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Russia's War Against Evangelicals
Time ^ | 4/20/24 | Peter Pomerantsev

Posted on 04/20/2024 8:00:21 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Russia defending themselves against globohomo that uses evangelicals as a cover


41 posted on 04/20/2024 9:29:11 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: pigeoninthepark

Yeah, just accuse random Christians, whom you’ve done zero research on, of being globohomo because... they’re Ukrainian? Because they got tortured?

I’m really interested in the logic behind this.


42 posted on 04/20/2024 9:30:50 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

CIA agents using religion as a cover got caught and got their butts handed to them. Good on Russia. Death to globohomo.


43 posted on 04/20/2024 9:49:10 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

What foreigners forget, or didn’t know, is controlling American religions is like hearding cats. It can’t be done.

I double majored in biochemistry and religion (yes that’s odd).

One course was on American religions taught by a professor from Howard University.

It was basically who broke from whom over the most trivial of reasons.

So many splinter groups the areligious heathens in Washington couldn’t possibly keep up.


44 posted on 04/20/2024 9:53:20 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; kiryandil; Bikkuri; Jane Long
I just woke up one day and thought, “this forum is screwed.”
I’m starting to feel that way again real fast.

Cool. Don’t let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya, hear? Bye, now! 👋

45 posted on 04/20/2024 9:54:01 PM PDT by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: Reverend Wright; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; ...

Ukraine ping

ZF: [American Christians are mostly Protestants, and take a strong interest in the welfare of other Protestants around the globe.]

Rev Wright: [Except in Israel.]


Are some Jews in Israel averse to Protestant efforts to introduce Israelis to the faith? Sure. But unlike in Russia, evangelical efforts in Israel are legal. In Russia, Protestant clerics are imprisoned.

https://arriveministries.org/living-as-a-persecuted-christian-in-russia/
[Andrei was a youth pastor and contractor in Russia. An oppressive law that passed in 2016 banned the public sharing of one’s Christian faith. After receiving threats from Russian officials on the lives of his two children, Andrei, his wife Galina and their children fled from Russia as refugees, and arrived in Minnesota in 2019. We interviewed Andrei about life in Russia and the persecution he left behind:

Q: Tell us about how the 2016 Yaravaya law was implemented in Russia?

A: Russia adopted a law making it unconstitutional to be a Christian, even though the (Russian) constitution says you are free to profess any faith. (The Yarovaya law increases regulation of evangelism, including a ban on the performance of “missionary activities” in non-religious settings.)

Based on this law, which is active right now, if you declare that you belief this or that or if you publically invite someone to church, of if you share an invitation to a Christian conference or service on facebook, sometimes even if you just attend church you will receive a huge fine or you can be jailed for up to 3 years. If you represent a church as a pastor or leader, then the fine is $1M rubles ($15,700) and up to 5 years in jail, if they can prove that you were promoting your faith.

It’s not like you have much of a choice; you can either be quiet, or try not to be afraid and continue sharing your faith. Some Christians were imprisoned, others were trying to move across the border into Finland.]


Putin has revived the state monopoly on Christian churches that was created during the Bolshevik era.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarovaya_law
[Criticisms of anti-evangelism provisions

The anti-evangelism provisions of the legislation prompted an outcry of concern and opposition from Russia’s Protestant minority, which makes up about 1% of Russia’s population.[14] According to experts, the law is likely to be interpreted in a way to block churches other than the Russian Orthodox Church from evangelizing ethnic Russians.[14] Religious denominations with a smaller presence in Russia have long been viewed with hostility by government officials and Russian Orthodox religious authorities. The harsh new restrictions on minority religious groups supplemented the requirements under a 1997 law that mandated registration and administrative procedures, which many religious groups found onerous and expensive to comply with.[29]

Thomas J. Reese, the chair of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, said that “Neither these measures nor the currently existing anti-extremism law meet international human rights and religious freedom standards” and that the Yarovaya Law “will make it easier for Russian authorities to repress religious communities, stifle peaceful dissent, and detain and imprison people.”[30]]


Some think of these ideologies and/or religions as things with an independent existence. In the hands of Russian puppeteers like Putin, his Communist predecessors and the Romanovs, perhaps they were just tools for gaining and wielding state power.


46 posted on 04/20/2024 10:06:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: lightman

Nobody remembers (or expects) the Spanish Inquisition. But I want it back. There are way too many heretics around.


47 posted on 04/20/2024 10:13:54 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: pigeoninthepark

You and your constant signing up here to troll until you get kicked off again.

It is a strange way to occupy yourself.


48 posted on 04/20/2024 10:15:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

How’s that Ukraine offensive going, loser?


49 posted on 04/20/2024 10:18:40 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: pigeoninthepark

LOL, what a poor soul you are to have no life but constantly seeking to temporarily be at FR until your toxic personality gets you caught out again.


50 posted on 04/20/2024 10:29:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Crimea will be re-captured any day! The ghost of Kiev is on his way! Hahahaha


51 posted on 04/20/2024 10:38:12 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; lightman

Interesting book here . . . .

Secret History of the Jesuits, The
By Edmond Paris

https://www.chick.com/products/item?stk=191

Secrets the Jesuits don’t want Christians to know

Originally written in French, then translated to English:

Out of Europe, a voice is heard from the secular world that documents historically the same information told by ex-priests. The author exposes the Vatican’s involvement in world politics, intrigues, and the fomenting of wars throughout history. It appears, beyond any doubt, that the Roman Catholic institution is not a Christian church and never was. The poor Roman Catholic people have been betrayed by her and are facing spiritual disaster. Paris shows that Rome is responsible for the two great world wars.

Author Edmond Paris explains why he wrote this book...

“The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars — a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict.”

“In fact, the part they took in those tragic events has hardly been mentioned until the present time, except by apologists eager to disguise it. It is with the aim of rectifying this and establishing the true facts that we present in this and other books the political activity of the Vatican during the contemporary — activity which mutually concerns the Jesuits.”

“This study is based on irrefutable archive documents, publications from well-known political personalities, diplomats, ambassadors and eminent writers, most of whom are Catholics, even attested by the imprimatur.” “


52 posted on 04/20/2024 11:30:53 PM PDT by Norski
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To: packagingguy

And new schisms being created all the time for instance, the Methodists right now, pro- vs. anti-LGHDTV or whatever the appropriate character string might be.


53 posted on 04/21/2024 12:21:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Robert DeLong

No, “the US” is not. The Democrats are; and, need I add that historically, the Democrats have been aligned with Russia in almost every way since the 1960s?


54 posted on 04/21/2024 12:33:07 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Reverend Wright

The Russian communists, in conjunction with the US communist party, etc., are what gave us the World Council of Churches and the National Council of Churches, both of which are just political fronts for spreading marxism.

They have done a lot of damage to Christianity and dubbed a lot of people over the decades.


55 posted on 04/21/2024 12:40:08 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; Fedora

That snippet about this state sponsored orthodox guy’s connection to imported tobacco is interesting. I don’t think people realize how much money terrorist groups and states get from the global addiction to tobacco.

Hezbollah (in Russia’s circle of friends) has a big connection to tobacco smuggling, among other things. As does the IRGC in the Persian Gulf.

The Balkans, Turkey, Iran and North Africa are heavily impacted by the tobacco trade.


56 posted on 04/21/2024 1:27:47 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
"I forgot how retarded a lot of this forum has become."

Never go full retard.

57 posted on 04/21/2024 1:38:11 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (The South will be in the right in the next war of Northern aggression.)
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To: Norski

Chick publications? Really?


58 posted on 04/21/2024 1:43:15 AM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("They recognized Him in the breaking of the Bread")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I was never banned or given a timeout. I just woke up one day and thought, “this forum is screwed.” I’m starting to feel that way again real fast.

Take a hike clown.

59 posted on 04/21/2024 2:22:53 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

A TIME article? The same group of gaslighters that had the brazen brass to explain how gross intentional election interference and collusion by traitors in this country “saved” the country in 2020.


60 posted on 04/21/2024 3:34:37 AM PDT by GrumpyOldGuy
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