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What is Smoking Pot Really Like?
http://www.wunderland.com/ ^ | 9 27 06

Posted on 09/27/2006 10:02:41 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: Mojave
In 2002, more than half (54%) of adolescent substance abuse admissions were referred to substance abuse treatment through the criminal justice system compared with 40% in 1992."

ROFL!!!
Substance abuse admissions include all drugs, legal and illegal, including alcohol.
Adolescents are given a choice between jail and substance abuse treatment when convicted of marijuana possession. They usually choose treatment over incarceration. That does not mean marijuana caused a problem that needed "treatment".
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61 posted on 10/01/2006 9:52:21 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: freepatriot32

What's the date on this article, really, 1960?


62 posted on 10/01/2006 9:53:02 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: mugs99
Substance abuse admissions include all drugs, legal and illegal, including alcohol.

Even more pathetic than the last one.

"Between 1992 and 2002, adolescent substance abuse treatment admissions reporting marijuana as the primary substance increased from 23% to 64%

I'm starting to feel sorry for you.

63 posted on 10/01/2006 9:54:38 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
"Between 1992 and 2002, adolescent substance abuse treatment admissions reporting marijuana as the primary substance increased from 23% to 64%
LOL!
No need to feel sorry for me, just produce your source.
What are you afraid of?
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64 posted on 10/01/2006 10:42:25 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99

http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/txYouth.htm

Same as the link I already provided in post #57.

Poor you.


65 posted on 10/01/2006 10:54:25 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: robertpaulsen
Exactly? It's still being studied. Which is the point. It's not been proven safe. Therefore it's dangerous.

A lot of things are dangerous. Running with scissors is dangerous. Running with nitroglycerin is also dangerous. However, only a fool would equate one danger with the other. "Dangerous" is a relative word here. That's the point. To say that marajuana is dangerous simply begs clarification.

66 posted on 10/01/2006 11:11:47 AM PDT by monkfan
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To: monkfan
Running with scissors is dangerous.

So what?

67 posted on 10/01/2006 11:13:00 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: mugs99
"In this document, SAMHSA makes statistically unjustifiable and misleading leaps from “emergency room mentions” to causality."

It does not. Throughout the report, SAMHSA refers to "marijuana mentions" and "marijuana-related". The report doesn't say "marijuana induced" or "caused by marijuana". This guy has got an agenda.

Do you consider this to be an unbiased source? He really doesn't provide anything specific -- just suppositions.

68 posted on 10/01/2006 11:47:19 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
It does not.
ROTFLMAO!!!
You said in post #55:
"How many hospital admissions for aspirin? Anything close to the 50,000 admitted for marijuana? The 70,000 treated in the ER for marijuana reactions and released?"

Now you you're dodging with:
"Throughout the report, SAMHSA refers to "marijuana mentions" and "marijuana-related". The report doesn't say "marijuana induced" or "caused by marijuana".

What happened to the "50,000 admitted for marijuana"?
What happened to the "70,000 treated in the ER for marijuana reactions and released"?

This guy has got an agenda. Do you consider this to be an unbiased source?
He doesn't represent the War On Drugs that your source does. He represents the American Society of Addictive Medicine. His report was sponsored by the following doctors, all of them members of The American Society of Addictive Medicine
Terry L. Alley, M.D.
James Alley, M.D.
Maris Andersons, M.D.,CD,CCFP
Andris Antoniskis, M.D.
Mihran N. Ask, M.D.
Ray P. Baker, M.D.
E. J. Barice, M.D., M.P.H.
Andrea G. Barthwell, M.D.
Gabrielle B. Batzer, M.D.
Louis E. Baxter, Sr., M.D.
Richard A. Beach, M.D.
Manoher R. Bearelly, M.D.
Lee H. Beecher, M.D.
Jeffrey A. Berman, M.S., M.D.
Sheila B. Blume, M.D.
Jacob Bobrowski, M.D.
Douglas L. Bovee, M.D.
Michael F. Boyle, III, D.O.
Burns M. Brady, M.D.
Jess W. Bromley, M.D.
David W. Brook, M.D.
William S. Brostoff, M.D.
Kirk J. Brower, M.D.
Lawrence S. Brown, Jr., M.D., M.P.H.
Donald G. Browning, M.D.
Milton E. Burglass, M.D., M.P.H.
Andrew Campbell, Ph.D.
William George Campbell, M.D., CCSAM
Neil A. Capretto, D.O.
Greg Carlson, M.D.
H. B. Carlson, M.D.
Paul G. Casola, M.D., Ph.D., FRCPC
John N. Chappel, M.D.
Jean-Pierre Chiasson, M.D.
H. W. Clark, M.D., JD, MPH
D. K. Cockrell, M.D.
Irving A. Cohen, M.D.
Stephen M. Colameco, M.D.
Robert A. Collen, M.D.
Donald R. Cornelius, M.D.
Sandra J. Counts, M.D.
Graeme M. Cunningham, M.D.
Carol Cunningham, Ph.D.
Robert D. Daigle, M.D.
John Daigle, M.D.
John C. Dalco, M.D.
Donald Lee Damstra, M.D.
Louis E. Deere, D.O.
Anthony H. Dekker, D.O.
Alexander F. DeLuca, M.D.
Peter A. DeMaria, Jr., M.D.
Avtar S. Dhillon, M.D.
Andrew DiBartolomeo, M.D.
William E. Dickinson, D.O.
Dennis C. Doherty, D.O.
Martin C. Doot, M.D.
Joseph E. Dorsey, M.D.
Robert L. DuPont, M.D.
That's A to D. Shall I continue E to Z?
69 posted on 10/01/2006 2:46:37 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Mojave
Same as the link I already provided in post #57.
Well silly me!
Since I already refuted your source in posts #59 and #61, I assumed you had moved on to another source.

Between 1992 and 2002, adolescent substance abuse treatment admissions reporting marijuana as the primary substance increased from 23% to 64%...You left out..."The criminal justice system was the principal source of referral to treatment"

I already answered this silliness in post #61:
Adolescents are given a choice between jail and substance abuse treatment when convicted of marijuana possession. They usually choose treatment over incarceration. That does not mean marijuana caused a problem that needed "treatment".

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
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70 posted on 10/01/2006 2:56:54 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
You left out..."The criminal justice system was the principal source of referral to treatment"

So what? Your lame claim that there were no such admissions was exposed as bovine scat.

71 posted on 10/01/2006 6:25:25 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
So what? Your lame claim that there were no such admissions was exposed as bovine scat.

ROFL!
My claim? Where are those admissions?
You tried to cheat and you got caught...by your own reference!

How are you and Diane doing on those signatures? Are you going to get a proposition on the November ballot to repeal the Compassionate Use Act?
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72 posted on 10/01/2006 6:36:27 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
1. There are no hospital admissions for marijuana.

2. ROFL! My claim?

Yep. Your false and easily refuted claim.

Your squirming failed.

73 posted on 10/01/2006 7:36:07 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Lol...
You do like to take things out of context...that's okay though, I really did enjoy your video and that makes up for it.

I said "Safer than aspirin".
Paulsen said "50,000 admitted for marijuana" and "70,000 treated in the ER for marijuana reactions and released"

Emergency room admission are not court ordered treatment. If you can show those medical emergencies caused by marijuana, that paulsen obviously can't, please do so.
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74 posted on 10/01/2006 7:58:31 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
1. There are no hospital admissions for marijuana.

2. You do like to take things out of context...

How do you take a flat lie "out of context"?

Please feel free to put that falsehood in "context". (This should be good.)

75 posted on 10/01/2006 8:01:29 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
You still can't come up with even one admission that was medical necessity?
You'd better stick with making those Drug Council of America videos. You're a better actor than debater!
So...How's those signatures coming?
76 posted on 10/01/2006 8:56:08 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Mojave
You still can't come up with even one admission that was medical necessity?
You'd better stick with making those Drug Council of America videos. You're a better actor than debater!
So...How's those signatures coming?
77 posted on 10/01/2006 8:57:55 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
You still can't come up with even one admission that was medical necessity?

That wasn't your claim.

Let's revisit it:

There are no hospital admissions for marijuana.
Your lie failed, your squirming failed too.
78 posted on 10/01/2006 9:07:02 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Prove it.
Where are those admissions...not court ordered "treatment"...the medical necessity admissions claim I responded to. You still haven't come up with even one.

Are you doing that well collecting the signatures you need to get the Compassionate Use Act repealed?


79 posted on 10/01/2006 10:26:37 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
Prove it.

Prove that you claimed that, "There are no hospital admissions for marijuana"?

No problem.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1709756/posts?page=79#56

80 posted on 10/01/2006 10:30:48 PM PDT by Mojave
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