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New Angle of 2nd Plane Attack on 9/11 (Citizen Free Press - Video was mistakenly marked private for 21 years, no one saw it. Full length version)
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Posted on 09/11/2023 5:09:05 PM PDT by rxsid

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To: rxh4n1

You should understand something.

Some of the posters that have pushed this fringe conspiracy theory have also pushed kook theories that extraterrestrial “med beds” are being sequestered by the government and used by a select few. One has also continuously advocated for the military overthrow of the US Government.

Ignorant, low intellect or malicious intent - take your pick on why they post what they do.


41 posted on 09/12/2023 12:19:21 PM PDT by Fury
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To: rxh4n1

“this is sick”

No this is not sick. 3,000 people died in those explosions it just wasn’t from magic Muslims flying planes like jet aces. It was so much worse.


42 posted on 09/12/2023 1:18:48 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

They found an engine in the street.


43 posted on 09/12/2023 1:24:54 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: Fury

“Ignorant, low intellect or malicious intent - take your pick on why they post what they do.”

“Some people did something” is code for “The Jews did it”. That’s one conspiracy theory, that no Jews showed up for work that day because they knew it was coming. That is malicious. I just learned from this thread there is a theory the planes were holograms. I don’t know if that is malice or lunacy.


44 posted on 09/12/2023 1:29:55 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“No this is not sick. 3,000 people died in those explosions it just wasn’t from magic Muslims flying planes like jet aces. It was so much worse.”

Kindly share what you think it was.


45 posted on 09/12/2023 1:30:48 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1

I think I’ve said it a gazillion times already. You just aren’t ready to believe it.

If you believe the govt would release a clot shot that kills millions why can’t you believe they would blow up 3,000?


46 posted on 09/12/2023 1:33:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: rxh4n1
Kindly share what you think it was.

There's always an excuse. In this case "you just aren't ready".

In other words, they've got nothing but jackassin'.

47 posted on 09/12/2023 1:47:10 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"...how did it penetrate the building and start a fire hot enough to melt steel?"

The shredded fuselage and contents, the engines, and most importantly the jet fuel got inside the building. And it didn't melt the steel, it merely weakened it to the point where it couldn't support the load.

The image expands into a really big picture so you can see details.

So just out of curiosity, what is your theory that takes everything into account?

48 posted on 09/12/2023 3:14:27 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Georgia Girl 2

This might be a helpful link:

https://debunkingnoplanes.blogspot.com/2014/07/911-no-planes-fail-blog-dr-judy-wood.html


49 posted on 09/12/2023 3:20:39 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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50 posted on 09/12/2023 3:32:56 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Well Pete……you’re correct and I agree. That’s weird, eh?
Good post.

I’ll add this just to help…….

Jet fuel burns hotter and long than diesel or gasoline.

It can easily reach temps high enough to melt or catch metal parts on fire.

Many people are unaware that metal can burn, just like wood but it takes very high temps for that to happen…..enter jet fuel.

What is a plane made of, for the most part? Aluminum……aluminum will ignite with much lower temps than steal.

The steal beams probably didn’t catch fire, but there was enough jet fuel, and other forms of fuel (aluminum, office contents, etc.) to keep the fire burning and hot to melt and weaken the support beams.

The explosion on the other side of the buildings hit was the jet fuel lines that ruptured and ignited.

If you ever used gasoline to start a bonfire, (bad idea) you’ll see a POOF! when the gas is lit.

Now imagine a larger scale and more powerful fuel. Plenty to blow out windows and walls on the other side.


51 posted on 09/12/2023 3:41:48 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: PLMerite

There was one engine in the street that did not match the plane that supposedly hit the building. 😮


52 posted on 09/12/2023 5:09:03 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: PLMerite

Nothing helps. Its over. Either you believe 9 rag head Muslims went Batman in civilian airliners and brought down super steel buildings or you believe the US government blew the buildings up. There’s nothing else to believe. Pick your lane.


53 posted on 09/12/2023 5:12:07 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: David Chase

Actually no jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel but termite does.


54 posted on 09/12/2023 5:24:27 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
...planes don’t slice through buildings and eject out the other side. I have stated this numerous times. They are constructed of aluminum.

[...]

Have you ever seen the damage a goose strike does to the nose of an airliner?


Geese are constructed of soft flesh. Have you ever seen the damage a goose strike does to the nose of an airliner? Yes you have, because you told us so.

Planes are constructed of aluminum. Have you ever seen the damage a plane strike does to a building? Yes you have, because you told us so.

You just don't want to believe what you saw. And you don't want the rest of to believe what we all saw either.

55 posted on 09/12/2023 6:56:40 PM PDT by NNN
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To: Georgia Girl 2
G.G. Thermite, which is used to weld steel railroad rails.

Rosie O Donnell believed that the steel burned and melted, but neither you or I or anyone else on this thread believes that. Steel does not need to melt to fail. In this case there was and initial shock of the fully loaded plane striking the building which stressed or cracked welds or bolts that held the junction of the floor trusses to the exterior frame. Steel initially expands when heated longer it is exposed to heat. Fuel did this. After time it begins to soften and deform downward. The floor sags, it pulls on the outside frame inward and it collapses to the center. Like this:

The floor supports were manufactured trusses NOT I beams.

NIST Final report on the Building 7 Collapse

The Plane was the fuel air bomb which caused the explosion. And yes, given enough velocity you can shatter through steel with an aluminum plane.

(Time for supper)

56 posted on 09/12/2023 7:07:38 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“There was one engine in the street that did not match the plane that supposedly hit the building.”

Do you have a cite for that?


57 posted on 09/12/2023 8:32:34 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“...or you believe the US government blew the buildings up.”

Well, that’s a step up from blaming the Mossad.

Any workable theories on exactly “how” the buildings were blown up?


58 posted on 09/12/2023 8:34:05 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You are correct.

However a prolong period of high heat will do the job.

That’s how metal was worked in ancient history. They did not have termite.

I recall the burning smoke coming from the collapsed buildings from the “pit” where they fell went on for more than two weeks.

Everyday I hoped it ended.

That also tells me there was great heat, O2 and a fuel supply from various objects to keep the burning going.

Those are the elements of fire. O2, Heat, and a Fuel (something that burns).
Take away just one of those and the fire dies.

Have a great day young lady.


59 posted on 09/13/2023 8:21:11 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase

I always have a great day. You do the same.


60 posted on 09/13/2023 8:40:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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