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Warnings Before 1995 Oklahoma Bombing
AP Online via COMTEX ^ | June 20, 2002 | JOHN SOLOMON

Posted on 06/20/2002 12:04:19 AM PDT by grimalkin

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To: Dog; hchutch; Shermy; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; seamole; blackie
It all boils down as usual to the Clintoon and his criminal in charge of No Justice, Jake Reno.

So what did the Clintoon, the Hildebeast and Jake Reno know before the OKC bombing? Why didn't they stop it.

Why didn't the NY Slimes, DC Compost, LA Slimes investigate what these Rats in Power knew before the OKC bombing and mass murder of so many innocents?

Will we find the traces/trails of Opecker Petro $'s on their hands to stall or hide justice?

41 posted on 06/20/2002 7:47:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: browardchad
If this is accurate, it means that U.S. intelligence had far better and detailed info on Islamic threats in the mid-90's than it did in 2001

In the early to mid '90s Steve Emerson warned that Oklahoma City was a hotbed of radical islamic activity. In his book he recounts a story of when he was in Oklahoma City in '92 and walked into the convention center and observed a gathering of the Muslim Arab Youth Association. There were all types of books (even coloring books) preaching Jihad and calling for the extermination of Jews and Christians, and books on how to kill infidels

42 posted on 06/20/2002 7:50:59 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: grimalkin
Come back please.....Carol Howe!
43 posted on 06/20/2002 8:03:03 AM PDT by ChasingFletch
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44 posted on 06/20/2002 8:13:28 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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45 posted on 06/20/2002 8:14:05 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
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46 posted on 06/20/2002 8:25:15 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: hchutch
There is a school of thought in the Middle East that sees the enemy of one's enemy as a friend (even if only on a temporary basis).

I would not put it past Iran and company to sponsor all manner of nogoodniks here in America--and for those nogoodniks to accept foreign money.

47 posted on 06/20/2002 8:37:20 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: wtc911
She's only baiting us

And she is, if nothing else, a master baiter.

48 posted on 06/20/2002 8:38:46 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: knighthawk
Thank you very much for the ping.
49 posted on 06/20/2002 8:49:05 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: grimalkin
"What did President Clinton know and when did he know it?"

"My constituents are now asking these questions!"

50 posted on 06/20/2002 8:55:27 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Grampa Dave
We will probably never be allowed to actually see the evidence of what the Clinton administration knew and when they knew it as releasing that info would lead to a break down in civil order.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

51 posted on 06/20/2002 9:30:07 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: harpseal
You are right on target here: We will probably never be allowed to actually see the evidence of what the Clinton administration knew and when they knew it as releasing that info would lead to a break down in civil order.

Just like if we really new what was in the info handed to the Senate in the Impeachment fiasco, pitchforks, tar and feathers would be the least of the worries of those senators who vote not to punish the Clintoon!

I don't know if I would want to see all of it!

52 posted on 06/20/2002 9:41:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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53 posted on 06/20/2002 10:00:08 AM PDT by Free the USA
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I have written extensively about many of the items in Solomans article on FR since June 2000 plus a whole lot more about prior warning, some of which I will repeat in this reply. Soloman was fed info for his story by Mike McNulty who did the documentaries on Waco and who I personally told about the forewarnings going back to 1995. McNulty has also been in contact with Jayna Davis to get additional details which I have provided Davis regularly since 1995.

I believe Soloman's story is vastly incomplete, does not adequately reflect the extent of detailed forewarning/foreknpowledge by the FBI and USG. Soloman's story too easily gives the Feds an "out" for their corruption and coverup of their mishandling of the OKC bombing (which they do not deserve). I am concerned as to why Soloman's story was so incomplete in blaming the USG for knowing more than what SOloman knew to reveal in his story but did not reveal.

I found an article in the Newark Star Ledger in early May 1995 whcih quoted from the US Marshals memo put out by the head of the MArshalls, Eduardo GOnzales. I gave a copy to ABC news who put it on the national news in May 1995. Defense attorney Stephen Jones also publicly brought up the memo and in a March 1996 pretrial hearing with Judge MAtsch and US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson. Thus in May 1995 in OKlahoma and across the nation it was made known that a warning had been issued for a possible ME assisted attack on Fed buildings including the OKC Murrah building in the US. I went to the Senate Judiciary and Senate intelligence committees with this info and they did nothing even though the Pentagon terrorism advisor went with me.

WIlkinson admitted in the pretrial hearing that the FBI deliberately had not done an FBI 302 report on the US MArshalls warning. However, she represented to the court ( I have the court records) that the ENTIRE Federal family had been warned because of the memo. This included the BATF, CIA FBI, Federal judges and US MArshals.

THe US Marshals warning was used to specifically warn US Judge Wayne Ally in OKC in late March 1995. Ally told his hometown newspaper, the Oregonian, in May 1995 that Ally had used the warning to tell his children to take his grand children out of the Murrah buliding day care center where 16 children lost their lives on April 19, 1995. Ally stayed home to work at home after APril 4, 1995 and he was not on vacation either. When these facts became known, Ally was taken off the Nichols and McVeigh trials , the venue was changed to Denver and Ally was replaced by Matsch.

The FBI, not just the BATF, had prior warning and told their agents to stay out of the Murrah building on April 19, 1995. My wife was told this by prominent FBI agents wives, Dee Vogel and Christie Hersley at 9:30 am on APril 19, 1995 just 28 minutes after the Murrah building was bombed. The FBI wives also said that the FBI knew the bombing was coming as a result of "the BATF botching WACO".

The FBI did not have offices in the Murrah building but the FBI had 3-4 agents in the Murrah building everyday at 9am sharp (2 minutes before the Murrah bombing) and they often dropped children off at the day care center . The FBI went to court proceedings across the street at the Fed courthouse and met with agents of the DEA, BATF, secret Service and Defsne investigative services all housed in the Murrah building. I found numerous witnesses wo worked at the Murrah building who confirmed the FBI presence in the MUrrah building everuy day at 9 am. No FBI agents were in the Murrah building on APril 19, 1995, The FBI wives expressed relief that their husbands and other FBI agents had been told not to go to the Murrah building that day.

My wife has been threatened more than once with loss of employment for telling her story publicly by one of the FBI agents wives and by an FBI agent since 1995. The FBI sent FBI agent James Carlisle to our home in Jan 1996 to threaten me and my wife over this and other evidence we had learned of USG foreknowledge or forewarning. I personally spoke with OK Senator James Inhofe and the Seante Intell legal counsel Joan Grimson about the FBI threats to me and my wife. The Pentagon terror advisor Jesse Clear also spoke to the same offices (Inhofe and Grimson)on my wife's behalf. Nothing was done adequate to protect me or my wife or rectify the situation with the FBI.

One reason may be is that Seantors Inhofe's chief of staff, Herb Johnson wrote a letter in 1998 sating that Johnson had been told by the head of the FBI command center in OKC the week after the OKC bombing that the DOJ did not want the public to learn of a middle eastern connection to the OKC bombing. I discussed Johnson's leter with Inhofe who has kept this information from the American people for over seven years (Inhofe was told by Johnson about it in 1995). I wrote an article condeming Inhofe about this for FR on 8/11/2000 and I also blamed him for the loss of life for any future attacks (which happened on 9/11/2001). Inhofe sits on the Senate Intelligence COmmittee. The artcle: "While America Burns, Senator Inhofe Fiddles"

The same FBI agent Carlisle threatened sheriff David Kochendorfer in 1998 over the Sheriff having a news conference stating that on the evening of APril 19, 1995 COngressman Ernest Istook of Oklahoma told him and another sheriff Don HAmmonds that the USG had detailed prior warning on APril 9, 1995 of a ME assisted attack by local ME extremeists in OKC (Hamas & Iraqis&Iranians)). Carlisle falsified his 302 interview report with Kochendorfer just before Kochendoerfer was to testify before the OKC county grand jury investigating the OKC bombing. My wife was also threatened again in 1998 just before Hersley testified before the COunty grand jury.

A federal informant Cary Gagan was given immunity by US attorneys in Denver in early 1995 for information he provided of a terror attack on a Federal building in the Midwest that included the Murrah building and buildings in Denver and Omaha. Gagan had infiltrated the group ( included drug traffickers, ME terrorists and domestic dissidents)who was planning the bombing, Gagan made a delivery of explosives and a mixer to Dwight Kansas a week or so before the OKC bombing he says for the group. Gagan wrote the US attorneys again on APril 3, 1995 specifically warning them of the attack again. Gagan went public with his information which was shown on local and national TV but was rewarded with having his immunity revoked. Gagan has sued in Federal court over the Fiasco. The court records of this entire story are available and I have seen them. William Jasper of the NEw AMerican travelled Gagan's route with Gagan and believes Gagn was reporting on the group who helped do the OKC boombing. Jasper wrote extensively about Gagan in the NEw AMerican in 1998.

Jasper once told me he was specifically threatened by the CIA for his coverage of the OKC bombing and the USG forekowledge or forewarning.

THe FBI and USG excuse was that they did not know the exact day or hour of the bombing and that they got numerous threats whiuch they could not distinguish between. I believe they are being deceitful because what counts is whether or not the FBI and USG took these threats seriously enough to warn themselves, which they did but did not warn others who were private citizens who went to the social security offices and HUD and day care center and who were killed.

54 posted on 06/20/2002 10:03:04 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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55 posted on 06/20/2002 10:05:32 AM PDT by honway
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Please see reply #54. Thanks.
56 posted on 06/20/2002 10:08:58 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Your reply is better than the article posted at the top of this thread. Thanks for writing it again.
57 posted on 06/20/2002 10:11:55 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Grampa Dave
I for one do wish to see it all perhaps that breakdown in civil order would lead to a Constitutional restoration.

"Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free."

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

58 posted on 06/20/2002 10:16:55 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: grimalkin
Time for mysterious explosions to begin taking down buildings in Damascas, Bagdad, Tehran, Islamibad, Triploli, Morroco, Cairo, Riad, Mecha, Medina.......the X gernaration CIA
59 posted on 06/20/2002 10:34:00 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: OKCSubmariner
The FBI, not just the BATF, had prior warning and told their agents to stay out of the Murrah building on April 19, 1995.

Despite claims to the contrary, there is substantial evidence there were no ATF Agents in the Murrah Building at the time of the blast. There were ATF admin personnel, but no Agents. This gives you an idea of the character of the Agents that permitted their own staff to be sacrificed.

Luke Franey went so far as to enter the building after the blast and place a piece of poster board out a window with the words, "ATF Trapped" to cover the fact no Agents were inside the building at the time of the blast. Heros like Officer Terry Yeakey were pulling people from the rubble while Franey was covering for his complicity.

60 posted on 06/20/2002 10:36:13 AM PDT by honway
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