-willed should not be a pastor.)

[Erasmus]

LOL.

<+>--<);^)

^funny hat

[murdoog]

Larry Lied is a Unitarian

Really? I've never met a Unitarian who wasn't left of center politically and that sure isn't the case with LL. Are you sure he's not just a small u unitarian, (i.e. someone who merely doesn't believe in the trinity, like a oneness pentecostal)?

Larry I'm pinging you so you could clear up any misconceptions either of us have.

[monkey]

Unitarians invented the concept of quorum.

The best description I've heard of a Unitarian is an atheist with children.

[LarryLied]

Classical Unitarians were Christians (heretical Christians but Christians). Not many of those left. Today the church is Unitarian/Universalist and the New Testament an afterthought if that. Channing's Unitarian Christianity, or The Baltimore Sermon and the Jefferson Bible are good examples of early Unitarian thought.

[ODDITHER]

"Schwab says he told them before the ceremony that "they were nuts," but they were persistent and he finally agreed to their request. He says he had no idea they may have been involved in playing sex games with underaged girls. "

This Pastor is the one that is nuts!!!! or he is reading another book than the good book. Can you imagine a man of the cloth that is so amoral that he allows his paritioners to dictate to him what he should do? I bet if you look deep enough into this you will find that the threesome paid a hefty amount for him to perform the service, why else would they have been able to be so persuasive?

[Campion]

Though not Catholic, I have fought attacks on your church from the immature jerks who spam every thread with their vile accusations. However, such derogatory posts do not help your cause, my friend.

I'm pretty sure Cato's not a Catholic, either.

We have enough problems of our own without being blamed for fights we didn't pick, thanks anyway.

[RnMomof7]

I can absolutely guarantee that he is not a Five-point Calvinist.

Nope not a Calvinist..I went to check..the "Pastor" is an RC Priest

Forest Grove
St. Anthony
Rev. Elwin Schwab