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Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years . [ 2013 Benghazi and ]
Investor's Business Dail ^ | 10/29/2013 | EDITORIAL

Posted on 09/26/2021 9:21:26 AM PDT by george76

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To: antidemoncrat

Let’s GO!


21 posted on 09/26/2021 10:34:42 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: rellic

“Ya’ll need to realize that Democrats are not Americans, they are Democrats, so when you elect them you must realize their loyalty is to the party and they will act accordingly.“

+infinity

We really need a “like” button on FR.


22 posted on 09/26/2021 11:00:28 AM PDT by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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To: george76

While we sit and watch


23 posted on 09/26/2021 11:21:37 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: george76

Does Investors Business Daily still have a Conservative editorial page?

I have not seen an IBD editorial posted on Free Republic for a long time.


24 posted on 09/26/2021 11:23:32 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: DoodleDawg
“Is that Milley’s excuse?”

Milley is a woke, liberal general so he may no longer even be making excuses; just doing what seems best for him to do at the moment.

I certainly don't remember reading of Milley justifying his actions in any meaningful sense of the word.

25 posted on 09/26/2021 11:24:21 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jcon40

And now we have a defense bill with “red flag” laws for the military, and provisions banning 5th Amendment protections for them at courts martial. The SecDef’s plan to root out and fire white and otherwise “extremist” members is now free to roll, continuing the obama war on the US military.


26 posted on 09/26/2021 12:13:42 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: jeffersondem
I certainly don't remember reading of Milley justifying his actions in any meaningful sense of the word.

You don't think Milley thought his actions were legal? And justifiable?

27 posted on 09/26/2021 12:20:54 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
“You don't think Milley thought his actions were legal? And justifiable?”

I'm not sure which actions you are referencing.

There is a report that Milley secretly contacted the Red Chinese and told them he would let them know in advance of any military action the U.S. was taking against them.

Further, it is reported the Commander-In-Chief did not know of Milley’s commitment to the Red Chinese.

If Milley thought his actions were legal and proper I don't see why he would keep them secret. Milley could have locked-in the covenant by announcing it publicly. But maybe not.

For some reason, Milley wanted our nuclear-armed adversaries to have more knowledge about the status or U.S. forces than his own countrymen.

28 posted on 09/26/2021 12:59:13 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Everyone he hired has to be purged.

29 posted on 09/26/2021 1:23:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: jeffersondem
If Milley thought his actions were legal and proper I don't see why he would keep them secret.

Reportedly his peers in the Pentagon knew about it. Esper knew about it before he was fired. That doesn't sound secret to me.

For some reason, Milley wanted our nuclear-armed adversaries to have more knowledge about the status or U.S. forces than his own countrymen.

So you think that the average American should know all there is to know about what's going on in the Pentagon? Or are you referring to that select group that Milley felt he needed to keep in the dark?

30 posted on 09/26/2021 1:58:15 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

It doesn’t matter what Milley thought. His actions were treasonous.


31 posted on 09/26/2021 2:29:50 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: DoodleDawg
“Or are you referring to that select group that Milley felt he needed to keep in the dark?”

Now you have my interest. Just who was the “select group” you mention?

32 posted on 09/26/2021 3:31:55 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Bull Snipe

In Star Trek The Next Generation tv show almost all the admirals that Picard had to deal with were snippy women.


33 posted on 09/26/2021 3:49:49 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: jeffersondem
Now you have my interest. Just who was the “select group” you mention?

Trump and his inner circle. Haven't you been reading the accounts?

34 posted on 09/26/2021 4:40:36 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
“Trump and his inner circle (were the select group from whom Milley was keeping secrets.)”

If what you say is true then Milley was disobeying Trump orders - unless Trump ordered Milley to keep important secrets from him (Trump). That last part seems unlikely.

That leads me to conclude Milley did not meet the DD test for subordinate conduct: “Right or wrong, the president is entitled to generals and admirals who obey the orders of the commander in chief.”

35 posted on 09/26/2021 5:22:59 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
If what you say is true then Milley was disobeying Trump orders - unless Trump ordered Milley to keep important secrets from him (Trump). That last part seems unlikely.

Which brings us back to your original comment, posted oh so long ago. Orders are to be obeyed, unless they are illegal and then must be disobeyed. If Milley disobeyed orders then was it because he believed them to be illegal and felt duty bound to disobey them? And if that is the case then to you support Milley's decision.

That leads me to conclude Milley did not meet the DD test for subordinate conduct: “Right or wrong, the president is entitled to generals and admirals who obey the orders of the commander in chief.

Unless, of course, Milley met the JD criteria for disobeying orders. Is that the case?

36 posted on 09/27/2021 3:53:36 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: zeestephen

Looks like IBD editorials ended a few years a ago.


37 posted on 09/27/2021 6:19:05 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: DoodleDawg; DiogenesLamp; rustbucket; woodpusher; Pelham; central_va; BroJoeK
“Which brings us back to your original comment, posted oh so long ago. Orders are to be obeyed, unless they are illegal and then must be disobeyed.”

Jeffersondem’s well-crafted post was made in the context of your hastily written comment endorsing uncritically, perhaps unwittingly, conventional wisdom: “Right or wrong, the president is entitled to generals and admirals who obey the orders of the commander in chief.”

The controversy over obedience to authority has been an ongoing debate, and I don't mean just in 20th century Europe.

So much so that the Man himself had to set the thing straight: “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's.”

For those that still respect the Declaration of Independence, like Jeffersondem, they believe the Founding Fathers worked through the obedience issues beautifully and beneficially.

Now, about Mr. Milley. He was wrong to apologize for being seen on the street with his commander in chief when President Trump paid respect to that racially integrated church which hours earlier has been subject to a firebombing attack by night-riders.

President Trump did a lesser wrong by not firing Milley for politicizing the president's courtesy call. Had President Trump taken that precaution, Mr. Milley would not have been in a position to give so much war materiel to terrorists, or to make secret covenants with the Red Chinese.

38 posted on 09/27/2021 11:11:48 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: DPMD

When the rubber meets the road, there is fragging.


39 posted on 05/20/2023 4:05:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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