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Ann Coulter weighs in on Darwinism
uncommondescent.com ^ | William Dembski

Posted on 04/27/2006 8:01:57 AM PDT by Tribune7

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To: swmobuffalo; Ichneumon
Perhaps after you read ALL of this and digest it, you might begin to understand my "evidence". If not, oh well.

Is this scientific evidence, or...

821 posted on 04/28/2006 8:16:00 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: metmom
"I couldn't have dismissed your evidence offhand before I saw it because I didn't know you were going to use an *opinion* poll as evidence."

Sure you did. What other source would there have been for how people think? A household by household census-survey? Hate to break it to you, but that would NOT have been more accurate, just more expensive. You asked sarcastically for information to back up my claim; I gave it, and it made you look like a fool. S

Again, the polls, like all polls, are not perfect. But these polls didn't have to be; they overwhelming show that most people who accept evolution are Christian. They could be off by a good percentage and STILL it would back up my claim. There is no indication or reason to believe they are off by anything but the smallest amount though.
822 posted on 04/28/2006 8:53:49 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Sam Hill
So, when challenged to justify some idiotic claims about a Hitler speech in 1922, you post a OSS propaganda document from 23 years later. Yeah, Christians were the real victims of the Nazis.

Go snuggle up with your pal David Irving.

823 posted on 04/28/2006 8:59:15 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: PatrickHenry
Whatcha gonna do? Support the Constitution, or a royal charter from 1620?

Ahhh, the straws some people grasp at. Its one of the reasons I enjoy these threads.

824 posted on 04/28/2006 9:03:32 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Right Wing Professor

"a OSS propaganda document from 23 years later."

"Go snuggle up with your pal David Irving."

You are a real pig. I am reporting you for abuse, you asshole.

God help your students, if you really are a professor. (Which I hope is another one of your fantasies.)


825 posted on 04/28/2006 9:06:55 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
You claimed that Hitler's speech of 12 April 1922 was 'sarcastic'. I challenged you to back up that claim. You didn't. Why not?

And tell me, what in Hitler's speech of 12 April 1922 was different in any respect from what Martin Luther preached in 'The Jews and their Lies'? Lose the distractions, and answer the questions.

826 posted on 04/28/2006 9:08:41 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Coyoteman

"Is this scientific evidence, or..."

Yes and no. It does however explain my viewpoint alittle better regarding my statement of "open your eyes and look around".


828 posted on 04/28/2006 9:10:31 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Sam Hill; Right Wing Professor

"You are a real pig. I am reporting you for abuse, you asshole."

Certainly qualifies for one of the most ironic posts of the year.


829 posted on 04/28/2006 9:14:07 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Just mythoughts
The pretender was NOT EVER nor willl he EVER be born of woman.

Yes, but how many "prentenders" are there? More than two?

830 posted on 04/28/2006 9:15:16 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Sam Hill
You are a real pig. I am reporting you for abuse, you asshole.

Oh, but I was just being 'sarcastic'. Couldn't you tell?

831 posted on 04/28/2006 9:16:21 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
She also claims there were really TWO Adams in Genesis

I thought it was more than two.

832 posted on 04/28/2006 9:18:27 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: RightWingNilla

"I thought it was more than two."

A whole Adam's Family.


833 posted on 04/28/2006 9:20:50 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

The Root of All Evil?

Episode 1: The God Delusion | Episode 2: The Virus of Faith

How is it, asks [arch-darwinist] Richard Dawkins, that despite science having exposed old religious myths, militant faith is back on the march? The mechanism for perpetuating beliefs that Dawkins describes as leading to murderous intolerance, is by imposing religion on children who are too inexperienced to judge it for themselves

We wouldn't categorise children according to their parents' political stance, says Dawkins, since they are too young to make up their minds about such matters. But we segregate them in sectarian religious schools, where they are taught superstitions drawn from ancient scriptures of dubious origin, which promote a 'contradictory and poisonous system of morals'.

From generation to generation

[Arch-darwinist]Dawkins compares this to a virus, which infects the young and is passed down the generations. Visiting an ultra-orthodox Jewish school, he describes the British-born headteacher Rabbi Gluck's Yiddish accent as testament to the isolation of his community. Gluck says that it's important for members of minorities to have the space to express their own beliefs and traditions. He describes science as one tradition, and Judaism as another. His students are taught about evolution and if only a minority end up believing in it, he says, this is not out of ignorance.

The number of faith schools is increasing. More than half the Government's proposed City Academies will be run by religious organisations and there's a growing number of private evangelical Christian schools. ACE – Accelerated Christian Education – has developed a curriculum which includes a mention of God or Jesus on every page of its science text book. The head of a school which uses this material argues that if there were no lawgiver, there would be no reason to see rape and murder as wrong.

Hellfire and damnation

Transmitting such a 'warped reality' to young people, says [arch-darwinist] Dawkins, amounts to indoctrination. Children are uniquely vulnerable and if they fail to question and shake off such superstition, they remain in a state of perpetual infancy. He talks to a woman brought up in a strict Christian sect who describes the terror of eternal damnation, which dominated her childhood, as a form of abuse.

Hellhouse movies are a new growth industry in the USA today. Graphically filmed, they demonise abortion and homosexuality with the explicit aim of scaring the viewers. Pastor Keenan Roberts explains that the aim is 'to leave an indelible impression on their lives that sin destroys … and Jesus saves'. The result, says [arch-darwinist] Dawkins, is a mindset which can justify the murder of a doctor who carries out abortions on the grounds that he is destroying a being created in God's image!

Innate morality

Physicist and Nobel prizewinner [arch-darwinist] Stephen Weinberg describes religion as an insult to human dignity. 'Without it,' he says, 'you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion.' [Arch-darwinist] Dawkins agrees. It is more moral, he says, to do good for its own sake than out of fear. Morality, he says, is older than religion, and kindness and generosity are innate in human beings, as they are in other social animals. The irony is that science recognises the majesty and complexity of the universe while religions lead to easy, closed answers.

Is there no more than just this life? asks [arch-darwinist] Richard Dawkins. How much more do you want? We are lucky to be here, he says, and we should make the most of our time on this world.

(My point in posting this left wing atheist mind manure isn't to start a debate on the points raised, but to call attention to the fact that darwinists constantly make faith claims masquerading as science. But darwinist faith claims are blessed, subsidized, and enforced by the state.)

834 posted on 04/28/2006 9:22:00 PM PDT by JCEccles (Kitzmiller Syndrome: anger and paranoia that someone is harboring critical thoughts about darwinism.)
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To: JCEccles
Yes, we already know Dawkins doesn't like religion.

So?
835 posted on 04/28/2006 9:25:06 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: swmobuffalo
"Is this scientific evidence, or..."

Yes and no. It does however explain my viewpoint alittle better regarding my statement of "open your eyes and look around".

Appreciate your response. I see where you are coming from.

However, adapting the trappings of science (or any other field) does not constitute doing that science.

It still appears you are coming from a religious viewpoint, not a scientific one.

836 posted on 04/28/2006 9:25:47 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: metmom
metmom

I don’t know about this poll but I did read about one of the polls concerning evo. And it turns out in that poll that a scientist could even be a high school teacher. Actually I can’t say that I disagree with that, for some scientists probably have taught high school sometime.

But what is glaringly obvious YOA are the contortions and contradictions as far as who is a qualified scientist etc when it comes to adopting toe or rejecting it. Apparently even a Noble prize winner in Physics can have nothing to say opposing evo because he is not qualified, but half of America/whatever> can be for it, go figure.

In any event this poll really tells nothing other than /drum roll audience gasp> some people that identify themselves as Christian have been seduced and deluded by a falsehood.

And even true Christians are not super powerful beings that cannot be seduced or mislead, no not at all. I think the Bible probably has something to say about that too.

Well I guess us dummies will just have to sit here with our thinking caps on, and wait for these mental giants to edumacate us.., hmm.

Oh metmom boohoo boohoo, they said you are illiterate and ignorant what shall you do metmom?

Wolf
837 posted on 04/28/2006 9:27:23 PM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: JCEccles
"My point in posting this left wing atheist mind manure isn't to start a debate on the points raised,..."

Because you would lose...

"but to call attention to the fact that darwinists constantly make faith claims masquerading as science."

Sorry, Dawkins was talking philosophy, not science. It's possible for people, scientists, to hold positions that are outside of science.

"But darwinist faith claims are blessed, subsidized, and enforced by the state."

Utter crap.
838 posted on 04/28/2006 9:27:38 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Ichneumon

L O L, L O L, busy busy little fingers......


839 posted on 04/28/2006 9:28:50 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Coyoteman

"religious viewpoint, not a scientific one."

I suppose it seems that way. I understand the workings of science as do many of the scientists who have come to the conclusion that it all just "didn't happen", the happening had help.


840 posted on 04/28/2006 9:31:00 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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