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Posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:45 AM PDT by DCBryan1Edited on 10/02/2006 12:55:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
School Shooting injures one person,
Hostage situation may be developing.
Update: Multiple Shooting Victims and Possible Hostages in Lancaster County
Not many details available yet, but an incident has been reported from Mine Rd. in Bart Township in Lancaster County involving multiple gunshot victims. Dennis Buterbaugh reports live from our newsroom. abc27 has a news crew on the way. We will update with details as they become available.
Update 2: Pennsylvania Police: Amish School is 'Horrendous Crime Scene' After Shooting
NICKEL MINES, Pa. At least two female students and one slightly older female who may have been a teacher's aide were shot and killed execution style in what police say may be a revenge killing for something that happened 20 years ago.
State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said Monday that truck driver Charles Carl Roberts IV entered the one-room Amish schoolhouse in earlier in the day. The gunman brought in pieces of wood to board up the doors to the building when he entered the school. He also stacked desks against the building's doors.
"It appears that the suspect entered school with the intention of taking hostages," Miller said.
Roberts had wire ties and plastic flex cuff, which he used to begin tying the hostages feet together after they were lined up along a blackboard. He let go 15 male students, as well as one adult female who was pregnant. Three other non-student females with infants were also allowed to leave. One shotgun and one handgun was found next to the suspect when police entered the building.
"It seems as though he wanted to attack young, female victims," Miller said.
After a half hour inside, Roberts began shooting. When the gunfire stopped, three females were found shot dead at the scene, along with the suspect, who shot himself, Miller said. At least seven more victims some critically wounded were transported to nearby hospitals, he said. One victim, a young girl, died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said. He could not confirm how many people died en route or at the hospital. The county coroner earlier reported six children killed but then backed off of that statement.
We are all born with original sin and freedom of will.
IMO There are people who are just naughty by nature.
I couldn't agree more. Thank you, RM.
Drug problem hits Amish youth as well.
I recall the old Movie "Friendly Persuasion" with Gary Cooper..and it sounds like they are still living that way today..It's sweet.
In the old days that was the "tax system" in most of rural America.
As things have changed, the Amish, and others, have had to change.
There are monastic orders (Catholic and Orthodox and Buddhist) as well as communal groups like the Shakers, where landownership is in common.
Not sure "land in production" is let off the tax hook though. That's usually termed "unrelated business income" or UBIT in the tax laws.
They were Quakers in that movie
Really? I've been listening to FOX...I didn't hear that. Has that been confirmed?
Sorry, I didn't mean to send that via private mail.
MSNBC. She's been there for at least five years.
Thanks you answered a few ???? I have been pondering.
Esp. who the heck do you marry and procreate with in a closed community with out ending up with cleft palates and such.
Yeah, exemplary morals, values and behavior have been driving less than honorable folks over the edge to violence at least as long ago as Calvary and Soddom and Gomorrah.
I just hate to see it hit the precious Amish folks.
A string of words I really never expected to hear. Sounds like an album title.
Unfortunately, the psychologist is right. Without a strong, traditional family structure, young men (and young women) have become increasingly violent. That is a simple fact and has been backed up statistically.
Actually, it was. So were the Birmingham church bombings. The Spanish inquisition. The 6-day war. The hundred-day-war. The holocaust. These events were set in motion the moment Adam ate of the fruit. Since then, we've been killing, robbing, lying to and cheating each other. We just can't help ourselves
The Father gave us a lifeline by sending His son, the Christ. But to this day most just ignore Him, or follow Him in name only. So, expect these sort of things to happen until time runs out.
it works in other areas, but most people here are so afraid of guns that they think that they have more to fear from their fellow employees than a homicidal maniac.
mind conditioning - their only hope lies in not thinking that it can happen to them.
Yep, I've never been aware of the Amish not owning their own land...there's much that is communal like the schools and the church itself, but a family runs its own farm and splits it up among the sons when the father passes (of course, when you have 5 sons, eventually everbody has a postage stamp and that's when 4 of the sons take off to Indiana.)
And income is income - the IRS isn't going to stop taxing farm income just because the farm is owned by a church - they're going to track that down.
There may be more.
The nutjob in Colorado started this.
As soon as one of these insane killings starts, nutjobs everywhere start trying to copy them.
At least the bastard was shot dead.
Thanks for stepping in, RM.
Oops.."Quakers"? Amish? What do I know anyway..(Thanks)..sw
That just leaves the 7 deadly sins.
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Thank you both, for clearing that up!
Well, what could be better than Intercourse, PA?
Four patients. One deceased. Two head shots. Three remaining patients in "very critical" condition.
"I somehow DO NOT think that the Amish people do not have any problem 'Busting their kid's ass"."
When I posted I was sure that the kid/shooter was not Amish. Now I have no idea, because I am reading all kinds of crap.
This is so sad.
However, almost 20 years ago, in my own town....a main area of our town with large supermarkets, drugstores, small eateries, shops on both sides of the road---many shoppers at all times.
..a bitter old man simply went berserk....and shot up a whole neighborhood, trapping people inside the supermarkets.....shooting/killing in front of supermarkets, drugstores on both sides of the main street...
..killing the first 2 policemen who responded...holding hostages....for hours.....many folks stranded in their cars in the parking lot.
My children & I missed the carnage by a heartbeat....I picked them up from school and we were going to the grocery store and at the last minute, drove by and didn't stop....**I can remember it so clearly!!..at the very last second, I decided not to stop!!**My husband, who worked just down the street at a large company, also started to turn in at the shopping center, but for some reason, changed his mind, and went in the opposite direction to a distant store.
..the killings happened only a few minutes later.
A pregnant woman was shot in the stomach and lost the baby....I forgot how many were killed....When my husband & I related our near misses, we were shaking....all we could do was hold each other and pray!
.. it was totally senseless.
Evil is evil.
It just seems like we have more of it lately.
Obviously the administrator didn't think so, cause my post was removed. :-)
What I was trying to say is: if the press didn't cover these incidents like a lookie loo carnival, there would probably be less incidents...and speculation as to why they occur. They seem to occur in bunches, but then what do I know?
I hope you read this, before it gets pulled. :-O
Their people (for the most part) had originally came from Uniontown Pennsylvania, and those folks there originally came from Lancaster and York counties in Pennsylvania, mostly Paradise township.
Uniontown was a non-Amish area settled predominantly by First Borners, Dunkards and other Plain Church people.
I know that when I read the names of the children who were murdered that I will recognize surnames. Trying to keep that part repressed at the moment.
One can also note that psychological "disorders" can be culturally defined. What is normal in one culture might be "crazy" in another.
I have been watching Fox & nothing was said about it being a student or amish resident.
Shooter is rumored to be a 70 year old taxi driver went into the school, ordered the males to leave, lined up the girls and shot them. Was angry with some of the Amish mothers. Claim is on CNN from a caller supposedly a resident in the community. FWIW.
A lot of people don't realize it, but the Pagans are thick in SW Lancaster County.
Pa dutch food is exceptional and will cause high degrees of weight gain in a short amount of time.
It's designed for men who do twelve hours or more of demaning physical labor a day. The Amish now grow tobacco, and they put in every plant by hand - acres of it.
Reports coming in.
Ole Roy was a hired taxi driver for the Amish and he got into a squabble with the Moms so he settled it by sending the boys out and lining up the girls shooting all the lil girls.
Per a witness on the phone with CNN
Exactly. while there's always going to be problems between parents and kids, from everything I've seen/read about the Amish, they seem to have a wonderful family situation. And I believe there's a lot of support in the extended family/community as a whole.
I've tried to read everything I can about the Amish. Honestly, I admire them and am a bit envious. I love to cook & quilt & garden. Seriously, I really wish sometimes that I could live a lifestyle like the Amish.
CNN - 70 year old man (Roy)who got into an argument with one of the school children's mother is the perp - trying to confirm
Pretty stupid comment since you have no idea who the shooter is.
"Bow-ie" instead of "Boo-ie"
bow-ie: bisexual singer. boo-ie: american knife inventor.
It is Scriptural, but a lot of posters here are not aware of the context and it only causes pain.
You are just wrong. Everyone who has dealings with the Amish respect them immensely. I don't believe the Jews consider themselves any more insular than, say, the Presbyterians, either.
I feel like this forum is turning upside down, sometimes.
On a warm Spring morning in May of 1927 the Treasurer of the Bath, Michigan Consolidated School District blew up half of the school building (intending to have destroyed all of it). Within the hour he had committed suicide (and more murders) in the middle of the village by detonating explosives in his vehicle. In all, 45 people would be dead & many more would be injured in the worst instance of school violence in U.S. history.
This sort of thing has been going on for a long time.
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