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Axelrod Astroturfing: ‘President-elect, Obama’
Self ^ | 12/01/08 | MHGinTN

Posted on 12/01/2008 11:42:16 AM PST by MHGinTN

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For Freeper consumption, to defuse the deceit before it gets too much traction and becomes 'popular opinion'.
1 posted on 12/01/2008 11:42:16 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Jim Robinson; LucyT; pissant; Polarik; bert; bvw; Mr. Silverback; seekthetruth; greyfoxx39; ...

Thought it was about time to address this Axelrod methodology since it is now running so prominently in the sycophantic media.


2 posted on 12/01/2008 11:44:39 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: RGPII

ping


3 posted on 12/01/2008 11:48:48 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

See how easy it is ?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2140956/posts


4 posted on 12/01/2008 11:57:26 AM PST by ScottSS (...it's not because he's black, it's because he's red.)
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To: MHGinTN

You are right that Axelrod is a master at media manipulation. The term ‘president-elect’ however, is not what is referred to here as psychographics. Psychographics is a term of art in marketing that segments individuals based on values and beliefs as a supplement to ‘demographics’ which is based on income, age, gender and education.

With apologies, your argument is well-intentioned, but...

The reason that the press (sycophantic or otherwise) is using the term “President-elect Obama” is because, like it or not, that is what he is.

I am among those who would not be disturbed if he was officially found to be disqualified, but snowballs in Hell are more likely.


5 posted on 12/01/2008 12:01:46 PM PST by newheart (President Obama? We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: ScottSS
Whaaaa ...?
6 posted on 12/01/2008 12:03:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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Until after Dec 15, the term ‘president-elect’ is not valid. Nice try though ... did you think you were voting directly for Obama and not the electors of/for same?


7 posted on 12/01/2008 12:05:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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Psychographic = From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the field of marketing, demographics, opinion research, and social research in general, psychographic variables are any attributes relating to personality, values, attitudes, interests, or lifestyles. They are also called IAO variables (for Interests, Attitudes, and Opinions). They can be contrasted with demographic variables (such as age and gender), behavioral variables (such as usage rate or loyalty), and bizographic variables (such as industry, seniority and functional area).
When a relatively complete assessment of a person or group's psychographic make-up is constructed, this is called a psychographic profile. Psychographic profiles are used in market segmentation as well as in advertising.

8 posted on 12/01/2008 12:10:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

The Telegraph ( UK) used the term in a a headline as follows

“President-elect Barack Obama proposes economic suicide for US”

Just supportng your point


9 posted on 12/01/2008 12:17:10 PM PST by ScottSS (...it's not because he's black, it's because he's red.)
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Thanks, MHGinTN. Another President with Astroturf connections!

Ping.

10 posted on 12/01/2008 12:17:40 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: MHGinTN

Did everyone get a chance to see the Youtube video on how easy it is to fake an 0bama birth certificate?


11 posted on 12/01/2008 12:19:26 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MHGinTN
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IN HIS OWN WORDS

12 posted on 12/01/2008 12:20:10 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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“The reason that the press (sycophantic or otherwise) is using the term “President-elect Obama” is because, like it or not, that is what he is.”

No, actually until the Congress counts the electoral votes in January it is merely presumed that Obama will become President-elect. But he is not that yet.


13 posted on 12/01/2008 12:21:03 PM PST by devere
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"Until after Dec 15, the term ‘president-elect’ is not valid. Nice try though ... did you think you were voting directly for Obama and not the electors of/for same?"

The term "president-elect" has been used from the moment the election results were known for as long as I can remember in my almost 55 years. December 15 is really irrelevant to the term as what happens 12/15 is merely a procedural rubber stamp.

14 posted on 12/01/2008 12:23:51 PM PST by DaGman
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To: Jeff Head

Hey, Jeff. How are ya these days?

Wouldn’t the title, “A PAUCITY of truth...” be a better fit in your link? That’s what The One’s given us about his birth and upbringing...


15 posted on 12/01/2008 12:32:21 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: MHGinTN

You make a very good point.

So it might the case that it would be better to say ‘presumptive-president-elect’ but Obama is certainly not the first person to be referred to as president-elect prior to the electoral college results. The funding for the transition team is even authorized for the president-elect well before the Electoral College acts.

In the strictest technical sense it may not be correct (but even that is a little bit of a reach) but it is certainly common parlance.

So it reamains a little hard to attribute the media’s use of the term to Axelrod.

To your overall point, though, it would have been nice if the public had been better educated regarding the techniques of media manipulation. But that is even less likely than Obama failing to get Electoral College ratification.


16 posted on 12/01/2008 12:32:59 PM PST by newheart (President Obama? We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: newheart

You are incorrect and under the assumption we are a democracy.


17 posted on 12/01/2008 12:33:40 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: DaGman

While you are correct in that, this is the first time I have seen daily press conferences with the assumed President-Elect in front of a sign that said “Office of President-Elect”.


18 posted on 12/01/2008 12:34:33 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: dcwusmc

The PAUCITY (or lack) of truth is what he has given. The Audacity of Truth is what I am attempting to provide.


19 posted on 12/01/2008 12:34:42 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MHGinTN

8217? I don’t believe you!


20 posted on 12/01/2008 12:35:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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