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Dinosaur Shocker (YEC say dinosaur soft tissue couldn’t possibly survive millions of years)
Smithsonian Magazine ^ | May 1, 2006 | Helen Fields

Posted on 05/01/2006 8:29:14 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: BrandtMichaels
OK - public school is good in your opinion b/c they teach evolution. How do you feel about the homosexual agenda in public schools? And are you aware that government-controlled schools are one of the 10 planks of communism?

Oh boy... my kids are going to a private school for their middle school years because the middle school here is very bad. The reason they will be going to public school next year is the public high school is actually rather good.

Now having said that, how do I feel about the homosexual agenda in school? Hate it. Next question.

Am I aware that government controlled schools are one of the 10 planks of communism? Um... yes I am. Does that mean that my particular public school is promoting communism? Um... no I am afraid it doesn't. How do I know this? Because my nephew (I am his guardian) is in 11th grade at the high school and we talk alot about what the teachers' agenda are. I know for a fact that his "humanities" teacher is a certifiable leftist but oddly enough has been rather good about promoting debate in school both for and against various left and right idealogies.

A funny thing I might mention is that his guidance councelor is a certifiable right winger. He has pics of Reagan, Bush Sr and Jr. all over his office. You want to talk about a double take when I first met him. I was surprised to see that in a public high school.

321 posted on 05/01/2006 2:02:02 PM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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Shocked placemark


322 posted on 05/01/2006 2:05:28 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A dying theory since 1859.)
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To: 2nsdammit; mlc9852; DaveLoneRanger
If humans are "special" how come we share 98% of our genes with Chimpanzees?

Bingo! Scientific theories can have consequences outside of science. And some wonder why Creationists have such a big problem with evolutionary theory, as though we're all just morons stumbling in the dark, on the way to the seance.

It isn't the fossil record, radiometric dating methods, or genetic evidence that some take issue with necessarily. Perhaps there's more to it; perhaps they've caught on to the idea of things Darwinian as a "universal acid."
323 posted on 05/01/2006 2:07:19 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Are Marxist academics and apostate bishops trustworthy enough to tell you who the "real" Jesus is?)
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To: DocRock

this is great


324 posted on 05/01/2006 2:08:33 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: mlc9852
What is your point?

Is one needed?

325 posted on 05/01/2006 2:10:27 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Das Outsider
Bingo! Scientific theories can have consequences outside of science

So you disagree with the scientific finding that we share 98% of our genes with chimpanzees?

326 posted on 05/01/2006 2:10:32 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: mlc9852

"Better"? I don't know... How do you define "better"? We certainly appear to be more intelligent, with larger brains, a more highly developed language skill, etc. Certainly different.


I don't know the % difference between humans and pigs, but what does that have to do with anything? I suspect it is fairly high (+95%?), since we are both mammals, and share the common mammalian ancestry back a few million years.


327 posted on 05/01/2006 2:10:58 PM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: music_code

If it suggests a common creator, then it suggests a lazy one, or one without much imagination. Or perhaps it suggests a creator who deliberately deceives - is that any better?


328 posted on 05/01/2006 2:12:46 PM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: Das Outsider
Bingo! Scientific theories can have consequences outside of science.

So what? The fact that there are consequences doesn't invalidate the theory or supporting evidence.

329 posted on 05/01/2006 2:14:54 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: hurly
I saw those footprints a couple of weeks ago. I also recommend Hammond's BBQ for good, reasonable priced BBQ in Glen Rose (my bona fides.)

The park at Glen Rose is nice. The paleontologists have used forensic techniques (just like on "Forensic Files" or "Cold Case Files" or in the textbooks) to analyze the footprint evidence. One can see the tracks of a hard of vegetarians running from some carnivores.

No blood-spatter nor blunt objects or shell casings though; just footprints; none of them human.

330 posted on 05/01/2006 2:20:17 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: SirLinksalot
But DNA, which carries the genetic script for an animal, is a very fragile molecule.

No it isn't, the opposite is true. DNA reacts only with itself, and does not easily breakdown, which is why it is suitable for carrying genetic code.

331 posted on 05/01/2006 2:21:38 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Chiapet

The Roman Empire survived many centuries with an 8-day week and a horrible calender system. So to the Incas.

The Mayans did well with two weeks of 13 or 20 days, seeming used simultaneously.


332 posted on 05/01/2006 2:24:05 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: jec41
Can't decide if the creationists are creating a belief of God or God created the belief of the creationists.

Given the diversity of opinions, the former may be the best bet.

333 posted on 05/01/2006 2:25:16 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: jec41
Can't decide if the creationists are creating a belief of God or God created the belief of the creationists.

Given the diversity of opinions, the former may be the best bet.

334 posted on 05/01/2006 2:25:22 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: jec41

I remember (before his Nobel Prize), when Hayek was considered a conservative economist. Now he's just a free-enterprise economist.


335 posted on 05/01/2006 2:30:43 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Right Wing Professor; GourmetDan; ahayes

Rocks are, typically, porous, but not so much clays and shales are only slightly so. Putrescine is found in all cells and especially bacteria. The presence of putrescine does not mean that the sample is either old or young. As an amine it would have a long half life under anaerobic conditions and may be therefore quite old (yes that could be millions of years), but it could also be quite young if there is significant ground water and something for bacteria to chew on, because the porosity of rocks, especially sandstones and limestones allows not only liquid organics to penetrate but also bacteria. It may only be a week old. Indeed if the material is "floating" on water, like most pertoleum deposits, then it could have been formed anywhere and at any time and just migrated to its present position, the same as liquid hydrocarbons. The presence of coal nearby is also a possible source of biogenic putrescine.

So..... I guess your are all right.


336 posted on 05/01/2006 2:39:14 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: R_Kangel
”Is there any way we can clone these cells to reproduce the animal?

I for one would like to see a park dedicated to cloned species of such animals.

Dr. Schweitzer says, ‘no’.

I personally believe we could after about 20 years of research. In the end I don’t believe it would be a ‘clone’ it would be more of a hybrid of something else.

337 posted on 05/01/2006 2:40:43 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: furball4paws

lol It's always the most fun when everyone can be right.


338 posted on 05/01/2006 2:42:22 PM PDT by ahayes (Yes, I have a devious plot. No, you may not know what it is.)
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To: trashcanbred

This is really meant for all you proponents of TOE:

I can agree with micro-evolution. But macro-evolution is such a whopper. I asked earlier about language evolution.

Does it not strike any of you as a little odd that mankind is the only species with several complex languages while no
other species shows anything close?

Maybe you noticed several other areas unique to mankind?
art, literature, music, spirituality, abstract thought,
increased knowledge and abilities, (the list is longer than I care to define...)
Why are these also completely lacking in the animal kingdom?


339 posted on 05/01/2006 2:48:48 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: ahayes

But it also means that you are all probably wrong - it's just not nice to say that.


340 posted on 05/01/2006 2:49:26 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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