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Well I am glad you know the whole truth.

As for me, there are too many questions about how the #2 at the FBI could have possibly known what was going in Nixon's inner circle. While the FBI knew about the situation after the fact, they did not know what was on the tapes until the tapes were transcribed and released (i.e. the famous Rosemary Woods tape deletion incident...).

The fact that Woodward was a former Navy officer and that he had previously been linked to Haig is apparently an inconvenient fact that should just be ignored. I got it now, ignore the inconvenient, accept the non-plausible.

While it may be possible that Haig used Felt as a conduit (i.e. Haig confirming Felt as "Deep Throat") the information was too far removed to be originally from Felt.

At this point, I really could not care less if Haig is outed or not, but to accept the "truth" coming from Felt after decades just smells like another red herring.

Cheers!

DD

Felt was not is a position to know anything about what was on the tapes or missing from the tapes at the time it was reported. At the time "Deep Throat" reported that there may be erasures on the tapes, the tapes had not been released by the White House to be reviewed by anyone, including the FBI. Remember, the "Executive Privilege" argument? So if they had not been released, how did the FBI know then?

Haig was in the White House at the time, and he wanted Nixon gone. Any questions?

Cheers!

DD

Other than the fact that Felt was not in a position to know all that "Deep Throat" knew, I agree completely...</sarcasm>

DD

What a complete and utter surprise that Haig (the actual "Deep Throat") would say the Felt was "Deep Throat"!

Nothing suspicious here, just move along...move along.

Cheers!

DD

Hello Captain K!

Mark Felt is not "Deep Throat". He may have been used by the actual "Deep Throat" to convey the story to Woodward but he was not in a first hand position to know what "Deep Throat" knew. Here is an e-mail I got from Len Colodny author of "Silent Coup" (the book concluded that Haig was actually "Deep Throat") along with an e-mail from Vanity Fair...

Enjoy!

DD

>>Don,
>>
>>
>>Without doubting that Felt talked to Woodward. The rest of the story
>>makes no sense, that Woodward had a long past relationship with "Deep
>>Throat"is not explained in this story. Why
>>would Felt trust Woodward a metro reporter for only nine months and
then
>>there is the tape
>>gap, the "Deliberate Erasure" how would Felt ever have known that
fact.
>>How Felt would
>>have gone from a confirming source to a direct source is also a
question
>>that needs to be answered. As we said in "Silent Coup" I still think
>>"Deep Throat" is a device to cover those Woodward did actually know,
who
>>had strong motives to see Nixon gone.
>>
>>I think there is a lot more to this revelation than meets the eye,
>>especially just a few months
>>after Joan Hoff challenged Woodward at UT to put "Deep Throat" on
video
>>tape, catching Woodward by surprise. I suspect what we have here is a
>>"red herring".
>>
>>Let us all wait to hear more from Woodward himself.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Len

P.S.

I don't think Felt really says it in the story, which is very
confusing.
Instead, there's a lot of third and fourth hand quotes. Like Felt told
his girlfriend, who later told others. But there's nothing in the story
where Felt tells the writer, "I'm Deep Throat, here's what I did and
why
I did it."

LC





>>Len
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Hurlbut, Elizabeth [mailto:Elizabeth_Hurlbut@condenast.com]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:16 AM
>>>Subject: Deep Throat's Identity Revealed - Vanity Fair Exclusive
>>>
>>>
>>>Please click on the URL link below for the full story. Please
contact
>>>Beth Kseniak at 212-286-7297 with any questions.
>>>
>>>http://www.vanityfair.com/pdf/pressroom/advance1.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>
>>>W. MARK FELT REVEALS HIMSELF TO BE WOODWARD AND BERNSTEIN'S DEEP
THROAT
>>>
>>>New York, N.Y. -- After decades of hiding the truth, even from his
>>>family, W. Mark Felt, number two at the F.B.I. in the early 70s,
reveals
>>>himself to be the source who leaked secrets about Nixon's Watergate
>>>cover-up, telling lawyer John D. O'Connor, the author of Vanity
Fair's
>>>exclusive, "I'm the guy they used to call Deep Throat."
>>>
>>>O'Connor reports that Felt, aged 91, is a retiree living in Santa
Rosa,
>>>California, with his daughter, Joan. After witnessing the decline of
>>>Felt's health and mental acuity, and after receiving his and Joan's
>>>permission to reveal this information, O'Connor decided to write
this
>>>article for Vanity Fair. The Felt family cooperated fully, providing
old
>>>photographs for the story and agreeing to sit for portraits.
>>>
>>>Felt's family did not learn of this aspect of his past until 2002,
when
>>>Felt's close friend and frequent social companion Yvette La Garde
told
>>>Joan that Felt had confided to her he had indeed been Washington
Post
>>>reporter Bob Woodward's source. Joan confronted her father, who
>>>initially denied it, but after she explained La Garde's disclosure
Felt
>>>responded, "Since that's the case, well, yes I am." Then and there,
she
>>>pleaded with him to announce his role immediately so that he could
have
>>>some closure, and accolades, while he was still alive. Felt
reluctantly
>>>agreed, then changed his mind. He seemed determined to take his
secret
>>>with him to the grave.
>>>
>>>Joan tried to elicit further response from her father about his role
as
>>>Deep Throat while they were watching a Watergate TV special. When
his
>>>name came up as the possible informant, she says, she deliberately
>>>questioned her father in the third person: "Do you think Deep Throat
>>>wanted to get rid of Nixon?" Joan says that Felt replied, "No, I
wasn't
>>>trying to bring him down." He claimed, instead, that he was "only
doing
>>>his duty."
>>>
>>>Felt was initially adamant about remaining silent on the subject,
>>>thinking disclosures about his past somehow dishonorable. "I don't
think
>>>[being Deep Throat] was anything to be proud of," Felt indicated to
his
>>>son, Mark junior, at one point. "You [should] not leak information
to anyone."
>>>
>>>Felt told his daughter, Joan, that he worried "what the judge would
>>>think," fearing, perhaps, that a court might look down on his
actions.
>>>
>>>"He was amenable at first," his grandson Nick tells O'Connor. "Then
he
>>>was wavering. He was concerned about bringing dishonor to our
family. We
>>>thought it was totally cool. It was more about honor than about any
kind
>>>of shame [to] Grandpa.... To this day, he feels he did the right
thing."
>>>
>>> O'Connor reports that after learning their father's secret, Joan
and
>>> Mark junior urged him to go public, explaining that they wanted his
>>> legacy to be heroic and permanent, not anonymous, and adding that
>>> perhaps he could profit from his revelations. Felt argued with
them,
>>> saying he didn't want the story out there. Joan recalls saying:
"Bob
>>> Woodward's gonna get all the glory for this, but we could make at
least
>>> enough money to pay some bills, like the debt I've run up for the
kids'
>>> education. Let's do it for the family." With that, both children
>>> remember, Felt finally agreed. "He wasn't particularly interested,"
>>> Mark says, "but he said, 'That's a good reason.'" The Felt children
>>> were motivated by the desire to have their father's legacy
permanent
>>> and heroic, not anonymous.
>>>
>>>At that time, Felt agreed to cooperate, but only with the assistance
of
>>>Woodward, now assistant managing editor at The Washington Post.
Acceding
>>>to Felt's wishes, Joan and O'Connor spoke to Woodward by phone on a
>>>half-dozen occasions over a period of months about whether to make a
>>>joint revelation, possibly in the form of a book or an article.
O'Connor
>>>says that Woodward would sometimes begin these conversations with a
>>>caveat, saying, "Just because I'm talking to you, I'm not admitting
that
>>>he is who you think he is."
>>>
>>>According to O'Connor, Woodward's chief concerns were: Was this
>>>something that Joan and O'Connor were pushing on Felt, or did he
>>>actually want to reveal himself? And, was Felt actually in a clear
>>>mental state? To make his own assessment, Woodward told Joan and
>>>O'Connor, he wanted to come out and sit down with her father, whom
he
>>>had not seen since August 1999, around the 25th anniversary of
Nixon's
>>>resignation. At that time, Woodward had appeared at the house
>>>unannounced, telling Joan he was a friend of her father's. Felt had
been
>>>dodging reporters all week but seemed totally comfortable with
Woodward,
>>>and even went to lunch with him.
>>>
>>>In recent years, Woodward spoke by telephone to Joan, Mark junior,
and
>>>twice to Felt himself "without anyone else listening," says Joan.
"Dad's
>>>memory gradually has deteriorated since the original lunch, [but]
Dad
>>>remembered Bob whenever he called.... I said, 'Bob, it's unusual for
Dad
>>>to remember someone as clearly as you.'" She says that Woodward
>>>responded, "He has good reason to remember me."
>>>
>>>According to Joan, Woodward later scheduled two visits to see her
>>>father, but had to cancel both times, then never rescheduled. "That
was
>>>disappointing," she says. "Maybe [he was] just hoping that I would
>>>forget about it." Joan and Woodward still correspond by e-mail, she
>>>says, and Joan thinks very highly of him. "He's so reassuring and
>>>top-notch," she says.
>>>
>>>During one phone conversation, O'Connor reports Joan said to
Woodward:
>>>"'Bob, just between you and me, off the record, I want you to
confirm:
>>>was Deep Throat my dad?' He wouldn't do that. I said, 'If he's not,
you
>>>can at least tell me that. We could put this to rest.' And he said,
'I
>>>can't do that.'"
>>>
>>>Mark junior tells O'Connor: "Making the decision [to go to the
press]
>>>would have been difficult, painful, and excruciating, and outside
the
>>>bounds of his life's work. He would not have done it if he didn't
feel
>>>it was the only way to get around the corruption in the White House
and
>>>Justice Department. He was tortured inside, but never would show it.
He
>>>was not this Hal Holbrook [who played Deep Throat in All the
President's
>>>Men] character. He was not an edgy person. [Even though] it would be
the
>>>most difficult decision of his life, he wouldn't have pined over
it."
>>>
>>>O'Connor reports that Yvette La Garde shared Felt's secret with her
>>>eldest son, Mickey, a retired army lieutenant colonel based at NATO
>>>military headquarters (requiring a top-secret security clearance).
>>>Mickey La Garde tells O'Connor that he has remained mum about the
>>>revelation ever since: "My mom's condo unit was in Watergate and I'd
see
>>>Mark," he tells O'Connor. "In one of those visits, in 1987 or '88,
she
>>>confided to [my wife] Dee and I that Mark had, in fact, been the
Deep
>>>Throat that brought down the Nixon administration. I don't think
Mom's
>>>ever told anyone else."
>>>
>>>The July issue of Vanity Fair hits newsstands in New York on June 8
and
>>>nationally June 14.
>>>
>>>
>>>

---

>>>Elizabeth Hurlbut
>>>Public Relations Assistant
>>>Vanity Fair
>>>212-286-6051 phone
>>>212-286-4701 fax

Game, Set, Match...

DD

Page 6 of NY Times Magazine:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/10/magazine/10KERRY.html?pagewanted=6

Kerrys Undeclared War

When I asked Kerry what it would take for Americans to feel safe again, he displayed a much less apocalyptic worldview. ''We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance,'' Kerry said. ''As a former law-enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.''

----------------------------------------------------------

This guy is a space case...

DD

Are we sure that Kerry will take the time to CUT???

DD

Hey Kelly:

So far I have not seen one, single, solitary commercial for Jones...are we sure he is running? Perhaps I just missed the numerous commercials, but I thinks not.

The silence is deafening...

DD

Question from the audience:

Regarding Layman's Silver Star letter (which he does not remember writing), note the "justified left and right sides" of the letter. This letter too did not have mono-spaced type. There is no date on the letter...

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/militaryrecords_1.pdf

Problem???

DD

If the Democrats actually pretended to be Americans and did not bad-mouth the war while our soldiers are in harm's way, the death toll would be closer to 500...the blood is on their hands.

Democrats claim to be patriotic...but for which side?

DD

Hello Ichneumon:

Just a thought regarding:

Kerry's boat hit something in the water, like a treestump or sandbar or whatever

Mayhaps the Kerry boat hit the fishing wier? You know like this:

1. PCF-3 boat hits the mine (or it is set off by VC unknown).

2. Kerry makes the sharp turn (to get around the wier) but hits the gas before clearing the wier, hits the wier and wham, the boat is rocked. The wier could have been made of wood which when broken could have a large "CRACK" or "POP" (hence second supposed mine).

3. Rassmann on the "starboard" side is thrown off by both the acceleration and the hitting of the wier. Kerry is tossed about unable to see Rassmann leave.

4. Now Kerry thinking he is being attacked really puts pedal to bronze star medal err I mean floorboard.

Possible???? It appears to match the WP graphic and associated statements...

DD

I am not doubting the fact that there are true American heroes that received 3 purple hearts, but what I am trying to find out is how many got 3 purple hearts and got their ticket out of country.

So far, sadly no info...

DD

Well unfortunately since Kerry was not listed, the database must not be complete.

I do appreciate the effort though...

DD

Where do we find out information about the others that received purple hearts?

Diamond Don

Thank you in advance for your help!

Maybe the President should to his support for: Senator Toomey Spector!

DD

On your ping list please...

"Tanks"

DD

Hey D1!

Not to disagree (obviously disagreeing here...) BUT, when you said:

The Republicans control the House. How the hell did this commission get legs at this time in an election year.

The House leadership is about as impotent as any group of people I have ever seen.

Ever thought that what we have here is "terrorism" being debated and specifically 9-11 where Bush truly shines. By "yielding" to the left for a kangaroo court oops..."commission" the war and terrorism is in the public eye...a war Kerry voted for (before voting against the funding).

As crappy as the RATS get, it is better this fight than the fight on the economy (where the RATS talk down the economy...this is only a second tier sidebar now).

We're doing great here...

DD

Sent my e-mail to Mai T. Dinh!

DD