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The abomination of Ukraine's 19,000 stolen children: They're told they are going on holiday - but most never return... Instead, they are indoctrinated, threatened and forcibly adopted by Russians
The Daily Mail ^ | 25 May 2023 | Sally Williams

Posted on 05/25/2023 5:42:05 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: USA-FRANCE

It’s amazing to me how easily people like you are manipulated. It’s 1984 all over again.


21 posted on 05/25/2023 6:29:19 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Taking children and raising them in your society is as old as warfare, and as common.

Russia needs population. It is not replenishing itself.

Russians may also believe they are helping the children. Quite likely.

22 posted on 05/25/2023 6:29:41 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Russia needs population. It is not replenishing itself.

Russia is an authoritarian nation. If their people do not want to have children, maybe Putin needs to conscript women and force them to have babies for the motherland. But leave Ukraine and other former Soviet Republics out of it.

23 posted on 05/25/2023 6:31:24 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: JoSixChip

They have done it before.


24 posted on 05/25/2023 6:32:53 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: CFW

Trafficking in Persons Report

2022 rankings
Ukraine is tier 2
Russia is tier 3

Definitions/categories
Tier 1 countries whose governments fully comply with the TVPA’s minimum standards.

Tier 2 countries whose governments do not fully comply with all of TVPA’s minimum standards, but are making significant efforts to bring themselves into compliance with those standards.

Tier 3 countries whose governments do not fully comply with the minimum standards and are not making significant efforts to do so.


25 posted on 05/25/2023 6:33:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: JoSixChip; All

You talk like those soviet Putinistas who says there is “NO WAR”? Right?
Do you also believe the earth is flat?


26 posted on 05/25/2023 6:36:51 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: JoSixChip

Ever notice that refugees don’t pour into Russia, Cuba, North Korea, or China?


27 posted on 05/25/2023 6:37:17 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Karl Spooner

Good boys that needed structure were allowed to join the military instead of facing some charges, which is a vast difference from hardened, convicted prison inmates.

Teens who were perceived as good boys, not convicted killers and rapists, and robbers, tried, convicted, sentenced, and sitting in prisons.


28 posted on 05/25/2023 6:38:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: JoSixChip

Putin and Hillary were pals, she helped him get Kazachstan’s uranium mines. Biden has always been in Russia’s camp, at least since the 1980s when he and the other rats- that we still have jacking things up- were doing their best to make sure Russia could have Nicaraguan bases.


29 posted on 05/25/2023 6:40:51 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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30 posted on 05/25/2023 6:41:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican; All

And here is an earlier article from Daily Mail dating from Mars:

‘Putin has STOLEN our Ukrainian children’: Distraught parents tell how THOUSANDS of youngsters never returned from ‘summer camps’ they went to after being rounded up by Russian troops in ‘campaign’ likened to ISIS abduction of Yazidi girls

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11821825/Ukrainian-parents-tell-heartache-children-taken-Russians-education-camps.html


31 posted on 05/25/2023 6:45:59 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: JoSixChip

Let me guess. You are pro Russian with Ukraine. Everything is propaganda if Russia looks bad. It kinda sounds like you are pushing the propaganda


32 posted on 05/25/2023 6:47:48 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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To: USA-FRANCE

That’s why Russia feels comfortable hanging out with authoritarian countries like Iran, Syria, North Korea and Venezuela.


33 posted on 05/25/2023 6:48:15 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ansel12
The point minority was making was "how bad are the prisons". You are off skew, too. I notice you guys don't say a word how Ukraine gets there men. If this happened in Russia you guys sure would. There is a ton of these videos out there. Even grabbing old guys.

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34 posted on 05/25/2023 6:53:45 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: roving
Let me guess.

And let me guess, you are putty in the hands of this government and the msm. Even after being proven liars over and over, they still control how you think. I'd further insult you, but it's obviously a waste of time.
35 posted on 05/25/2023 6:54:23 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: Karl Spooner

I don’t know what that video was about, but I do know that it was barbaric for Russia to invade their neighbor and to send the prison population against that neighbor as mercenaries.

It will be interesting to watch over the coming years what effect those returning prisoners will have in Russia now that they are trained military and hardened fighters, it could be the Russian criminal world is going to be more violent, better trained, better armed, and more daring than they were before.


36 posted on 05/25/2023 7:00:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
CNN, huh? I hope you can see that's part of your problem.
Hard to believe anyone can believe western media, especially
after what they did to Trump. I hope you can snap out of it, I really do.
37 posted on 05/25/2023 7:17:39 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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What are you even about?
The Clinton pal in Uranium One deal was Frank Giustra, a Canadian mining magnate and big donor on the board of the Clinton Foundation. Also gave Haiti gold mine shares to Hillary’s brother, Tony.


38 posted on 05/25/2023 8:00:29 PM PDT by silverleaf (It’s not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: ansel12
I didn't figure you would want to explore any of that for yourself.

"Barbaric"? Oh, aren't you people so innocent. It was common in Ukraine to openly discuss genocide on their public TV for the extermination of the Russian population that lived in Ukraine. You guys are completely lost. Brainwashed.

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Think they were kidding? Here, watch them burn 47 Russians to death. As far as anyone can determine, no charges were ever brought forth.


39 posted on 05/25/2023 8:05:25 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: ansel12; Karl Spooner; All

Evil dark forces have taken over Russia. It’s the Russian/Soviet deep-state. The Russian people have to suffer for it. The Ukrainian people have to suffer for it.
And we, the Western people, are now hoping for the best while preparing for the worst. That’s good. We have awakened from our naivety thinking that the Soviets would never again invade sovereign nations...

Russia has STILL not given back Kaliningrad in the center of Europe! Kaliningrad is of course overflowing with Russian nuclear missiles as we speak... Putin was boasting about that again recently. No wonder NATO was created.

NATO and America is the last line of defense from Kremlin’s BIG Government Soviet control and their communist friends : North Korea, China, Cuba, Belarus, Venezuela, Nicaragua. AND... the Islamic State of IRAN (they are the true Putinistas)

We must also awaken the 10% of FR people drunken on deep-state Kremlin propaganda juice. While they rightfully criticize Americas deep-state, they seem do adore Kremlin’s deep state. Isn’t that kind of ironic... ?


40 posted on 05/25/2023 8:09:04 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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