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American Idol 2006--Live Thread (Part III)
Fox ^ | 5-8-06

Posted on 05/08/2006 4:22:13 AM PDT by silent_jonny

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To: Netizen
I think it was pretty much pushed on her and she didn't want to continue with it. This supposedly was the reason he divorced her. But she's apparently gone back to the catholic church AND has Keith Urban, so I guess she got the better deal by far. LOL. I just don't think Katie has the backbone Nicole probably does and is more "manageable" if you know what I mean. He has said their children (his & Nicole's)WILL BE raised scientologists. Sounds like a mess.

Just a few pages and it was easy to see what it really is. Hard to believe people fall for it. I'm afraid unless Katie's parents accept the scientology "stuff" there's going to be a huge rift between them and their daughter. Unless she opens her eyes. He wouldn't even let her parents see their grandchild unless he was there. Not a good sign.

10,541 posted on 05/26/2006 2:40:15 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (...heavy strings, tune low, play hard and floor it. Floor it. That's technical talk....)
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To: SirLinksalot
That's a riot!

But no other work was needed on Kevin. His great response to Moe when he made the final 12, "I wasn't expecting much from you anyway", is totally becaue Kevin is a New Yorker, and knows how to face down a sarcastic Brit.

Love it!

10,542 posted on 05/26/2006 2:48:58 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: EmilyGeiger

I know what you mean. Some don't even waant to give him a chance. I guess they think this country is run by 12 year olds.


10,543 posted on 05/26/2006 2:52:29 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Jessica24

I wonder how many times "Do I Make You Proud" will be played at high school and college graduations in the near future? The song's not great but it's growing on me.


10,544 posted on 05/26/2006 2:55:08 PM PDT by Jen (Soul Patrol!)
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To: Sue Perkick
Unless she opens her eyes. He wouldn't even let her parents see their grandchild unless he was there. Not a good sign.

Exactly. The brainwashing and mega control has already started. Her folks need to have a serious talk with her. There will be a rift but TC will be causing it. I'm not sure her folks are going to give in so easy. No good is going to come from that relationship, sadly.

10,545 posted on 05/26/2006 2:55:50 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Jen

Probably not at all because it is a poorly written song.


10,546 posted on 05/26/2006 2:56:03 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Jen

Maybe they can make a "DIMYP"/"Unwritten" medley that will be required for every graduation in the country this year. Hey, it's better than that Vitamin C "Graduation" song. I graduated high school in 1999, so guess what our song was? I'm so sad Prince didn't perform that this week.

No, the song isn't great. It's god-awful. I have no excuse for liking it as much as I do.


10,547 posted on 05/26/2006 3:07:08 PM PDT by Jessica24
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To: Netizen
Re the snip from Katharine's post-show interview, most of us picked up on that shallow self-centeredness. There's an empty, plastic quality in her that probably is suitable for the empty, plastic times in which we live. But I'm glad to see that millions of people want something more real.

For what it's worth, I think the ONLY thing that got her so far is her looks. There are plenty of people around with voices fine voices, but whose looks are a barrier to them making it in show biz. In fact, that's exactly why Taylor didn't make it earlier even though pros in the business recognized his vocal talent.

Here's an excerpt from an article on Hits Daily Double (have to register there to read it). It's by Don VanCleave of the Coalition of Independent Music Stores. He talks about how he knew -- and rejected -- Taylor, and the reasons why:

AN AMERICAN IDOL UNSUNG IN HIS HOMETOWN
Taylor Hicks Labored on the Birmingham Scene for 10 Long Years Before Anyone Noticed
May 25, 2006

About this time last year, Taylor Hicks sent us his new CD. "Please check it out dude." OK man. After a listen or two, it went in the big "I listened to it and I promise I did not throw it away, but it is gonna just sit there" stack. It was a decent enough effort, but we get tons of those. >b>How was I supposed to help a thick-looking dude with white hair?

In June, we have City Stages in Birmingham. It is our local festival. Reg and I have been very involved since day one. Taylor and his band were to appear on the "Locals Only" stage. He called multiple times to see if we had listened to the CD. I was busy and avoided most of the calls. When I did talk to him, he lobbied me to come see his set at the festival. So, I dropped by and caught a few songs. I thought the guy had a really good voice, but I could barely watch his stage antics. Man, that dude is afflicted with something. You know, whatever that muscular thing is that possesses Joe Cocker.

Later that day, I ran into Taylor and he asked if I saw the set. I was polite, but got out of there quick. Not long after, Taylor just showed up at the office. We like to hide and don't want local musicians just dropping by. We are total snobs about that. We would never get any work done otherwise. Taylor goes running from office to office asking Reg, Jill and finally me what I thought about him and how could we help him get hooked up. Andrea, my assistant at the time, got up from her perch, took Taylor by the arm and said, "Dude, you need to leave" and that was the last I heard from him. We spent the rest of the day talking about aggressive this guy could be. NO was not an answer ever.

A few months later, Reg came storming into my office and spewed, "Check this sh#t out. Taylor Hicks is in a serious run in the American Idol prelims." Wow, that is crazy!

This guy is 29 years old and does not look like an artist that would ever get a record deal. I know dozens of A&R guys. NONE of them would have given Taylor Hicks the time of day a year ago. He is neither young enough nor skinny enough. He has grey hair and is about as goofy as it gets on stage. Normally he would be a total non-starter in this business.

Being one of those people who would not really give this guy any serious time, I wish him only the best in the final round. I hope he gets everything coming to him. He has been slogging it out in bad bars around here for 10 years and never gave up. If he wins, I hope he is very successful.

If Katharine, whose main assest is the accident of good genes, goes are around whining and trashing Taylor, I hope it hurts her budding career. Taylor has paid his dues and then some, and he won AI by a big margin. It's nice to see the public choose real over plastic for a change.

10,548 posted on 05/26/2006 3:19:20 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar
I had just finished reading that article elsewhere. Almost posted it. Good thing I didn't we'd have cross posted! lol

Sad thing about that letter, you almost expect to see 'And we could have been a part of his success', but nope, they didn't get him then and they don't get him now.

What's taking so long with that first album! LOL :)

10,549 posted on 05/26/2006 3:26:08 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Netizen
Sad thing about that letter, you almost expect to see 'And we could have been a part of his success', but nope, they didn't get him then and they don't get him now.

One of the best things about AI is that many music industry execs are being shown for the dunces they really are. They shoved rap at us, and all the pop-tarts like Britney Spears, and boy band scrounges like Justin Timberlake. But thank goodness there are still a lot of people around who appreciate real music.

10,550 posted on 05/26/2006 3:31:07 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Wolfstar

Great article! Sounds like Simon Cowell speaking. It seems like Simon tried to sabotage Taylor Hicks throughout the entire competition. Finally, at the end , when it was obvious he was the top contender, he "changed his mind" about Taylor.


Why is he choosing music for the American public?

He also told Chris Daughtry that he had no star potential and tried to stop him from going to Hollywood.


10,551 posted on 05/26/2006 3:31:42 PM PDT by floridaobserver
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To: floridaobserver
Why is he choosing music for the American public?

I've wondered that for a long time now.

10,552 posted on 05/26/2006 3:36:31 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: Jessica24

"With permission to be bitchy... More fun with Kat"

May I play too? The next morning Kat was on Ryan Seacrest's radio program. He asked her if she was interested in anyone romantically...She said yes Ryan I like you. He ignored her and asked her if there were any of the Idol men she was interested in..pperhaps Elliott. She shrieked like she had been scalded..No ! Next he asked her about the possibility of being attracted to Taylor. Once again she groaned and said No way. What a conceited little witch. She should be so lucky to be in the same league as either of those two gentlemen.


10,553 posted on 05/26/2006 3:38:40 PM PDT by heylady
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To: Wolfstar

I bet this jerk is kicking himself from here to kingdom come. How many Taylor Hicks are out there? It's a shame that talent is the last thing that is considered now.

I read that the homecoming response blew TPTB away at how Taylor was received like a major rock star. The preorder sales of DIMYP rose from 3016 to 2 in less than 48 hours at amazon and is I think around number 5 at B&N.


10,554 posted on 05/26/2006 3:47:35 PM PDT by CajunConservative (~~WHOO~~ Soul Patrol! Do It Baby! Soul Patrol!)
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To: Wolfstar
All evidence of a powerful marketing machine running behind you, imo. Smells like exactly what I have been reading with Hear Music success stories.

So Elliott has really no chance of ever making something and having it sell, because by all accounts he spurns the committment to such marketing giants.

Another ADD light of brilliance is slowly dimmed to dark by lack of focus. How sad.

I am glad Taylor was able to put his talent to good use and will make a career from it. I suspect we will never really hear much from Elliott, so I am glad to have the music I do!

10,555 posted on 05/26/2006 3:50:08 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Wolfstar
Here's a pic of the pr*ck.

Industry Profile: Don Van Cleave

10,556 posted on 05/26/2006 3:57:08 PM PDT by CajunConservative (~~WHOO~~ Soul Patrol! Do It Baby! Soul Patrol!)
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To: CajunConservative
And he's worried about Taylor's looks?
10,557 posted on 05/26/2006 4:12:50 PM PDT by Netizen (Taylor--he sings, writes his own songs, plays instruments, has charisma, and he's the whole package.)
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To: heylady

The rumor is Tom Cruise wants Katherine to sing at his wedding to Katie Holmes....


10,558 posted on 05/26/2006 4:14:29 PM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: Wolfstar

Nice article. Thanks for posting that. And I agree about Katharine. She's causing me to lose any good will I may of had for her with her constant blathering.


10,559 posted on 05/26/2006 4:21:16 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: CajunConservative
Have you heard this story?

Taylor Hicks Thanks Katrina for American Idol Win

BURBANK, Calif. (AP) - Taylor Hicks is still basking in the limelight. Appearing last night on NBC's "Tonight Show," he told Jay Leno that he has Hurricane Katrina to thank for his "American Idol" win.

The Birmingham crooner said he got one of the last taxis out of New Orleans as Hurricane Katrina was about to hit. He says after a 15-hour ride he ended up at the airport in Monroe.

Hicks says his airline offered him a free ticket anywhere in the U.S. Taylor said he chose Las Vegas on a whim, because he had never been there before.

It was in Vegas that he auditioned for Idol and says it was fate that took him there.

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=4953827
10,560 posted on 05/26/2006 4:23:13 PM PDT by LA Woman3
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