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WOW! ISN'T THIS DRUG WAR GREAT!
Boortz.com ^ | 11-22-2006 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/22/2006 7:35:17 AM PST by Dick Bachert

Atlanta police went to a home on Neal Street in Atlanta last evening to execute a search warrant. When they kicked the door in the only occupant of the home, a 92-year-old woman, started shooting. She hit all three police officers. One in the thigh, one in the arm and another in the shoulder. All police officers will be OK. The woman will not. She was shot and killed by the police.

I'm not blaming the cops here. Not at all. They had a valid search warrant, and they say they were at the right address. Shots were fired, three cops hit, and they returned fire. A 92-year-old woman who was so afraid of crime in her neighborhood that she had burglar bars on every door and window, is now dead.

The blame lies on this idiotic drug war we're waging. We have all the studies we need, all of the comprehensive data is in. We can do a much more effective job of reducing drug use in this country if we'll just take a portion of this money we spend for law enforcement and spend it on treatment programs. A Rand study showed that we can reduce illicit drug usage in this country a specified amount through treatment programs at about 10% of the cost of reducing drug usage by that same amount through criminalization and law enforcement.

There's just something in the American psyche that demands that drug users be punished instead of treated and rehabilitated. We think they're stupid and ignorant for getting mixed up with those drugs in the first place. And you know what? We're right? But look at the messages we send to our children every single day with cigarettes, alcohol, and an endless stream of drug ads on television and in magazines. Drug culture? You bet we have.


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KEYWORDS: cutandrun; donutwatch; druggy; drugwar; hempatarian; leo; stoner; wod; wodlist
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To: Wombat101
What part of "the officers had a legal warrant and 'knocked and announced'" do you not understand?
That is the quote from the Police spokesperson.

Are you saying in one breath that the Assistant Chief of Police is a liar but in the next breath that you support the police?

Do you believe that every 92 year woman that uses deadly force should be met my deadly force by a police officer?

He better have tears in his eyes and be ready to explain it to St. Peter!

Where is Andy Taylor when we need him?

161 posted on 11/22/2006 10:40:20 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Sam Hill
Are you an alien?

Just asking.

162 posted on 11/22/2006 10:42:11 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Sam Hill
The same could be said of a suicide bomber. He was just blowing himself up. The others just happened to be there.

That makes no sense at all. A suicide bomber has intent to kill others, hence Fox News' (admittedly labored) phrase, "homicide bomber." Suicide bombers don't just happen to kill others and destroy property. It's their intent and you know it. How dumb do you think ppl are to make such an idiotic statement?

A heroin junkie or a crack addict may have ill effects on society, but it's pretty clear that they don't get high or become addicted with the intent of suicidally becoming a drag on others. What total nonsense!

163 posted on 11/22/2006 10:42:59 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Zon
There's drug manufacturers advertising prescription drugs to people almost as though the audience is competent medical professionals able to decide self-medication. The advertisements suggest that they patient ask their doctor for advice. Yet with other drugs the government self-righteously proclaims that people and their doctors are deemed incompetent to decide how the patient may medicate.

Excellent points. And at the same time the Gov't decrees that we're all competent to decide on other drugs (caffeine, cold medicines, herbal remedies, etc.).

164 posted on 11/22/2006 10:46:53 AM PST by rhombus
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To: dljordan
They had to get in before she flushed her stash.

There was no stash. No drugs were found.

165 posted on 11/22/2006 10:47:28 AM PST by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: DanTheAdmin

Tin hats, anyone?


166 posted on 11/22/2006 10:48:31 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: Sam Hill

If drugs are legalized they won't be sold for long. The addicts will soon lose any ability to make a living and so will again resort to theft for their habits.

Right, just like it happened when alcohol prohibition was repealed and alcoholics couldn't hold a job and resorted to theft. Shootouts by alcoholics and distributors in front of liquor stores are so common these days.

167 posted on 11/22/2006 10:48:35 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Sam Hill

"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with." ('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)


168 posted on 11/22/2006 10:48:41 AM PST by rednesss
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To: Huck

In fact, many suicide bombers are on heroin or some other drug -- mixed with their latest inspiration from Friday's prayer, so who knows what they are thinking.

In fact, trying to reason with them is exactly like trying to reason with the druggie crowd.

Just as they pine for the caliphate you druggies want your high.

And every thing and everyone else be damned.


169 posted on 11/22/2006 10:49:50 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: rednesss

('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)

LOL

You're perfect.


170 posted on 11/22/2006 10:50:41 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: A.J.Armitage
"There was no stash. No drugs were found."

I know, I forgot the sarcasm tag. That's one of the perennial excuses for no-knock warrants.
171 posted on 11/22/2006 10:50:57 AM PST by dljordan
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To: A.J.Armitage

You know this probably all came about because she sold a few of her prescription Vicodin's to someone to buy some food or something. How reprehensible.


172 posted on 11/22/2006 10:52:13 AM PST by rednesss
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To: rednesss; Sam Hill
Once again you assume my motivation here is to legalize drugs. I don't have a dog in that fight. I could care less about drugs or druggies. What I care about are the rights of American citizens and the U.S. Constitution.

Thank you for a sane comment. It's more important that the rights of individuals not be violated than it is to catch drug users or any other kind of criminal.
173 posted on 11/22/2006 10:52:54 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: Squeako

Nice post. When a drug dealer is taken off the streets -- imprisoned -- it creates a job opportunity for ten other people to become a drug dealer. They'll fight it out of course, to see who controls the turf. When a bank robber or murder is imprisoned the murder and bank robbing stops. That is, no one is waiting in the wings to fill their shoes.


174 posted on 11/22/2006 10:53:15 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Sam Hill

Thank you, truth is timeless.


175 posted on 11/22/2006 10:53:26 AM PST by rednesss
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To: JamesP81

"It's more important that the rights of individuals not be violated than it is to catch drug users or any other kind of criminal."

Right.

You guys would really love Somalia.

But you better get their quick before Sharia law gets imposed.

Though, come to think of it, that wouldn't faze you -- since they still allow (ney, encourage) doping yourself.


176 posted on 11/22/2006 10:55:00 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
These cops were clearly gunning for this old lady.

They weren't gunning for her as much as they just didn't care on way or another.
177 posted on 11/22/2006 10:55:12 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: FastCoyote
"If you spent the money you now waste on drug enforcement on enforcement of burglary and assault laws, you'd still get rid of the worst druggies and the recreational ones wouldn't matter."

Little if any motivation for mugging a dozen little old ladies each day to pay for the drugs -- if legalized, drugs shouldn't cost any more than untaxed legal drugs like aspirin and caffeine. Drug addicts could peacefully overdose on $2 worth of drugs in the privacy of their own homes.

I'd have to feel bad for the cop who has to deal with them two weeks later in response to the 911 call about the smell, but not as much as for the little old lady who is getting mugged right now.

178 posted on 11/22/2006 10:55:51 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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To: Sam Hill

In fact, many suicide bombers are on heroin or some other drug -- mixed with their latest inspiration from Friday's prayer, so who knows what they are thinking.

In fact, trying to reason with them is exactly like trying to reason with the druggie crowd.

Just as they pine for the caliphate you druggies want your high.

And every thing and everyone else be damned.

What a peice of work you are. I'd like to see you talk a pothead into blowing themselves up.


179 posted on 11/22/2006 10:56:50 AM PST by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: higgmeister

Okay, you've missed my point. Perhaps it's my fault.

I did not call the Assistant Chief a liar. And I haven't a dog in this fight vis-a-vis whether or not the cops were right or not. I wasn't there, so I can never know what happened.

But, Neal has an AGENDA to advance when he presents this story; he is attempting to show that the War on Drugs has led to an overwhelming increase in the power of the police, and is a dangerous threat to civil liberties, all in the name of a "victimless crime", i.e. recreational drug use.
For almost all libertarians (Neal included), all subjects eventually come back to the stigmas and restrictions attached to "recreational" drug use. Particularly their own recreational use (although I cannot say with any certainty that Neal uses anything stronger than aspirin, and it is certainly not my intention to insinuate that he, personally, does).

Neal, incidentally, so far as I know, has no issue with the CIA wiretapping folks to snoop out terorrists, so I guess that's one trampling of civil liberties he can accept (unless the CIA manages to catch a guy talking to his dealer, and passes it on to local law enforcement for an arrest to be made. This, incidentally, is also the democratic stance against the Patriot Act; that in the process of searching for terrorists, the gov't may turn up evidence of other, unrelated criminal activities and prosecute). Nice way to be consistent, huh?

The way this was presented was to imply that a gross violation of civil rights occurred, without an attempt to put it in the proper context. Neal's objection is NOT that a 92-year old woman was shot, but that she was shot AS A RESULT OF GOVERNMENT PURSUING A FAILED ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY. Especially when said enmforcement strategy is aimed at not improving the state of society, after all, but only stomping upon the rights of the "recreational" drug user.

Just asking for a dash of truth and consistency here, that's all.


180 posted on 11/22/2006 10:57:18 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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