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So You Really Think Soccer Blows?
9. June 2006 | 1rudethug

Posted on 06/09/2006 8:56:48 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

So you Think Soccer Sucks?

Fine. I am honestly surprised that you could find the energy to type it, or its equivalent. I am not surprised that you are probably the same person complaining that soccer is being “rammed down your throat,” or other such nonsense.

Do you realize how silly you sound? In what sort of universe can a professional sport, any professional sport, be forced upon anyone? Just turn off the sports media. That enough should be understandable to every member of this website, even the re-treads, trolls, disruptors, and shills.

But we need to get a few things straight. Above all else, your team is playing in the largest tournament on the face of our planet. That’s right, your team. Your other teams, be they named Penske, Padres, or Packers, do not perform on such a stage. A Packer fan may tell a Bear fan that his team sucks. The Bear fan will reply in kind. Such is the nature of rivalry. But try and explain to me that soccer is a wussy sport when I see the following:

Mexican fan: Your team sucks.
U.S.A. fan: Soccer is ghey.

Oh yeah, that’s real testosterone on display. Chicks dig a competitor.

If you cannot bring yourself to cheer for or even defend your own country, then how about shutting the heck up. If you cannot bring yourself to shut the heck up, then walk into a stadium full of English, German, or Dutch fans, stand up, and shout the same out loud. But please try those fans first. Other countries’ fans may mistakenly deliver you to a painless death. Drink a beer or two if it makes you brave. Remember that there will always be someone braver than you.

I don’t want to hear about how soccer is a “socialist” sport. It’s insulting. To your intelligence. I don’t care to talk about restrictor-plates, revenue-sharing, anti-trust exemptions, or the Fair Catch Rule, whose very name suggests wine spritzers and flower arrangements. Please understand this is not about the superiority of one sport over another. This is about rising to the pinnacle of a sport that gives every country in the world the opportunity to qualify. It’s a sport. It has a ball. It's about being the best. What more do you need?

Americans love to fight - traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble player; the fastest runner; the big league ball players; the toughest boxers. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win - all the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.1

I don’t want to hear that the rules are lame. You don’t know the rules. You all but admitted you don’t watch, so how can you? Injury time, the calculation of which was always the source of debate, is now announced at the sideline as the half is ending. It’s been that way for years. Please try and keep up.

Players take dives. Live with it. It happens in every contact sport. Sometimes a player takes a dive in order to give himself or his teammates a rest. You would also if you just spent the last forty minutes and incalculable miles alternating between a run and a sprint.

Your team needs you. Your country needs you. The next couple weeks will not be easy and will only become harder, and the stakes higher, as time goes on. Sure, I think Landon Donavan is a priss, DaMarcus Beasley is over-rated, and Claudio Reyna is too old. It matters not. I do not expect you to start drinking at 5AM. I do not expect you to march down Main Street with the Stars & Stripes. I do not expect four Chicago cops in riot-gear come to the apartment (my personal best). But I expect you to get behind your team or get out of my way.

Thanks for letting me “share.” Thanks for letting me “emote.” Chuckle if you wish. Just remember that somewhere (not necessarily in Germany) someone in American gear is drinking and dancing with a hot Brazilian, or Swedish, or Australian chick and you are not.

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1George S. Patton, Speech to the Third Army, 1944.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: booooooooring; caprisuntime; dryingpaint; fifa; growinggrass; isitstillon; itsstilljustsoccer; orangesliceanyone; soccer; wakemewhenitsdone; worldcup
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To: onja; 1rudeboy

well once he explained he was the decoy, the flakcatcher for the WorldCup threads, i got the picture ; )


51 posted on 06/09/2006 9:54:29 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: newgeezer
An ad hominem is an excellent point? I complimented him on it, and it is certainly welcome on this thread, but "excellent point?" LOL
52 posted on 06/09/2006 9:55:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: xsmommy

haha. Just read that. That works too :)


53 posted on 06/09/2006 9:57:34 AM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: FeliciaCat

2:55 Eastern.


54 posted on 06/09/2006 9:57:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Soccer is such a happy sport....


55 posted on 06/09/2006 9:57:50 AM PDT by dakine
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To: 1rudeboy

Thank you!


56 posted on 06/09/2006 10:00:45 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: FeliciaCat

It's a tremendous sport..and the conditioning of the players is remarkable..I first got turned onto the game when I was posted to Spain in the late 60's..a girlfriend took me to a Real Madrid game..some 70,000 is the stands going nuts...in the late 70's back in N..I got to see Pele and Beckenbauer play for the Cosmos at Giants Stadium..amazing..Franz was the best I ever saw..


57 posted on 06/09/2006 10:01:50 AM PDT by ken5050 (GWB, Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, freed hundreds of millions.# of Nobel PeacePrizes: ZERO)
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To: 1rudeboy
An ad hominem is an excellent point?

It certainly can be, especially if it points out a reason for the existence of the thread. ;^)

58 posted on 06/09/2006 10:09:48 AM PDT by newgeezer (Repeal all Amendments after XV. Yes, ALL of them. Yes, I mean that one, too.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I don't hate soccer but I am not a fanatic either. You could count on one hand the number of games I have watched more than a minute of in the past 4 years. I will watch some games in this World Cup like I have done in the past and likely the semis and final. I will watch as long as the games hold my interest and in the multi channeled universe we have flip when they don't. I will give the games I watch a chance. My picks for the final would be Germany and Brazil unless they meet earlier.


59 posted on 06/09/2006 10:19:05 AM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38

btw every single game in the tournament is being shown on cable in High Definition up here in Canada so that helps.


60 posted on 06/09/2006 10:23:58 AM PDT by xp38
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To: FeliciaCat
People who "hate" soccer dont understand it.

You might want to reconsider.

When I see American kids playing soccer, I see kids who, if not for soccer, would be playing baseball. I see kids who, if not for soccer, would have become tommorrow's high school, college, and professional baseball players.

That's why I HATE soccer.

61 posted on 06/09/2006 10:24:28 AM PDT by newgeezer (Repeal all Amendments after XV. Yes, ALL of them. Yes, I mean that one, too.)
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To: newgeezer

So a kid prefers one sport over another. Big deal. Who knows if that "kid" would even be good at baseball?

I dont understand the point of your post.


62 posted on 06/09/2006 11:10:15 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

LOL!


63 posted on 06/09/2006 11:14:02 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: FeliciaCat
So a kid prefers one sport over another. Big deal.

Quite often, the kid has little if any say in it. Those who do have little or no experience to go on. After all, they're kids.

Who knows if that "kid" would even be good at baseball?

That's precisely the point. We'll never know. If soccer wasn't an option, he'd be playing baseball.

64 posted on 06/09/2006 11:26:37 AM PDT by newgeezer (Repeal all Amendments after XV. Yes, ALL of them. Yes, I mean that one, too.)
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To: newgeezer

You could always look at like this...every kid who is playing baseball is missing out on soccer. All those little leaguers will never know if soccer is really their game because their playing baseball. boo hoo.

c'mon this is silly.


65 posted on 06/09/2006 11:52:07 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: newgeezer

That's an unfounded fear. Athletic kids will play multiple sports. I played 3 different ones on an organized level and at least 2 more on an unorganized (sandlot) basis.


66 posted on 06/09/2006 11:57:20 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Back to lurking...)
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To: 1rudeboy

Who cares? Soccer sucks. Having said that, Google's home page is kind of funny today...


67 posted on 06/09/2006 12:00:31 PM PDT by green iguana
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To: FeliciaCat
You could always look at like this...every kid who is playing baseball is missing out on soccer.

I might look at it that way if I was a New World Order commie socialist. But, I'm not.

The summer sport of Americans is baseball.

68 posted on 06/09/2006 12:00:31 PM PDT by newgeezer (Repeal all Amendments after XV. Yes, ALL of them. Yes, I mean that one, too.)
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To: discostu

Interesting. I attribute the intense dislike for soccer to a general backlash against the incessant squealing by liberals, demanding America to like soccer.


69 posted on 06/09/2006 12:13:25 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Killborn

I'm sure a lot of the dislike for soccer is because of how the Euro-trash worshipping section of liberalism always says America's lack of fondness for the sport is an intense character flaw (interesting these are the same people who tend to decry ALL American sports watching and probably never watch soccer either). But the blind slamming of a sport just because it's being discussed is not unique to soccer, some folks just have to share their taste no matter what.


70 posted on 06/09/2006 12:39:35 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: Killborn

Dislike for soccer here is just part of the ignorant eurobashing.

Click on any thread about Airbus and you will see what I mean.

Soccer is great!


71 posted on 06/09/2006 12:40:51 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: newgeezer
Soccer: The 'sport' that makes our men weak and our women strong.

Oh, the 'excitement' that is MLS soccer!

It's like watching a wolf lope behind the weakest moose in the heard. Yeah, someone's likely to win, but damn it takes too long for too little action.

72 posted on 06/09/2006 12:42:09 PM PDT by ReaganCowboy (History books are written by winners.)
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To: Killborn

Actually, Drew Carey, a pretty conservative/libertarian is a huge soccer fan, and he has a tv series on now about world cup and his travels with the US team.

Equating soccer to liberalism is just stupid, and typically xenophobic.


73 posted on 06/09/2006 12:44:00 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: discostu

Sports is anathema to liberalism. This love for soccer is more fake than Pam Anderson's DDs.


74 posted on 06/09/2006 12:44:55 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: newgeezer

They still might become tomorrow's baseball players, most athletic kids play multiple sports, and a lot of highly successful athletes recommend to parents to have their kids play multiple sport to prevent burnout and to expand their overall athleticism. Wayne Gretzky says a lot of his success in hockey is because of the amount of time he spent playing lacrosse, caused him to view the game differently and handle his stick differently. And really who cares which sport they grow up to play if they grow up to play any at all, isn't the important part that they have a long, productive, healthy, fulfilling life; the youth of today does have a purpose for later other than providing sports fans with entertainment.


75 posted on 06/09/2006 12:45:12 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: ReaganCowboy

Yeah, and baseball is just nonstop beehive of activity!

LOL


Soccer is a strategy game, each goal is exponentially important, and the players are true athletes. I'd like to see an NFL player run nonstop for 45 minutes.


76 posted on 06/09/2006 12:46:12 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Goes back to backlash. We don't like Euro because they became all socialist. If they were ore like the way they were in Post WWII, we'll hate them aa lot less. Unfortunately, the communist rot is deep.


77 posted on 06/09/2006 12:46:27 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Tell it to the liberals. They love it because its "global", "European", gentlemanly, elegant, blah blah blah.

Their love for soccer is equivalent to the Last Lady's claim that she was always a Yankees fan.

Since libs wrap themselves so tightly on the altar of soccer, I'm not surpriesed to see FReepers hit back as hard against soccer.


78 posted on 06/09/2006 12:49:00 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Killborn

I am a dual citizen with Ireland, hardly a socialist nation.

Assigning a political philosophy to a sport is just lazy thinking. 192 countries vied to get into the World Cup.


79 posted on 06/09/2006 12:49:09 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser

I don't think it's equating soccer to liberalism, I think it's equating a certain type of "liking" soccer (which really doesn't involve being a fan of the sport so much as using it to bash America) with liberalism. And within that context it's accurate, every World Cup the sports world gets filled with columns by well documented liberal sports writers talking about how stupid Americans are for not liking the sport, not that they actually watch the sport of course they just want America to know that not liking it is stupid.


80 posted on 06/09/2006 12:49:24 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: Killborn

Yep, liberals don't like the merit based world of clearly defined winners and losers, people's feelings get hurt you know ;)


81 posted on 06/09/2006 12:50:16 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

BTW, Dubya is pretty interested in soccer too. :)


82 posted on 06/09/2006 12:50:36 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Killborn

Well, I'm conservative and I love it, its a great game.

Better than Steroid baseball, where nothing, absolutely nothing of any kind happens during the majority of the game.

Spend a few weeks in Argentina or Africa or E.Europe, you will get a better appreciation for soccer.


83 posted on 06/09/2006 12:50:55 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: discostu

Correct.


84 posted on 06/09/2006 12:51:30 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: 1rudeboy
I do not expect four Chicago cops in riot-gear come to the apartment (my personal best).

LMAO. Bravo.

I'm not a big soccer fan, but I really enjoyed the British movie "Football Factory" and the Czeck film "Ups and downs". Hooliganism at it's best. Sparta Prague, Sparta Prague, oye oye oye.

85 posted on 06/09/2006 12:52:28 PM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: ClearCase_guy
"For Europeans. And girls."

redundant...

86 posted on 06/09/2006 12:52:58 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Happens. Its human nature to over generalized and shove things into categories even if the category is "circular hole" and the object is "square peg".


87 posted on 06/09/2006 12:53:26 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: discostu

Bingo.


88 posted on 06/09/2006 12:54:01 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

"I'd like to see an NFL player run nonstop for 45 minutes."


Jim Fixx was an awesome football player....


89 posted on 06/09/2006 12:55:14 PM PDT by dakine
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Ditto. I'm not athletic or sporty in general but I do like to play sports if given the opportunity or inclination. Soccer is huge in Thailand. And although I'm never much of a soccer fan, Man U is still the most kicka$$ team around. :)


90 posted on 06/09/2006 12:55:49 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: dakine

You would have about 8 dead Defensive Ends per NFL game if you made those pigs run.

Same goes for rugby, great game, much more athletic than NFL.


91 posted on 06/09/2006 12:56:21 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Killborn

I know Thailand quite well, been there a lot, including a full month last year.

One of my favorite places in the world. If you get a chance, shoot up to Vietnam, another wonderful place.

Thais will never excel in soccer, they are too small.


92 posted on 06/09/2006 12:57:46 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Everybody has the opportunity to score in baseball...I frankly I'm no baseball fan.

Seriously, the NFL is worried that what happened to baseball -- youth turning to play soccer in the spring instead of baseball, growing into adults that don't watch professional baseball nor buy tickets -- will happen to football next, if fall soccer encrouches.

NFL, NFL Players Association put up $2.5M four years ago to start USA Football, a non-profit to promote/support amatuer football in America. Check out their web site, usafootball.com

My worry is that as high schools get bigger in terms of student body population, and as America continues to urbanize, fewer boys will every learn to knock the crap out of each other and keep going. Football unfortunately is becoming a sport of behemoths, discouraging young men from playing a phyically adverse game that involves hard contact. Maybe lacrosse will become our next teen national physical contact sport and save our national manhood -- soccer sure as hell won't.

I'll grant you soccer is a sport, and is physically demanding, but it does not involve near-fighting conditions, complete with hitting, intentional physical and physcological intimidation -- and bell-ringing and bloodletting.

We need men that can fight, not dance around a ball.

93 posted on 06/09/2006 12:59:02 PM PDT by ReaganCowboy (History books are written by winners.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Poland shots on Goal 1st half: 0


94 posted on 06/09/2006 1:01:59 PM PDT by dakine
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To: ReaganCowboy; jjbrouwer

Yeah, but no one gets hurt in baseball unless there is a fight, and NFL guys are weenies compared to Rugby players.

Nothing happens in baseball, hell, the players either sit on their asses half the game, or stand still in a field for the other half. Occasionally, they hit then run,but then they just stand there, waiting. No thanks........

Soccer's grace is that anyone can play it, nearly anywhere you have enough room and a ball. I am constantly amazed at how many freepers feel threatened by a sport, its so childish.


95 posted on 06/09/2006 1:02:34 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: 1rudeboy

This is a good idea as it will keep all the fat American baseball fans, who feel it necessary to tell us how much they hate soccer, off the World Cup threads.


96 posted on 06/09/2006 1:07:35 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Falling down that hill)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
I'm not threatened by soccer -- I am decidedly personally indifferent to it.

I've coaches kids' teams and am formerly a FIFA level 8 qualified referee (my payback for having had kids play in youth leagues).

I'll even watch the World Cup.

But soccer is and never will be a game that captures the American psyche, unless we become a nation of Alan Alda's (God forbid).

Rugby maybe -- that's a pretty good blood-and-guts game, although simple in it's execution. Seemingly little strategic development to it.

Ta-da, and enjoy the Cup!

97 posted on 06/09/2006 1:10:21 PM PDT by ReaganCowboy (History books are written by winners.)
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To: jjbrouwer

Or the ultimate fake "sport" NASCAR.

Bunch of goobs watching a car go around in circles for 4 hours, wow, what athleticism.


98 posted on 06/09/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser

They feel threatened by a few Mexicans "invading" their borders so it is hardly surprising.


99 posted on 06/09/2006 1:11:21 PM PDT by jjbrouwer (Falling down that hill)
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To: ReaganCowboy
Oh, and this little ditty's been on my home page for some time now:

"And I officiate youth and high school football. "There are rules in life son. There are rules in football too. And if I catch you, there are penalites for breaking those rules. And yes, the guy across the line from you will bust you in the nose if you let him. You might want to hit him first. Now shut up and play ball!"

100 posted on 06/09/2006 1:12:37 PM PDT by ReaganCowboy (History books are written by winners.)
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