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WOW! ISN'T THIS DRUG WAR GREAT!
Boortz.com ^ | 11-22-2006 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/22/2006 7:35:17 AM PST by Dick Bachert

Atlanta police went to a home on Neal Street in Atlanta last evening to execute a search warrant. When they kicked the door in the only occupant of the home, a 92-year-old woman, started shooting. She hit all three police officers. One in the thigh, one in the arm and another in the shoulder. All police officers will be OK. The woman will not. She was shot and killed by the police.

I'm not blaming the cops here. Not at all. They had a valid search warrant, and they say they were at the right address. Shots were fired, three cops hit, and they returned fire. A 92-year-old woman who was so afraid of crime in her neighborhood that she had burglar bars on every door and window, is now dead.

The blame lies on this idiotic drug war we're waging. We have all the studies we need, all of the comprehensive data is in. We can do a much more effective job of reducing drug use in this country if we'll just take a portion of this money we spend for law enforcement and spend it on treatment programs. A Rand study showed that we can reduce illicit drug usage in this country a specified amount through treatment programs at about 10% of the cost of reducing drug usage by that same amount through criminalization and law enforcement.

There's just something in the American psyche that demands that drug users be punished instead of treated and rehabilitated. We think they're stupid and ignorant for getting mixed up with those drugs in the first place. And you know what? We're right? But look at the messages we send to our children every single day with cigarettes, alcohol, and an endless stream of drug ads on television and in magazines. Drug culture? You bet we have.


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KEYWORDS: cutandrun; donutwatch; druggy; drugwar; hempatarian; leo; stoner; wod; wodlist
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To: All
When drugs are legalized, who is going to sell them, and more importantly, who is going to pay for them? I only ask because I have seen it mentioned on this thread that once legalized, drug dealers would be out of business (although I don't know why, after all, they're not selling a controlled substance anymore), the incentive to import would be gone (okay, are we going to begin growing our own?), and gangs would have the plug pulled on their funding (or they would just steal the now legal narcotics, and sell them at a deep discount on the street).
A nice chunk of the crime related to drugs involves desperate junkies needing their next fix. People who sell everything they own, then resort to theft, prostitution, and whatever else to support their habit. Are these people to receive their drugs for free?
51 posted on 11/22/2006 8:28:10 AM PST by BattleBoar
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To: mutley

"Availability hasn't seemed to have suffered much either, in this war."


By the DEA's own statements, purity of heroin on the streets is the highest it has ever been, and the cost is at a low point.

Supply and demand at work in the illegal drug market?


52 posted on 11/22/2006 8:29:55 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: calex59

Sounds like a ptractical solution.


53 posted on 11/22/2006 8:31:40 AM PST by MinstrelBoy (If you're a Republican today, you're a hero.)
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To: discostu
That is the purest BS and you know it.
If you don't you are simply intentionally unaware or worse.
No Knocks are for the prevention of destruction of evidence and to remove the opportunity of persons with a predilection for violence to access firearms of destroy that evidence.

The rules for execution are available to you. Read them and be aware that ignorance is a danger to us all.
54 posted on 11/22/2006 8:32:08 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Kenya AA and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
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To: SampleMan
The WOD connection is the kick down your door raid that seems to follow it. When have you ever heard of plain clothes officers kicking in a door by suprise visit to investigate a burglary at the wrong address? Happens in the WOD all too often.
55 posted on 11/22/2006 8:32:19 AM PST by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: JamesP81

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservative


56 posted on 11/22/2006 8:33:33 AM PST by rhombus
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To: JamesP81
For the longest time, I was against drug decriminilization. I've catigated Libertarians about being obsessed with drug legalization more than once.

Now, I'm no longer sure that legalization is a bad idea. Obviously, laws against driving under the influence and similar laws would remain, but I'm no longer convinced society is well served by imprisoning someone who uses drugs in their own home where they aren't messing with someone else while doing it.

A quality post. We need more people like you to weigh in on the subject.

57 posted on 11/22/2006 8:34:31 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Dick Bachert
I support cops 100%.
These cops screwed up. I might have missed it, was it a no knock?

Everyone that knows me knows to call before showing up. If you're at my door and you didn't call; I assume the worse, either you're a salesman (and deserving of death) or a cop. Luckily, I'm not a criminal so if it's a cop, he's there for something minor like selling me police man's ball tickets.

These no knock warrants and plain clothes warrants are deadly and need to be stopped. The WOD is not worth an innocent civilian's or cop's life.

58 posted on 11/22/2006 8:35:21 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: higgmeister

You are assuming that the relationship is linear, which is not likely to be true. It never is when discussing the marginal utility of money.


59 posted on 11/22/2006 8:39:48 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: RAY

The article does not indicate if she was or was not a dealer.

ONLY that she was 92.

The article implies there are bars on her windows. Are the bars there to keep other drug dealers out? Did she install them?

Remember dealers use unlikely people (minors, older people) as lookouts.

The article also does not indicate if she lives alone.

too many holes in this story reporting.

need more information.


60 posted on 11/22/2006 8:40:14 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: rhombus
I agree with paleocons on a lot of things, then. Especially the points about small government and anti-authoritarianism. Now, I tend to think that euthanasia (at least when there's not a living will) and abortion, both social issues, should be illegal but both can be framed in non-religious terms: the government's job is to protect individual rights, including the right of the unborn and infirm to live.

In fact, I'm very anti-authoritarian. I only recognize authority that has proven itself worthy of wielding that authority in a manner consistent with our Constitution.

The government cannot legitimately prohibit or compel any behavior except where necessary to prevent the infringement of rights. As for moral issues, it is our job as Christians to work within our communities teaching right from wrong and good from evil to our neighbors. The Framers believed in this system and it worked well for them. We shouldn't have abandoned it so easily.
61 posted on 11/22/2006 8:40:50 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Ever hear of Alberto Sepulveda? The police went to the right house, but still ended up shooting the 11-year old in the back with a shotgun while on the floor complying with orders. "Whoops. Sorry, kid. Have a nice day."


62 posted on 11/22/2006 8:41:12 AM PST by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: dead

"Next time, instead of kicking the door in like you're the A-Team on speed, try ringing the doorbell with a bouquet of flowers and then cuff grandma while you search the house."

They had to get in before she flushed her stash.


63 posted on 11/22/2006 8:42:09 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Dick Bachert

Another reason to legalize pot is to deny Libertarians the one issue that can sooth their pouts and shut them up.


64 posted on 11/22/2006 8:43:25 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: EEDUDE
If the enormous profits to be made from selling drugs were removed, who is going to go to the trouble of bringing the stuff into this country, and for what reason?

I have also somewhat reluctantly concluded that illegal drugs should be legalized in order to defund gangs, reduce mayhem, and (greatly) reduce our prison population. But I have a question:

If drugs are legalized, doesn't that mean that they will be branded, marketed and sold? Will Merck come out with MadDash brand cocaine? Starball Express methamphetimine? How would the (now legal) user get his stash? If consumption were legal but distribution were illegal, you'd have essentially the situation we have now. If manufacture and distribution were legal too, then capitalist forces would end up promoting drug use. How do you resolve that one?

65 posted on 11/22/2006 8:43:39 AM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: JamesP81; EEDUDE
Last study I saw concluded that kids who had attended DARE are more likely to use drugs.

Don't mistake that result for causality, though - it could be that neighborhoods with an extant drug problem are more likely to use the DARE program, thus self-selecting for abusive tendencies.

In any case, there is no evidence that DARE works at all.

66 posted on 11/22/2006 8:44:19 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves; Dick Bachert

"There's just something in the American psyche that demands that drug users be punished instead of treated and rehabilitated."

'Puritan heritage.'

More like 'increasing influence of statist control freaks', acting as 'health Nazis'. From H.L Mencken's obituary of a "latter day Puritan" who was utterly opposed to, as Mencken calls it, "the Prohibition imbecility":

http://www.freebooks.com/docs/html/gncf/appendix_a.htm

In his own position there was never the least shadow of inconsistency. When the Prohibition imbecility fell upon the country, and a multitude of theological quacks, including not a few eminent Presbyterians, sought to read support for it into the New Testament, he attacked them with great vigor, and routed them easily. He not only proved that there was nothing in the teachings of Jesus to support so monstrous a folly; he proved abundantly that the known teachings of Jesus were unalterably against it. And having set forth that proof, he refused, as a convinced and honest Christian, to have anything to do with the dry jehad.

This rebellion against a craze that now seems so incredible and so far away was not the chief cause of his break with his ecclesiastical superiors, but it was probably responsible for a large part of their extraordinary dudgeon against him. The Presbyterian Church, like the other evangelical churches, was taken for a dizzy ride by Prohibition. Led into the heresy by fanatics of low mental visibility, it presently found itself cheek by jowl with all sorts of criminals, and fast losing the respect of sensible people. Its bigwigs thus became extremely jumpy on the subject, and resented bitterly every exposure of their lamentable folly.

In the process of being added to the "verboten substances":
tobacco.

http://www.thirdmill.org/answers/answer.asp/file/99989.qna/category/pt/page/questions/site/iiim

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/webpages54/ap/CigarSmoking.html

http://www.amazon.com/Health-Benefits-Tobacco-Smokers-Paradox/dp/9962636434


67 posted on 11/22/2006 8:45:28 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Dick Bachert

I can only hope grandma's family suit against the department outweighs whatever potential "revenue" the gubmint makes off confiscations.


68 posted on 11/22/2006 8:45:55 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Ueriah

"We're from the gov'ment and we's here to help!"

69 posted on 11/22/2006 8:47:10 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: BattleBoar
re: When drugs are legalized, who is going to sell them, and more importantly, who is going to pay for them?)))

This is where the tire hits the pavement, and what I've always wondered. When I ask a 'tarian "Just how are these recreational drugs going to be manufactured, distributed, and sold?" I get some "principled" fairytale about how the gov ought to get out of everything, like that's going to happen, but I know that this would be a lawsuit/liabiliity nightmare that would choke the courts.

I'd say, let the pothead 'tarians get the capital together to open up their chain of MJ stores.

70 posted on 11/22/2006 8:47:16 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: karnage

"Seizure laws and no-knock warrants seem to violate the 4th Amendment. The gubmint has used the WOD to expand its tyrannical powers. I don't like that."

The bottom line here is that you don't own yourself any longer, the state does.


71 posted on 11/22/2006 8:47:44 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Dick Bachert

I wonder if this 92 year old woman is a casualty of the SCOTUS no-knock decision.


72 posted on 11/22/2006 8:50:49 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: EEDUDE

"Take the profit out of the equation and the problem will be reduced substantially"


Legalization wouldn't take the profit out of the equation. Drugs are the same as any comodity, price is based on supply and demand. To take the profit out of the equatiuon we need to take the demand out. How do we do that?


73 posted on 11/22/2006 8:52:06 AM PST by Figment
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To: Huck

What kind of treatment would be required for someone that smokes a joint on the weekend with some friends?


74 posted on 11/22/2006 8:53:46 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Dick Bachert

"There's just something in the American psyche that demands that drug users be punished instead of treated and rehabilitated."

I'm a big fan of narco-darwinism. If you can do drugs and fulfill your obligations then fine. But don't come crying to me saying "I'm sick," or "I need treatment," or some other horsesh*t.


75 posted on 11/22/2006 8:55:00 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Lx

Girl scouts sell cookies door-to-door, without calling first...


76 posted on 11/22/2006 8:57:24 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: longtermmemmory
need more information.
From news.bbc.co.uk:
Elderly woman dies in shoot-out

A 92-year-old woman has been shot dead after she apparently fired at three police trying to serve a search warrant at her house in Georgia, officials say.

Kathryn Johnson shot the plain-clothed narcotics officers who had approached her home in Atlanta, city police said.

The officers had knocked on the door and announced themselves before forcing it open, the police said.

She was the only person home at the time and had lived there for about 17 years, police said.

One policeman was hit in the arm, another in a thigh and the third in a shoulder.

Assistant Chief Alan Dreher said the officers had a legal warrant and "knocked and announced" before they forced open the door.

He said they were justified in returning fire when they were fired upon.

Her niece said she talked to her aunt every day and the conversation was often about crime in the area.

"Every window in her home and every door on her home has burglar bars," Sarah Dozier told a local newspaper.

"I talked to her the other day about a 72-year-old who was raped. I know she was just scared."

The incident is being investigated by police.


77 posted on 11/22/2006 8:58:13 AM PST by RonDog
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To: rhombus
A 92 year old drug dealer is still a drug dealer.

AND an entrepreneur!

And, now a corpse. She just keeps on morphing.

78 posted on 11/22/2006 9:00:14 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Dick Bachert
No drugs found? Not really surprised.

How many of these do we have to see before people learn...

79 posted on 11/22/2006 9:00:56 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Er, according to CNN:

"As the plainclothes Atlanta police officers approached the house about 7 p.m., a woman inside started shooting, striking each of them, said Officer Joe Cobb, a police spokesman.

One was hit in the arm, another in a thigh and the third in a shoulder. The officers were taken to a hospital for treatment, and all three were conscious and alert, police said."


80 posted on 11/22/2006 9:01:04 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Puppage
She just keeps on morphing.

Now she's a symbolic victim. :-) Whoops, another morph.

81 posted on 11/22/2006 9:02:09 AM PST by rhombus
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To: EEDUDE

Do you think that drug dealers will fold their tents and become upstanding citizens if drugs were legalized? There are always those who claim that most drug dealers are regular folks who just want to make enough to use a little of this or that and are "forced" into being criminals by our archaic drug laws.

Will all drugs be legalized for every age group? Why wouldn't the dealers simply target the still-illegal drugs for the still-underage customers, as many have stated they would do?

Perhaps the displaced drug dealers can open one of the revolving door treatment centers that will spring up, they are fairly lucrative and the customers usually return since the success rate is so low.

In the early 90's in my area, some of the drug profits dipped due to law enforcement crackdowns, so some of the gangs concentrated on robbing banks and stepped up their auto thefts and other property crimes to try and make up the difference. They recruited lots of underage kids to commit these crimes (less consequences, kept the older thugs out of jail). The drug problem is complicated and the criminal culture involved in it won't just go away due to legalization.


82 posted on 11/22/2006 9:03:21 AM PST by Mjaye
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To: Hawthorn
Moreover, one wonders if the perps who busted down her door were wearing body armor? And what kind of weapon and ammo was she using?

Probably an old cap and ball revolver. If it had been anything more modern than that the press would have blamed it on the gun.

83 posted on 11/22/2006 9:04:00 AM PST by Kenton
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To: Puppage
How many drug dealers get a gun permit?

This was a bad deal from the get go. An hours worth of real investigation would have shown their "annonymous informant" was full of sh*t. Too bad cops apparently don't do real police work any more.

84 posted on 11/22/2006 9:04:39 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: lafroste

"If drugs are legalized, doesn't that mean that they will be branded, marketed and sold? Will Merck come out with MadDash brand cocaine? Starball Express methamphetimine? How would the (now legal) user get his stash? If consumption were legal but distribution were illegal, you'd have essentially the situation we have now. If manufacture and distribution were legal too, then capitalist forces would end up promoting drug use. How do you resolve that one?"

If drugs are legalized they won't be sold for long. The addicts will soon lose any ability to make a living and so will again resort to theft for their habits.

Then the government will step in and "give" the addicts whatever drugs they demand. This has happened in Holland and Switzerland and is going to soon be done in the UK.

And the same people here who talk about how they are for less government will have brought about the government keeping God knows how many people addicted to drugs and otherwise cared for.

It's lunacy of the first order.


85 posted on 11/22/2006 9:05:29 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Dick Bachert

I'd like to nominate, posthumously of course, this 92 year old sharpshooter for the NRA Woman of the Year award. Door gets kicked in, and she gets off 3 shots and 3 hits. Outstanding. And I also like to nominate the 3 a$$hole cops for the Janet Reno/Waco Civil Rights Common Sense award. Don't show up at her door at 10:00 in the morning in broad daylight wearing uniforms, show up in the dark wearing plain clothes and kick in the door. Brilliant.

How do imbeciles rise to such lofty position of power and authority.

Check out http://www.cato.org/raidmap/ to see all of the stupidity on parade prizes that have happened. It would be funny if it wasn't deadly serious and kept the funeral homes busy.

I watched an episode of Dallas SWAT on A&E once and was shocked by the mentality of some of these jack booted thugs. I remember one of the only chicks on there describing what was going on in a certain episode as not being the "fun" part . I wished then for the ability to reach through the TV screen and slap her as hard as I possibly could.


86 posted on 11/22/2006 9:06:58 AM PST by rednesss
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To: rhombus
"Now she's a symbolic victim."

She's symbolic of something, that's for sure.

87 posted on 11/22/2006 9:07:10 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: stuartcr

Maybe a cold one? Some snacks?


88 posted on 11/22/2006 9:07:54 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Dick Bachert

We had a drug house next door to us in an upper middle class neighborhood in CA, that was owned by a little old lady, the grandmother of the drug dealer and his girl friend. They used to keep the drugs in a pipe in the front lawn, with a big guard dog chained right next to the pipe, so that anyone looking for the drugs wouldn't have enter the house. I guess maybe you'd prefer that in your neighborhood.


89 posted on 11/22/2006 9:08:14 AM PST by Eva
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To: rednesss

"I'd like to nominate, posthumously of course, this 92 year old sharpshooter for the NRA Woman of the Year award. Door gets kicked in, and she gets off 3 shots and 3 hits. Outstanding. And I also like to nominate the 3 a$$hole cops for the Janet Reno/Waco Civil Rights Common Sense award. Don't show up at her door at 10:00 in the morning in broad daylight wearing uniforms, show up in the dark wearing plain clothes and kick in the door. Brilliant."

Most reports have this kindly old lady shooting the police officers as they approached her house.

But don't let such details get in the way of your desire to suck your bong.


90 posted on 11/22/2006 9:08:37 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: BattleBoar
Regarding people resorting to prostitution/theft/other crime to support their habits, don't you think this would be greatly reduced if they didn't have to pay inflated black-market prices? The incentive for dealers is money. Why buy a product on the street when it can be purchased in a store (generally speaking)? If it's at a huge discount, fantastic! Let these drug-addled bums buy if for pennies on the dollar so they don't break into my house and get shot trying to steal my possessions! Better yet, they don't stab me or kill someone I care about trying to get the money to pay for another day. Have them go to a drug store (not a general type store) where there are armed guards all over the place!

Imagine two heroin addicts with the same habit (use quantity). One is an ordinary Joe, the other a famous actor. As the cost of heroin goes up, due to greater enforcement (e.g. tax dollars spent), the two junkies spend more. More enforcement, greater risk/liability of the dealer, higher premium on the product.

Now, the cost has crossed the point where the "ordinary" Joe (minus that heroin addiction, of course) can no longer afford it, and probably doesn't really get it from a consistent source anyway. So, he ends up stealing a bit, trading for heroin. Maybe pawns some jewelry. Then, his habit gets worse, more expensive and he's getting to the point of robbing (the "ordinary Jane" might have been hooking by now). Now, you've got a junkie, who can't support a habit/addiction, trying to find money to pay inflated prices for unsafe/unregulated black market product, most likely helping spread HIV, HEP-C, etc.

The actor hasn't had any trouble with cost/product and hasn't resorted to crime to continue his habit. This hypothetical is really only on the consumer side anyway, nevermind what happens on the dealer/supply side where the serious violence occurrs over mega-bucks. These billions of dollars are partly to blame for our illegal immigration problem, considering who is in control of the money and the corruption that follows.

91 posted on 11/22/2006 9:09:01 AM PST by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: Sam Hill

Drugs don't do anything for me there buddy, suck on your own bong. I am however a huge fan of the Bill of Rights. The 4th amendment more precisely.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


92 posted on 11/22/2006 9:11:31 AM PST by rednesss
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To: Huck

Sounds appropriate.


93 posted on 11/22/2006 9:13:00 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: All

According to a report on Instapundit.com, the officers were being fired at AS THEY APPROACHED THE HOUSE, rather than after having busted the door in.

Which kinda makes sense: you gonna tell me a 92-yr old woman squeezed off 3 shots and got three hits on targets less than 10 feet away, and who were somehow unable to overpower her?


94 posted on 11/22/2006 9:13:07 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Squeako

"Regarding people resorting to prostitution/theft/other crime to support their habits, don't you think this would be greatly reduced if they didn't have to pay inflated black-market prices? The incentive for dealers is money. Why buy a product on the street when it can be purchased in a store (generally speaking)? If it's at a huge discount, fantastic! Let these drug-addled bums buy if for pennies on the dollar so they don't break into my house and get shot trying to steal my possessions! Better yet, they don't stab me or kill someone I care about trying to get the money to pay for another day. Have them go to a drug store (not a general type store) where there are armed guards all over the place!"

How much money can a crack addict or a heroin addict make?

The answer is none. They can't hold jobs. So no matter how cheap legalized drugs become, they will still be too expensive for those who are addicted to them.

So you will either have more crime (because of increased addiction) or you will have the gubmint giving out heroin like candy to anyone who wants it. (Which is happening in Europe.)

All the libertarians who claim to be for smaller government should love paying for drugs for addicts -- plus their upkeep for the rest of their lives.

Good thinking there! George Soros is very proud of you!


95 posted on 11/22/2006 9:13:36 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: rednesss

Oh, I just assumed you were stoned since you are ignoring the apparent fact that these officers were shot at as they ***approached the house.***

I missed that right in the Fourth Amendment.


96 posted on 11/22/2006 9:15:29 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Dick Bachert

The lamebrain media is portraying this as a legitimate drug raid and legitimate killing.
In reality, it's a murder of the innocent homeowner protecting her life and property from an unknown armed intruder.


97 posted on 11/22/2006 9:18:48 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (fascism in any form is WRONG!)
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To: rednesss

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

You also missed the fact that they had a valid search warrant.


98 posted on 11/22/2006 9:18:50 AM PST by Sam Hill
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I would be willing to bet that the reason drugs are NOT legalgalized in this country is, in large part, due to the bribing of officials to make sure the golden goose isn't slain. Flame away if you want, but this time maybe, just maybe, you could try using your heads to think with instead of your emotions.

I think you are saying the drug dealers might be bribing the officials, that may be true. I know for a fact though that the police lobby like crazy for the war on drugs and they especially like the forfeiture laws. The war on drugs is great job security and increased funding for the police, courts and prisons. It's a win win situation for the police, drug dealers and politicians.

We the people are the losers.

99 posted on 11/22/2006 9:19:37 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Man, all the Soros stooges are showing up.

You can buy a lot of internet outrage for $50 million dollars.


100 posted on 11/22/2006 9:19:54 AM PST by Sam Hill
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