Is it what the courrage of our leaders comes to? NATO vs. Bin Laden? What a joke we are. Our time has come to realize that we are dead. We are still alive, but our date of execution is probably now precisely written somewhere, and we stand there, doing nothing, bogged down by our own chains of greed and stupidity, ready to be executed, kneeling.

Back off from that tree you've got your nose pressed to, and see the forest. This is but a single political move in a thicket of activity which will bring down bin Laden and friends.

What in the world are you talking about? This is a signal to the Arab wafflers that NATO has been given the evidence and they had better stay on board. There is nothing wrong with showing NATO that this is serious business, especially for those countries whose leaders have not yet come to the US (like Belgium).

President Bush has said at least twice that he appreciates having allies, but we will go it alone if necessary.

Knock off the purple prose and get with the program, please.

I think you pretty much covered it, lavaroise...

NATO vs. Bin Laden? What a joke we are.

What a silly comment you've made.

We're going in regardless of NATO, the UN, China, Russia, or any other country or entity. The briefing to NATO was a wakeup call to *them*, not to us.

You should bear in mind that even if we killed 200,000,000 muslims (which in itself is inconceivable) there would still be a billion pretty angry muslims left.

In my opinion, Bush has set the stage perfectly to induce terror in one muslim state after another while he demonizes only the terrorists. He's playing a masterful game of chess.

Of course, there would be a major problem if every arab state declared "we all support our freedom fighters."

Notice the pattern here folks......

Evidence presented today to NATO

Evidence presented this AM (PAK Time)by US Ambassador Wendy Chamberlin to PAK President....

Blair scheduled to address Parlimant at approx. 9:00 am ET.....

Northern alliance pulled back late yesterday from front lines.....

Fox News reported this am that 28,000 US troops poised in Afganistan, on the ground & ready to go.......

8:45 am this morning is three weeks to the moment......

All of this combined may have as much relevance as the my coffee spill this AM looks like Elvis (his fatter years)but the timing is interesting....

NeverGore

Obviously, we should and will take the proper steps to discourage terrorism.

But I wonder how Macedonia and Israel feel. When they were being hit (and still are) by terrorists, we kept urging "restraint" on them. And as some foreign official (I forget who) pointed out last week, when we intervened with military force in Kosovo, we were not battling Islamic terrorists -- but supporting them, with training, intelligence, arms, and finally massive air support.

It was the first time that NATO had invoked the Cold War-era Article V mutual defense clause of its founding treaty in its 52-year history.

This is huge. It probably should have been posted in "breaking news". The US must've had some pretty compelling evidence for this against bin Laden (whose been denying this the whole time). I'm looking forward to Tony Blair's address to Parliament today.

This is great news! The hair on the back of my neck is starting to stand up. I'm itching for payback.

More from Reuters:

NATO first invoked the Article V mutual defense clause of its 1949 founding treaty on September 12, the day after the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, but made it conditional on the assault having been initiated from abroad.

Robertson said that ``if'' had now been removed.

``We know that the individuals who carried out these attacks were part of the world-wide terrorist network of al Qaeda, headed by Osama bin Laden and his key lieutenants and protected by (Afghanistan's ruling) Taliban,'' he said in a statement.

``On the basis of this briefing, it has now been determined that the attack against the United States on September 11 was directed from abroad and shall therefore be regarded as an action covered by Article V of the Washington Treaty, which states that an armed attack on one or more of the allies in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against all of them.''

Robertson said the briefing covered results of the current investigation, background on Saudi-born militant bin Laden and his al Qaeda network and their involvement in ``previous terrorist activity,'' and the links between al Qaeda and the Taliban.

He gave no details and Taylor did not appear in public.

U.S. envoys delivered the same briefing on the investigation to governments in the 18 allied capitals at the same time, NATO officials said.

A European NATO diplomat said: ``Although we are now in an Article V situation, nothing obliges the United States to open detailed consultations, and it's our impression that they don't want to consult, especially on targets, and they don't even want to share information on targets.

``This is one step forward in the expression of our solidarity, but there are no concrete consequences now,'' he said.

Absolutely the wrong take, guys.

Now NATO is obligated to provide support to the operation.