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So You Really Think Soccer Blows?
9. June 2006 | 1rudethug

Posted on 06/09/2006 8:56:48 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

So you Think Soccer Sucks?

Fine. I am honestly surprised that you could find the energy to type it, or its equivalent. I am not surprised that you are probably the same person complaining that soccer is being “rammed down your throat,” or other such nonsense.

Do you realize how silly you sound? In what sort of universe can a professional sport, any professional sport, be forced upon anyone? Just turn off the sports media. That enough should be understandable to every member of this website, even the re-treads, trolls, disruptors, and shills.

But we need to get a few things straight. Above all else, your team is playing in the largest tournament on the face of our planet. That’s right, your team. Your other teams, be they named Penske, Padres, or Packers, do not perform on such a stage. A Packer fan may tell a Bear fan that his team sucks. The Bear fan will reply in kind. Such is the nature of rivalry. But try and explain to me that soccer is a wussy sport when I see the following:

Mexican fan: Your team sucks.
U.S.A. fan: Soccer is ghey.

Oh yeah, that’s real testosterone on display. Chicks dig a competitor.

If you cannot bring yourself to cheer for or even defend your own country, then how about shutting the heck up. If you cannot bring yourself to shut the heck up, then walk into a stadium full of English, German, or Dutch fans, stand up, and shout the same out loud. But please try those fans first. Other countries’ fans may mistakenly deliver you to a painless death. Drink a beer or two if it makes you brave. Remember that there will always be someone braver than you.

I don’t want to hear about how soccer is a “socialist” sport. It’s insulting. To your intelligence. I don’t care to talk about restrictor-plates, revenue-sharing, anti-trust exemptions, or the Fair Catch Rule, whose very name suggests wine spritzers and flower arrangements. Please understand this is not about the superiority of one sport over another. This is about rising to the pinnacle of a sport that gives every country in the world the opportunity to qualify. It’s a sport. It has a ball. It's about being the best. What more do you need?

Americans love to fight - traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble player; the fastest runner; the big league ball players; the toughest boxers. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win - all the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.1

I don’t want to hear that the rules are lame. You don’t know the rules. You all but admitted you don’t watch, so how can you? Injury time, the calculation of which was always the source of debate, is now announced at the sideline as the half is ending. It’s been that way for years. Please try and keep up.

Players take dives. Live with it. It happens in every contact sport. Sometimes a player takes a dive in order to give himself or his teammates a rest. You would also if you just spent the last forty minutes and incalculable miles alternating between a run and a sprint.

Your team needs you. Your country needs you. The next couple weeks will not be easy and will only become harder, and the stakes higher, as time goes on. Sure, I think Landon Donavan is a priss, DaMarcus Beasley is over-rated, and Claudio Reyna is too old. It matters not. I do not expect you to start drinking at 5AM. I do not expect you to march down Main Street with the Stars & Stripes. I do not expect four Chicago cops in riot-gear come to the apartment (my personal best). But I expect you to get behind your team or get out of my way.

Thanks for letting me “share.” Thanks for letting me “emote.” Chuckle if you wish. Just remember that somewhere (not necessarily in Germany) someone in American gear is drinking and dancing with a hot Brazilian, or Swedish, or Australian chick and you are not.

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1George S. Patton, Speech to the Third Army, 1944.


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To: DouglasKC

That's funny. I went to watch my neices play T-ball, and they weren't allowed to win the game either. Go figure.


151 posted on 06/10/2006 2:12:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Drango

Looks like I made my point, thanks.


152 posted on 06/10/2006 2:13:28 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JRios1968

But I welcomed comments on this Smoky Backroom thread. I think its hilarious that "real men," defined as those that feel the need to tell me that my sport of choice is "gay," are so insecure of their manhood. Don't fret . . . maybe the man of the house will give you a foot massage and you'll feel better.


153 posted on 06/10/2006 2:16:43 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JRios1968
Again, insecurity. Where did anyone tell you that you must watch? I had to watch the opening ceremony on Mexican TV in a language that I cannot understand. If that is "forcing" anyone to watch then the anti-soccer folks are more limp-wristed than I realized.
154 posted on 06/10/2006 2:19:08 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Clemenza

Spoken like a true Cubs fan.


155 posted on 06/10/2006 2:20:13 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
If you cannot bring yourself to cheer for or even defend your own country,...

You equate support a sport (any sport)with supporting your country???Are you on drugs or are you 14?

156 posted on 06/10/2006 2:22:05 PM PDT by Drango (No electrons were harmed in this posting. Several however, were inconvenienced.)
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To: Poser

Awww . . . you mean, just because you can't win, the sport is for girls?


157 posted on 06/10/2006 2:22:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Drango
It's quite simple, really. Most should understand. That team you see on the field? It is wearing USA on its jerseys, and playing in a foreign land. I'm not too sure if its members would understand the distinction you are making.
158 posted on 06/10/2006 2:24:52 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Drango

I'd say 1rudeboi's hissy fit shows his IQ is 14. But, I wouldn't want him to send his mommy after me. Hey rudeboi, how was your post-succer-game Chuck E. Cheese party?


159 posted on 06/10/2006 2:29:02 PM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Don't fret . . . maybe the man of the house will give you a foot massage and you'll feel better.

Wow...now that is what psychologists call "projection." Here, let me give you a little advice...go drink your Capri Sun, suck on a few orange slices, then sit in front of your life-sized poster of RonaldoAlexeiPele and ... well, you're (allegedly) a grown up, so you will know what to do.

Just make sure you have Kleenex nearby.

160 posted on 06/10/2006 2:31:31 PM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: JRios1968

I can see you're upset. Maybe your boyfriend will give you a sucker.


161 posted on 06/10/2006 2:34:33 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
"Awww . . . you mean, just because you can't win, the sport is for girls?"

Nope. It's just that soccer is a fine pastime for pre-teen girls.

I compete in handgun shooting. I win.
162 posted on 06/10/2006 2:51:58 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: trisham
I hate soccer.

Soccer is more boring than golf!

163 posted on 06/10/2006 3:26:13 PM PDT by balrog666 (There is no freedom like knowledge, no slavery like ignorance. - Ali ibn Ali-Talib)
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To: DouglasKC

Soccer is great.

Want a ghey sport? Nascar.

Buncha toothless hicks drinking PBR with their fat bottomed girlfriends wearing a tube top and electric blue eyeshadow watching a freaking car go in circles in the hot sun, and secretly hoping for things to "blow up real good!" with a crash.

Boy howdy!


165 posted on 06/10/2006 3:46:25 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser
"I'd like to see an NFL player run nonstop for 45 minutes."

One of the biggest myths of soccer is that the players are always in motion. Two players on the field never leave a small area around each goal at any time of the game. About half the rest never leave either the offensive or defensive side of the field. At any one time, there are rarely more than three or four players actively engaged in the pursuit of the ball. A fullback watching his team attacking the other side's goal over a hundred yards away is hardly "running nonstop".

Furthermore, asking such a question is like asking a sprinter to run a marathon. Do you think Carl Lewis was not in shape because he could not have been competitive at long distances?

Soccer demands great conditioning but no more so than hockey, basketball, or football. Every sport has its unique specialization.
166 posted on 06/10/2006 4:01:01 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: 1rudeboy

Wow...I am sorry you had to ask your mommy (or maybe one of your succer buddies) for help to come up with that. I bet you're now sitting at the Chuck E. Cheese telling all your 8-year old fellow fans how smart you are.

By the way, how are you able to stay up so late at the computer? I guess when you're a 35-year living in the basement at your mom's house you can stay up a little later...


167 posted on 06/10/2006 7:30:34 PM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: JRios1968

'Any activity where the "stars" are known by only one name is not a sport.'

Sorry that makes no sense...what has the 'superiority' of two names as opposed to one got to do with anything?..surely the fact that the whole world(except your nation) knows a person by one moniker shows both the worldwide love of football and also the respect for their talent..


Any activity where the 'stars' are full of steroids isnt a real sport.

Any activity where most of the team spend the game in the dugout isnt a real sport.

Any activity where the 'athletes' barely move or stand still for most of the game isnt a real sport.

Any activity where its 'grestest hero' was an overweight man isnt a real sport.

Any activity where players 'pad up' UNLIKE RUGBY isnt a real sport...

Any activity where you HAVE to be a genetic freak who HAS to be a certain height(unlike 'soccer' where some greats were small,some average height and some tall)before you are allowed to play isnt a real sport.


ACTUALLY,I am not a football fan.but I DID want to show that your argument can be easily turned on your sports...


168 posted on 06/11/2006 11:53:20 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

Given that the entire rest of the world is for football and the WC...

Doesnt it EVER cross America's mind that it alone does not have 'soccer' as its no1 sport?..do Americans ever think that being in the minority could mean they are wrong?.


169 posted on 06/11/2006 11:55:54 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: JRios1968

Dude, that is pathetic. I would've hoped that the anti-soccer crowd (you, specifically) could've come-up with something better. How can it be that some guy living in mom's basement led you to the lamest response, ever?


170 posted on 06/11/2006 1:31:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JRios1968
Ya know, I don't want to offend anyone's delicate sensibilities about their love of soccer, but, I find Canadian curling more exciting than soccer and I think one has to be semiconscious to enjoy that. :-)
171 posted on 06/11/2006 2:59:41 PM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: 1rudeboy
How can it be that some guy living in mom's basement led you to the lamest response, ever?

You see, it's called "targeting your audience."

Follow me on this one...I know it's going to be hard for you to follow, but make the effort, ok? I will even type it out slowly for you to read it out loud.

You see, I have to tone my responses down to the lowest common denominator here, namely you.

By the way, do you know what "namely" and "lowest common denominator" stand for? I can explain, if you need it. I know, I am using big, difficult words for you, but I am sure you can follow.

In the meantime, while you think about it, and take 20-some odd hours to compose a completely weak reply, have some fun watching your favorite "athletes", as they demonstrate their "abilities."

173 posted on 06/11/2006 3:49:59 PM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: the scotsman
ACTUALLY,I am not a football fan.but I DID want to show that your argument can be easily turned on your sports...

Maybe so, but I am not the one saying that because you don't appreciate the sports I appreciate, that makes you ignorant, or a bad countryman or anything like that.

In case you haven't noticed, I haven't set up a thread talking down to other FReepers due to their lack of support for any of my favorite activities, including bowling or softball. Why, you may ask? Because I am secure in MY enjoyment of said activities and because I have a sense of humor about said activities, namely,
- I fully realize that any activity where you can actually get better the more beer you have in you, ain't a sport, and
- I also realize that any activity that typically requires you to rent your shoes ain't a sport.

You see, I have a sense of humor about it, I don't get offended when others put down my favorite activities...I just wish the succer fans would develop the same sense of humor about their so-called "sport."

I get it...WE (the vast majority of Americans) get it. YOU like succer, and we applaud you for that, I guess. Just don't try to tell us we're unpatriotic for not caring one whit about the US team in the "world cup," because all you accomplish is make us dislike succer even more, and then make it personal.

174 posted on 06/11/2006 4:06:58 PM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: 1rudeboy

175 posted on 06/12/2006 5:34:28 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: JRios1968

Gads. You call that a flame? You are a parody.


176 posted on 06/12/2006 7:21:49 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JRios1968
Just don't try to tell us we're unpatriotic for not caring one whit about the US team in the "world cup," because all you accomplish is make us dislike succer even more, and then make it personal.

No one is calling you unpatriotic. We are simply discussing the limits of your patriotism.

177 posted on 06/12/2006 7:23:29 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JRios1968

That link you posted? Did you get it from me? I posted it a number of days ago.


178 posted on 06/12/2006 7:25:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I had no opinion one way or the other until yesterday, when ESPN-2 pre-empted Salt Water Sunday (fishing shows) to show soccer. I look forward to my fishing shows all week, just to have them taken away.


179 posted on 06/12/2006 10:02:56 AM PDT by fredhead (The greatest privilege of citizenship is to be able to freely bear arms under one's country's flag.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Great post. I think that the fact that soccer requires relatively intense concentration on the part of the viewer makes it less likely to "catch on" in a country such as the US which does not have a rich history of the sport.


180 posted on 06/12/2006 11:42:18 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: jmc813

The way the US played today is a poor example of how the game is played. Today's game set back soccer in this country by 10 years.


181 posted on 06/12/2006 11:44:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: JRios1968
Wow...I am sorry you had to ask your mommy (or maybe one of your succer buddies) for help to come up with that. I bet you're now sitting at the Chuck E. Cheese telling all your 8-year old fellow fans how smart you are. By the way, how are you able to stay up so late at the computer? I guess when you're a 35-year living in the basement at your mom's house you can stay up a little later...

Your "insults" would be much more compelling if you could stick with one age accusation per post.

182 posted on 06/12/2006 11:50:01 AM PDT by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: JRios1968
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMweCcT6WLM&search=cool%20soccer%20moves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdQyeaUjOz4&search=cool%20soccer%20moves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcGKgi4h7CA&search=cool%20soccer%20moves

Just some interesting videos. Soccer isn't simple :)

I'd just like to say that you're either misunderstanding or ignorant. We are not saying you have to like soccer or you're stupid, unpatriotic, whatnot. We're saying that America is playing in the world-cup. Hate soccer if you want. Just don't come onto a world cup thread, bash our team, and disrupt our thread. Hate soccer, if you must, but don't go out of your way to bash the U.S.A.

And, as a sidepoint, the reason soccer doesn't seem to have a sense of humour is that people continually bash it well beyond the points of rationality. Sure, not everyone like softball or bowling. But they don't ALWAYS go out of their way to mock the sport. We accept that it is a sport and that's that.

(Yes, this is a useless debate. Freepers will still bash soccer and our team. But it's a good vent :)

183 posted on 06/12/2006 11:56:33 AM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: 1rudeboy

"So You Really Think Soccer Blows?"

Yes.


184 posted on 06/12/2006 11:59:31 AM PDT by exile (Mrs. Exile - "Yes you're the greatest husband ever, now put on some pants")
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To: 1rudeboy
Mexican fan: Your team sucks. U.S.A. fan: Soccer is ghey

Mexican: Your team sucks. GOP_Raider: Soccer sucks and we suck at soccer.

185 posted on 06/12/2006 12:04:01 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (FR's token San Francisco Giants fan)
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To: 1rudeboy
Mexican fan: Your team sucks.

SECURE THE BORDER!!---er, um, sorry, force of habit I guess.

186 posted on 06/12/2006 12:07:04 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (FR's token San Francisco Giants fan)
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To: GOP_Raider

I'm not familiar with this "soccer" thing. Is that the "sport" where a bunch of homosexuals in pajamas run around kicking the round white and black ball?


187 posted on 06/12/2006 12:28:00 PM PDT by BJClinton (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: 1rudeboy; All

Ok, I'm done with my lame attempt at sarcasm. Here's something I've never quite understood with futbol/soccer. I was watching Mexico/Iran yesterday at work and I asked myself "Self, why does the clock keep running after a foul, yellow card, etc. is called?" I've never understood this, but maybe I'm used to nearly every other game where time limits are kept (football, hockey, basketball, etc.) stopping the clock?


188 posted on 06/12/2006 12:30:57 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (FR's token San Francisco Giants fan)
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To: GOP_Raider
I've spent a little time pondering it myself. The best I can come up with is that stopping the clock is worse than running it. If you stopped the clock, the players would have no incentive to (quickly) return to play. You would ruin the continuity of the game.

The system now is probably the best it'll ever be (referee keeps time; injury time announced at end of half).

189 posted on 06/12/2006 2:18:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: the scotsman
Doesnt it EVER cross America's mind that it alone does not have 'soccer' as its no1 sport?..do Americans ever think that being in the minority could mean they are wrong?.

No more than it occurs to soccer fans that their following everyone else--in every underdeveloped country, every nowhere economy, every country people leave to come to America--could mean they're sheeple.

And no more than it occurs to soccer fans that ONE country alone does not have 'soccer' as its number one sport--the same country that is the ONLY world superpower.

The ONE country that doesn't follow everyone else LEADS the world. Make the connection. ;)

190 posted on 06/12/2006 3:42:44 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: 1rudeboy
It's time to quit apologizing and tell the truth. When it comes to soccer, we're right, and the rest of the world is wrong. If they want to dance in the streets of Cameroon or Belgium over this stuff, fine. But the sport does not suit American taste, and we should stop feeling guilty about it.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/14741693.htm

191 posted on 06/12/2006 3:44:21 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: dfwgator

Amen. I cringed through the whole match. They were an embarrassment. They never showed up. The commentator (here in Europe) remarked that they looked like schoolboys showing up for a friendly. Ugh. They had no aggression, no drive, no NOTHING. Italy-Ghana may have ended 2-0, but they PLAYED, and they were both impressive. We're so going to exit in the 1st round.


192 posted on 06/12/2006 3:49:53 PM PDT by austinTparty
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To: Darkwolf377
As an aside, I've been looking all over for those obligatory newspaper articles that allegedly try to force soccer down anyone's throat, and all I've seen so far are articles by columnists (such as Rick Morrisey in the Tribune today) about how they cannot bring themselves to watch.
193 posted on 06/12/2006 3:52:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: austinTparty

I think Landon Donavan is a priss, DaMarcus Beasley is over-rated, and Claudio Reyna is too old.


194 posted on 06/12/2006 3:53:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I don't know anyone who's made the claim. You must be setting a record for whining about it in one thread, though.


195 posted on 06/12/2006 3:53:49 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377

Try comment #2. LOLOLOL


196 posted on 06/12/2006 3:54:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
You seem to have stopped before you got to this line from that poster:

"Sure they can change the channel. They just don;t like being told they enjoy a sport that they don't like."

How is that claiming one is forced to watch?

197 posted on 06/12/2006 3:56:07 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377

Forced to watch/told to enjoy. You should be able to catch my drift. Well, maybe not.


198 posted on 06/12/2006 3:58:06 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: the scotsman

One quick look at the history of the Billboard chart shows that just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good. And I like soccer, I just don't think its popularity should have anything to do with its (or anything else's) perceived quality.


199 posted on 06/12/2006 3:59:39 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: 1rudeboy

You seriously don't understand the difference between being told something and being forced to do something?


200 posted on 06/12/2006 3:59:54 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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