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As the link to Newsmax indicates, and as discussed in this post, it appears that C-SPAN will not be covering our counterprotest. No sense confusing things by hearing from patriotic veterans and Iraqi dissidents, is there!

DISARM SADDAM -- IT'S THE MOST PEACEFUL THING TO DO.

1 posted on 01/18/2003 4:56:09 AM PST by FreeTheHostages

To: FreeTheHostages

Is C-SPAN paid for by our TAX dollars?

If so then they had better cover both sides of this protest!

76 posted on 01/18/2003 6:47:25 AM PST by soycd

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Passing on E-mail

USAF 4 Star Speaks Out

For those of you who don't know who General Hawley is, he is a newly-retired 4-star General who commanded the U.S. Air Force Air Combat Command.

He recently delivered this speech, now that he's retired and no longer restricted to being politically correct, at the Air Force Association Annual Meeting.

"Since the attack, I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such incredible and surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too. Here they are:

1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative."

Listen carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what happens. In about half a day, the entire world would be a ghost town, and the United States would look like one giant line to see "The Producers.

2) "Violence only leads to more violence."

This one is so stupid you usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky, half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured back into the bosom of love." DEAD.

D-E --Well, you get the idea.

3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community has failed us."

For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy satellites. "After all," they reasoned, "you can see a license plate from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans is not possible with satellites.

You have to use other humans. When we bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks like Gary Busey in a Spring Break'93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'l be telling for years.

4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at us."

Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes into the killing grounds (I'm sorry, one of the "alleged hijackers," according to CNN-they stopped using the word "terrorist," you know), is > the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew this, too.

In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend more time drinking. At least, that was my excuse. It's the same today. Take the Anti-Global-Warming (or is it World Trade? Oh-who-knows-what-the-hell -they-want demonstrators) They all charged their black outfits and plane tickets on dad's credit card before driving to the airport in their SUV's.

5) "Any profiling is racial profiling."

Who's killing us here, the Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm crushed. I think we're all crushed. Please come back. With a cherry on top? Why don't they just change their names, anyway? It's happened in the past. Think about it.

How many Adolfs do you run into these days? Shortly after that, I remember watching TV with my jaw on the floor as a vernment official actually said, "That little old grandmother from Sioux City could be carrying something." Okay, how about this: No, she couldn't. It would never be the grandmother from Sioux City. Is it even possible? What are the odds? Winning a hundred Powerball lotteries in a row? A thousand? A million?

And now a Secret Service guy has been tossed off a plane and we're all supposed to cry about it because he's an Arab? Didn't it have the tiniest bit to do with the fact that he filled out his forms incorrectly- - three times? And then left an Arab history book on his seat as he strolled off the plane? And came back? Armed? Let's please all stop singing "We Are the World" for a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't offend them."

SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists and bleeding-heart liberals get away with their immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that bumper sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "You First. No More Pearl Harbors."

Dick Hawley

85 posted on 01/18/2003 6:52:47 AM PST by lonestar

To: FreeTheHostages; firebrand; nutmeg; StarFan; RaceBannon

Live D.C. coverage bump!!

117 posted on 01/18/2003 7:15:57 AM PST by Dutchy

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GOOD LUCK TO ALL FROM A VA FREEPER!!! AT LEAST IT IS COLD, THEREFORE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF STENCH YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH FROM THE PRO- PLO, HAMAS, COMMUNIST, MARXIST,SOCIALIST / ANTI- AMERICAN, CAPITALIST, MILITARY (OURS OF COURSE) "PROTESTERS"!!!

164 posted on 01/18/2003 7:50:28 AM PST by LuvUSA

To: FreeTheHostages

Stories to my local newspaper, radio, and tv media:
Since there is usually more than one side of a news story, hopefully you'll get both sides of the Washington DC stories for your latest news. There is an organization, MOVE OUT, hosting a counter protest near the VietNam Veteran's Memorial. They’re easy to find, they are the ones not burning USA flags.
Please, whenever you mention former attorney general Ramsey Clark, be certain to remind your audience that Mr. Ramsey Clark is currently Saddam Hussein's legal counsel. No conflict of interest with Mr. Ramsey Clark’s organization ANSWER?

175 posted on 01/18/2003 7:58:49 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Saddam expected to launch attack of 10,000 empty warheads upon our Nation's Capitol.)

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202 posted on 01/18/2003 8:14:45 AM PST by Atilla_the_Hun

To: FreeTheHostages; kristinn; Angelwood; All

WOO-HOO DC Chapter, veterans and patriots in Washington! : )

FReep on ~ from sea to shining sea!

FRegards from San FRancisco aka "Baghdad By The Bay." : )

205 posted on 01/18/2003 8:16:57 AM PST by American Preservative (R.E.S.P.O.N.S.E.! - R.allying E.verywhere S.tupid P.rotesters O.bviously N.eed S.ome E.ducation !)

To: FreeTheHostages; StarFan; nutmeg; RaceBannon

Bump the live thread for Patriots Rally....

256 posted on 01/18/2003 9:03:02 AM PST by Dutchy

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JUST SAW A REPORT ON FOX NEWS....tHEY DID GIVE OUR SIDE SOME TIME AND SAID WE ONLY HAD "A HUNDRED OR SO " SUPPORTERS....WHY THE WEAK NUMBERS????

264 posted on 01/18/2003 9:15:59 AM PST by LuvUSA

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Freeping opportunity:

Tell the peaceniks in Marin County what you think.

Sign Marin Peace and Justice Coalition Guestbook

Their Homepage

323 posted on 01/18/2003 9:52:58 AM PST by antaresequity

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563 posted on 01/18/2003 4:31:14 PM PST by Cindy

To: FreeTheHostages; kristinn; Angelwood; Mustang; OReilly

...KNBC-TV Channel 4 in So. California just had a good showing of the D.C. Patriot Rally, starting with your standing Flags next to The Vietnam Wall...

...which I really appreciate, guys 'n gals.

596 posted on 01/18/2003 6:02:53 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ( ..Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LzXRay.com ..)

To: FreeTheHostages; kristinn; Angelwood; Mustang; OReilly

...KNBC-TV Channel 4 in So. California just had a good showing of the D.C. Patriot Rally, starting with your standing Flags next to The Vietnam Wall...

...which I really appreciate, guys 'n gals.

598 posted on 01/18/2003 6:08:02 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ( ..Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LzXRay.com ..)