Posted on 11/11/2005 4:47:36 PM PST by Wolfstar
You can pick your nose but you cannot pick your relatives especially your ancestors.. Some gene pools have been pee'ed in.. possibly ALL gene pools have been pee'ed in..
No, I lurk on your threads. Whenever you guys run out of argument, then you accuse every single person of lying. It can be a preacher, a little homemaker from Kentucky who wouldn't lie if she had a mouthful, or it can be God Himself. They all lie. You guys though are paragons of virtue.
Why not-don't expect creation to be perfectly self correcting when it is not functioning in it's originally intended realm.all of creation groans under the weight of sin in the world.
Thank you so very much, Tom Bombadil. This is exactly the kind of information I hoped to obtain. I must say that I don't understand your first paragraph; not due to the way it was written, but to my own lack of a scientific education. Is there a way you can explain it for a layman?
Does the existence of birth defects prove that any potential designer wasn't very intelligent? Good question. Does the existence of death do the same thing?
I chose birth defects with which to frame my question, but your question about the existence of death -- even the existence of so many ways to die -- is also pertinent.
Thank you, heartwood. I wasn't. You're question, "Why were they created to die so soon," is heartbreaking. What I was hoping is that people who believe in ID could explain their point of view about such tragedies in the context of the theory.
Why don't you just ping heartwood and ask her whether she or her parents or grandparents engaged in "long term inbreeding and incest... or chronic drug abuse including alcohol"?
Since sins only affect us unto the third or fourth generation, it shouldn't be hard to track down.
Who is not motivated by religion? Why should perjury be considered "interesting?" Like birth defects, it is a sad fact of life. Maybe you consider it "interesting" to gaze upon open wounds. Maybe you like to roll around in other people's lies like a pig in filth. You may think yourself above perjury, and maybe you are. But you are not above death itself. Unless, of course, you are morally perfect from birth.
There is no standard of morality anyone can hold an athiest to.
/there's something really wrong with you
Why do these scientists think we should take them seriously when they reveal their hypocrisy in their own statements. If it's a sin, then they accept an objective moral standard outside themselves such as God. But if they did accept God then they would value life as a creation in the image of God. So these scientists are hypocrites from the very start.
The scientist's concerns about the "quality" of our children is just a code phrase for genetic selections. the problem is, whose genetic ideal is to be followed? Clearly Hitler lead the way in their mindset with the pure Aryan race and his efforts to pay attention to the "quality" of our children. These scientists are nothing more than latter day Nazis at heart...but would rather couch their bigotry as concern.
Not a challenge, but a legitimate attempt to understand: Does the ID theory hold that what we may see as deformities or flaws are not really flaws at all, but merely a means to instruct us in our limitations?
Scientists are not more truthful than other people because they are better people, but because they face a 100 percent chance of being caught, at least in their professional lives.
I am merely one of the several volunteer custodians of that daily thread.
You lie in stating you are "amused." You are angry at the slightest suggestion you may be morally inferior to anyone but yourself. The grave is not an "implied" threat. Ask Adam. Ask anyone. Or do you have a doctor who with the answer to all birth defects?
Ok, Then I have this to add; to those who believe in GOD,there is more than enough evidense for HIM. For those who do not believe; there is never will be enough evidense, for them to believe.
I for one have to believe, my son has taught me that. :)
I have no hope of being able to understand how we got here. But maybe the real question is, why are we here? If we are here to make money and collect toys, then no amount of discussion about the Big Bang or evolution has any meaning because we are only the product of the material world and cease to exist when we die.
However, put yourself in the place of an all-powerful Being. If you wanted to send your children to a school where they would develop and grow, would you put them in a soft, protective environment, or rather a place where they would be challenged? Maybe the whole purpose of tragedy is our reaction to it.
TN4Liberty, you really shouldn't go about calling someone a liar when you don't have any reason to do so.
I am very interested in exploring the concept of intelligent design. How can it's proponents hope to gain wide acceptance of the theory without being prepared to discuss and explain it cooly and rationally?
I have no practical way of separating actual Christians from hypocrites. In my experience the public profession of faith is not an indicator of trustworthiness.
Then let the fight begin here. I will defend my family to the death of many of those who will try to condem my son & family!
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