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The Snowden Effect
Townhall.com ^ | June 14, 2013 | Mark Davis

Posted on 06/14/2013 4:19:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/14/2013 4:19:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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In roughly a hundred days...the bulk of the American population has gone to distrust of the federal government....rather than trust. I don’t see anything being supported much...from immigration reform, to tax reform. Firing people....wont’ change that prospective either.


2 posted on 06/14/2013 4:21:57 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin

If there was any doubt left that the federal government was not our enemy...........


3 posted on 06/14/2013 4:23:27 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey NSA Goon watching FR... Suck this - > |=====>)
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To: Kaslin

Snowden is a nobody. The real story is a massive domestic spying scandal and the utter stupidity that allows thousands of people like Snowden to have access along with unknown numbers of Chinese nationals with that same access.

This get Snowden crap is like bad soviet propaganda.


4 posted on 06/14/2013 4:28:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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5 posted on 06/14/2013 4:31:09 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Kaslin

What it all comes down to is TRUST. As long as people trust in something, Government, patriotism, the dollar, etc. all is fine, but trust has an implicit factor in it, FIRST do no harm to those who trust in you to do the right thing.

Like ALL tools the NSA and their wide gathering of data is trusted not to harm the average citizen of the country. In return they are given willful ignorance and acceptance that the information so gathered will not be used to harm them capriciously. It’s meant to guard us from the Wolves that want to prey upon us.

But also like ALL tools it can be misused and harm the very people who trusted the tool to do only good things. And that’s where we are at now, many if not most people do NOT trust this government and fear that these tools are being used to not protect us from the wolves but to protect the wolves from us and to allow the wolves to prey upon us at their pleasure.


6 posted on 06/14/2013 4:34:13 AM PDT by The Working Man
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This get Snowden crap is like bad soviet propaganda.

Swowden is a media squirrel. Look Squirrel!!!

7 posted on 06/14/2013 4:34:46 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: catfish1957

Anyone that doesn’t thing Snowden was a good thing must be a government troll. I am far more afraid of this government than some supposed terrorist from wherever. Let’s just compare the firepower and influence. Everyday a new story breaks that further makes me ashamed to live in the usa and be a CITIZEN (not that that matters)


8 posted on 06/14/2013 4:35:06 AM PDT by kneehurts
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To: Kaslin

Sometimes we have but one chance to speak up for right. The warnings were there when Bush 2 continued down this slide. It is a terrible burden to carry for the person who has the information Snowden had. I believe his intentions were only honorable and done with every good intention.


9 posted on 06/14/2013 4:37:09 AM PDT by Ramonne
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To: cripplecreek
Well stated. I agree 100%. I wish we could take the narrative away from Snowden and get back on the real issue, “Overreach”.
10 posted on 06/14/2013 4:37:16 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: cripplecreek

“These are not the droids you are looking for, now move along.”

That one movie line is so apropos to the entire litany of scandals we are being barraged with. BENGHAZI is ground zero folks. I would even wager that Snowden is another plant just like Manning, seeing he was at CIA before going over to NSA. People like this would have never gotten close to a comm center much less known where it was when I was a part of the intelligence apparatus. They are the droids, we must endeavor to find out who the droid master are.


11 posted on 06/14/2013 4:38:03 AM PDT by mazda77
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"But Snowden did, and rather than step with courage into an American courtroom to make his case and dare our system to punish him for his perceived heroism,..."

According to official political speech of those who sponsor the media and offer the choices in socialist political candidates of various political parties, he'd have never made it to a courtroom. He'd have been tortured, sodomized and assassinated to the cheers of those sponsors, and it would have all been legal.


12 posted on 06/14/2013 4:39:20 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kaslin
Here’s an idea: How about if we wait for abuse to occur before we lament it?

How are we supposed to know when that abuse has occurred?

13 posted on 06/14/2013 4:39:29 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

There are some other issues about the NSA and alphabet agencies that need to be addressed as well. The fact that this one company that Snowden worked for made some $6 billion off the American taxpayers and has many Chinese nationals working for them that have the same access as Snowden. There are hundreds of companies doing the same all at taxpayer expense.


14 posted on 06/14/2013 4:41:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
"Snowden is a nobody. The real story is a massive domestic spying scandal and the utter stupidity that allows thousands of people like Snowden to have access along with unknown numbers of Chinese nationals with that same access.

This get Snowden crap is like bad soviet propaganda.
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Perfectly said. Good job of blowing the smoke away.


15 posted on 06/14/2013 4:41:39 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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The next act in this charade is the Unbelievably Large Terror Event(s), in which the cry for government to ‘do something’ drown out any analysis of ‘how the hell did this happen?’.

That’s when the IRS and NSA converge, and the circle is complete.

The only question is... how long will it take?


16 posted on 06/14/2013 4:43:26 AM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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I had the very same position as the Patriot Act was being hammered out while smoke still rose from Ground Zero. The deciding factor in my decision to support it was the faith I placed in George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to use that information to catch terrorists without spying on my phone calls and e-mails.

In other words, this hack is perfectly fine with living in a neo-stasi police state but only if the thug ruling it has an R next to his name.

17 posted on 06/14/2013 4:51:38 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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RE :”But Snowden did, and rather than step with courage into an American courtroom to make his case and dare our system to punish him for his perceived heroism, he hunkers in Hong Kong, happy to let its people and its justice system handle his fate.
He is missing out on a certain love-fest he would receive here from Americans more worried about potential Orwellian nightmares than the real threat of Jihad. “

There are merits to both sides of that argument but the real unanswered and un pursued question is : why did Snowden get access to that information in the first place?”
Why did a GED level IT specialist have a ‘need-to-know’ to get access to it anyway?

That is the problem congress should be fixing first.

18 posted on 06/14/2013 4:54:46 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: kneehurts
Then, every year, regular as clockwork, you send in your 1040 to the IRS.

NSA is far less of a threat than the IRS.

19 posted on 06/14/2013 4:59:21 AM PDT by muawiyah (ui)
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To: sickoflibs

Why did Snowden think he had access to ALL the information ~ .... ~ little evidence that he did. Lots of claims but where’s the data?


20 posted on 06/14/2013 5:00:32 AM PDT by muawiyah (ui)
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