Posted on 11/18/2023 3:10:38 PM PST by Retain Mike
“We had no sources inside China’s top bio lab. We apparently have no sources there now.”
Fauxcy KNOWS! Check with him.
I’ll tell you how to fix it. END IT
There is no fixing it. It needs to be ended and then rebuilt.
I would agree.
DO NOT ALLOW Democrats to work in the government.
That is the fix for all our ABC government agency’s
Clearly, the CIA has becomr another earehouse of career civil servants, counting their time with the speed of post-office molasses. There has also formed the mildew of politics, superceding all the known common practices that were nirthed with the inception of the agency.
Sam Faddis Joins WarRoom To Discuss Why The CIA No Longer Works (Oct 26, 2023)
https://rumble.com/v3rv8tm-sam-faddis-joins-warroom-to-discuss-why-the-cia-no-longer-works.html
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Decline and Fall of the CIA (Charles S.(Sam) Faddis)
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As it was, many in the French Resistance were Communists and there was a major Soviet spy ring at the time known to the Nazis as the Red Orchestra. Barbie knew their identities and key parts of those organizational structures and methods of operation. Similarly, Barbie knew who had been in the Nazi SS, secret police, and intelligence service. In the post-war era, they too were security threats because they could be recruited as potential Soviet spies and operatives or could do harm as recalcitrant Nazis.
For those reasons, Barbie was hired, used, and protected by the US as an intelligence asset. Was that wrong? Not in the spy game. And it was by such expedients that the US and the allies managed to keep Europe from falling to the Soviets or Germany from reverting to Nazism. Similarly, as a routine matter and with the approval of courts, dangerous criminals who cooperate are protected from prosecution or given lenient sentences. In a fallen world, it often happens that the only choices are between different degrees of evil.
For the Intel world, incompetence and failure is even more damaging than morally questionable methods or recruitments.
It seems to me the USA alone has a black budget of $50 billion + with very little to show for it.
Add to that the rest of the Five Eyes spending and you have huge surveillance budgets with not a lot of real successes.
When the FBI (and CIA) are only engaged in political revenge and subterfuge NEITHER protects this country, except possibly by happenstance (e.g., tripping over a terrorist).
They began their political corruption in earnest when Jaime Gorelick erected the legal wall between interagency coordination between them - thus contributing to the success of 9/11. It has only gotten worse since then.
Since the intelligence agencies’ operate is secret, the general public is almost entirely unable to make a reasoned judgement about the quality of its work product. The real and larger problem is the deliberate misuse of the intelligence agencies for improper domestic political purposes.
How moronic. If the CIA in its crippled state finds a terrorist, he disappears the moment he enters the country.
“... the general public is almost entirely unable to make a reasoned judgement about the quality of its work product....”
We can see where they dropped the ball with the Afghanistan collapse and the invasion of Ukraine.
And you go back into their history and it is one fiasco after another.
That's the problem...he was "seen" as highly useful, but what useful intelligence did he actually provide this country, in order to overlook the fact that he was a freaking monster? We'll never know, because the government will never allow us to know what any of these monsters they coddled, actually did to defeat the Russians, and communism.
It wasn't until 1989 that the Berlin Wall fell, and 1991, when the U.S.S.R. collapsed. Ronald Reagan, and his policies had more to do with defeating the U.S.S.R. than any crap intelligence these animals provided our intelligence agencies in the previous 40 years. And it didn't stop the eventual spread of communism to this country. All we know is what the CIA and the other agencies have fed us over the years, and you know they would never tell us the truth about any of it.
What’s moronic is to believe that the CIA has the best interests of this country at heart. They are a separate, unaccountable state unto themselves.
We do not know what the CIA told Biden and other policy makers. The CIA is not responsible for the incompetence and poor decisions of the country’s leaders.
JFK knew how to fix it. So they killed him.
Supposedly, the massive intelligence effort by the US and the Five Eyes is highly effective. They cannot be held responsible for bad policies and decisions by US leaders.
They have a track record of publicly confirmed failure as far back as you want.
-surprised by the Korean War
-Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia follies
-surprised by Yom Kippur war
-totally missed the collapse of the Shah
-totally missed the USSR Afghanistan invasion
-wildly overestimated the USSR economy
-911
-”weapons of mass destruction”
-ISIS is a JV Team
-...
As for the CIA's effectiveness in the latter stages of the Cold War, in time, internal intelligence documents and studies get released that allow a qualified assessment. As it happens, under Bill Casey and his successors under Reagan and Bush, the CIA did a fairly good job of helping bring down the USSR.
Most notably, the CIA provided arms to the Afghan resistance and cash and other resources to sustain the anticommunist Solidarity movement in Poland. The CIA also recruited a highly placed Polish military officer, Ryszard Kukliński, whose reporting from 1972 to 1981 yielded 35,000 pages of mostly Soviet secret documents. This provided the US and NATO with an edge in assessing and countering Soviet military readiness and capabilities.
According to Carter's National Security Adviser, Zbigniew Brzeziński, "Kukliński's information permitted us to make counterplans to disrupt command-and-control facilities rather than only relying on a massive counterattack on forward positions, which would have hit Poland."
Like some of the best spies, Kuklinski had a good record and acted from patriotic and moral principles. He and his wife and two sons were exfiltrated by the CIA in late 1981. Kukliński died in a hospital in Tampa in 2004. His remains were eventually repatriated to Poland and reinterred with honors in a military cemetery.
There is a great deal that we do not know, but Congressional oversight seems mostly satisfied that the US gets sufficient value for the cost to maintain the CIA and other spy agencies.
You omit the larger picture, that after the era of satellites and massive electronic surveillance, CIA and other intel analysts looking at the facts usually got things right but the nation’s highest leadership too distorted or disregarded the intelligence. Or, in some cases, the CIA was conned, as it seems to have been by our supposed Saudi allies in the lead up to 9/11 or, as to the size of the Soviet economy, they believed the official Soviet statistics.
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