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Axelrod Astroturfing: ‘President-elect, Obama’
Self ^ | 12/01/08 | MHGinTN

Posted on 12/01/2008 11:42:16 AM PST by MHGinTN

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To: devere
"But he is not that yet."

And yet he and pretty much every person who has ever been elected to the office has been called 'president-elect' from the moment popular votes have been counted. Yeah, "presumptive president-elect" would be a better descriptor, but my point is that we cannot pin the mistaken use of the term on David Axelrod.

21 posted on 12/01/2008 12:37:50 PM PST by newheart (President Obama? We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: autumnraine
You are incorrect and under the assumption we are a democracy.

I do know the difference. What concerns me more is that you and I may both be mistaken in thinking that we are still a republic.

22 posted on 12/01/2008 12:40:34 PM PST by newheart (President Obama? We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: autumnraine

Yeah, I do think it’s a little odd to have the sign.


23 posted on 12/01/2008 12:48:38 PM PST by DaGman
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To: newheart

Now you are very very right about that. I am afraid that too many people are under the assumption we are a democracy and just by their belief, make it so.


24 posted on 12/01/2008 12:54:47 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Jeff Head

OK. That makes sense to me... Your audacity has always been inspirational, my friend!


25 posted on 12/01/2008 1:00:36 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: DaGman

Do you recall the media referring to Bush#2 that way after the vote counting/fabrications stopped in Flordia? The point I’m trying to raise is that Axelrod is a practiced astroturfer. By constantly hammering the public wigth this inflated image of ‘president-elect’ as if he is in fact now the president and Bush is merely in his way, Axelrod is setting up an extortionist dream, to hold the nation in ‘blackmail’ with Kenayan style violence to occur if this affirmative action poseur is not promoted to the position he demands and appears to be forging his way into. The media is emphasizing the phrase beyond the traditional pomp, for a reason. The next phase, if the SCOTUS in fact moves the issue out of conference into full hearing, will be for the media to hint then insinuate that violence will sweep the Republic if this ‘president-elect’ is not installed according to ‘the will of the people’. Watch for it. They—the sycophantic media—are fully predictable because they are so completely transmogrified now into the fifth column enemy of the Constitution.


26 posted on 12/01/2008 1:04:18 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Revolting cat!
I'm trying to keep up don'tchaknow ... no sound effects at FR:

Borge.

27 posted on 12/01/2008 1:06:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: All; MHGinTN; Jeff Head; backhoe; miss print; kristinn; Republic

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NEVER FORGET

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It gets worse.

Today BIDEN addressed OBAMA as “Mr. President” on national TV while standing behind a podium with a non-existant “The Office of President-Elect” placard still posted on it for the benefit of TV viewers.

Incidentally, Astroturfing was exactly the way Vietnamese Communist HO CHI MINH first started his move to Communize all of Vietnam, and then S.E. Asia, after World War II.

Which ended up bringing on a most horrid:

JOURNEY from the FALL

http://www.JourneyFromTheFall.com

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806248/posts

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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NEVER FORGET

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28 posted on 12/01/2008 5:23:15 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com11)
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To: MHGinTN
All this ‘President-elect’ psychobabble is a designed campaign to arrange a powerful extortion position where, if Obama is rejected because he is not Constitutionally eligible--as he may actually know all too well at this point, the American public and the courts will meet the threat of extreme violence should the Astroturf affirmative action candidate be rejected by application of Constitutional law.

I'd say that the more likely astroturfing is the common use of the suggestion that there will be mass riots if the Supreme Court declares Obama ineligible.

I see this in all the articles now, meant to imply that the grass-roots people will rise up in anger and riot if the SCOTUS doesn't just go along with the plan. Is there any actual evidence that the people will do this, or are they just trying to give the impression that people will riot in order to sway the court into acquiescing on Obama?

-PJ

29 posted on 12/01/2008 5:35:50 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I have never seen any evidence that it will in fact happen, I believe it is a media driven incitement to riot, more than any actual groups saying it will happen. Speculation, with no proof.

It would not surprise me though, if there were. That is certainly no reason to ignore the Constitution and damn the consequences. If they riot, the are punished.

30 posted on 12/01/2008 6:24:05 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: MHGinTN

Excellent, thank you.


31 posted on 12/01/2008 6:47:39 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: newheart

How about the newly invented “Office of the President Elect” with its special seal?


32 posted on 12/01/2008 6:49:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: MHGinTN

Once Bush v. Gore was decided Bush was commonly and regularly referred to as “president-elect” as the honeymoon every new president gets set in. Every other presidential candidate that wins the election is also commonly and often referred to as “president-elect”.

Like it or not, Obama is president-elect and Bush is on his way out as probably the first presidential paraplegic duck I’ve ever seen in my years.

Yes, it’s irritating. But that’s the way it is. He won the election and he’ll be the next president. That’s the way it is in America. That’s the way it’s been in America for 232 years.


33 posted on 12/01/2008 7:02:35 PM PST by DaGman
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To: little jeremiah
You mean this one? ;-)

Outrageously presumptuous.

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34 posted on 12/01/2008 8:05:27 PM PST by newheart (President Obama? We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
"Is there any actual evidence that the people will do this, or are they just trying to give the impression that people will riot in order to sway the court into acquiescing on Obama?"

Media-driven at this point, I believe. What Obammy's doing is supplying the trappings of the presidency as quickly as he can to get the folks used to living with the idea he IS president already.

Yes, he's moving at flank speed to get things done, even naming his cabinet today. And that little trick of having the appointees gather on stage to acknowledge their appointments with all the flags in the background was their way of genuflecting their king -- giving him credence to act as though his election was already set in stone and irreversible.

35 posted on 12/01/2008 8:46:04 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

Excellent post. Couldn’t have said it any better myself.


36 posted on 12/01/2008 8:59:42 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: MHGinTN
" Watch for it. They—the sycophantic media—are fully predictable because they are so completely transmogrified now into the fifth column enemy of the Constitution."

That is the sad truth of the matter and cannot be denied.

37 posted on 12/01/2008 9:00:52 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: justiceseeker93

(Thank you!)


38 posted on 12/01/2008 9:04:03 PM PST by Eastbound
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