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Mary Cheney's pregnancy affects us all
Townhall ^ | 12/07/2006 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 12/07/2006 7:16:54 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: little jeremiah
"A man (rarely a woman) who is not restrained by moral law; one who leads a licentious life. Acknowledging no law in religion or morals;... Loose in morals,; licentious, dissolute..."

Nice......g'day, g'night, whatever it may be for you.....put me on your ping list if you have one. Regards.

341 posted on 12/07/2006 11:48:41 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: little jeremiah

"Just this final thought: "

O, could we only believe that were true! :)

As to the "libertine" comment, I knew you would not recognize it as humor. I've never seen you recognize humor in ANYone's posts.


342 posted on 12/07/2006 11:48:46 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Responsibility2nd
I'm on Free Republic.

You however, might be on DU, as you seem to buy their arguement that Clinton's behavior was "just about sex" and not about perjery, abuse of power and obstruction of justice; hook, line and sinker.

343 posted on 12/07/2006 11:49:51 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: petitfour

you are correct---I was not strictly correct. Someone closely related to Jefferson may have been the father, but considering that it was an "open secret" at the time, I would conclude that it is more than reasonable that Thomas Jefferson had illegitimate children.


344 posted on 12/07/2006 11:49:52 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: Stone Mountain
Bingo. You have a career. You still sound like a good parent to me.

My wife also had a job. We agreed that she would give up her job after the baby was born and we'd downsize our lifestyle accordingly so that WE, not some 3rd party, would raise our own kids. There is a difference between having one parent home and having none and plenty of studies have bourne that out.

I agree with this. I just don't understand why you believe that Mary Cheney would be more likely to fall into this category than any other parent out there.

Personally, I could care less about Mary Cheney. If not for the fact that her bizarre pregnancy and "family" is now going to be paraded before us for the next 9 months non-stop, I wouldn't even give her a second thought.
345 posted on 12/07/2006 11:50:40 AM PST by Antoninus (Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
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To: ChurtleDawg

"and laws about juvenile delinquency, public indecency and sex in public are completely irrelevant to this discussion.."

Gay Pride parades consist of public indecency, nudity, live sex acts, and children are witnesses and participants in the parades. So it is germane to the discussion.

And "free speech" didn't mean live sex acts, public nudity and so on until the ACLU teamed up with porn producers a la Larry Flynt. Thanks, ACLU and porn producers!


346 posted on 12/07/2006 11:51:01 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: zbigreddogz
It's pretty clear the discussion of Mary Cheney's kid is big "P" Political.

Clear to you.

The rest of us have stated over and over that we are not offering political arguments or demanding that our politicians do anythign about it.

Strawmen.

347 posted on 12/07/2006 11:51:42 AM PST by SoothingDave (Are you on the list?)
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To: linda_22003

Thanks for your constnat snide inner circle humor. You forgot your cutesy little smiley, or maybe I didn't notice it, since you splatter them so liberally about your comments.


348 posted on 12/07/2006 11:52:35 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

so you are admitting that Jefferon, Washington and Adams did write about anything like this

so explain to me what your point was in invoking them on this issue?


349 posted on 12/07/2006 11:53:22 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

I got a couple - Moral Absolutes and Homosexual Agenda. Wagglebee does them too; lately I've been busy but I seem to find the time lately!

Freepmail me which one/s you want on and I'll add your name.

Regards - I'm really off now!


350 posted on 12/07/2006 11:53:40 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
Maragine and live sex shows have nothing in common.

Except when.......oh, never mind.
351 posted on 12/07/2006 11:54:02 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: Stone Mountain
That's assuming an awful lot with thin gruel. I don't see that as good evidence or any indication at all that Mary Cheney will put her career ahead of taking care of her child.

Not really. I've known a lot of lesbians. Resentment of parents for whatever reason (absentee-ism prevalent among them) seems to be a common thread. That and abuse at the hands of the trusted men in their lives and other severe mental illnesses (eating disorders, depression, anger, anxiety).

Lesbianism isn't anything like what the TV-talkshows and porn-sites make it out to be. It's a destructive and sad lifestyle for women who have often truly suffered. People who enable their delusion aren't helping matters. Only making things worse.
352 posted on 12/07/2006 11:55:31 AM PST by Antoninus (Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
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To: drjimmy
....and I don't care if my comment results in a visit from the police.

...and to ensure that the casual observer knows I mean it, I'll stand by that.

It's not a threat of unwarranted violence; it's a caution to Islamofascists that if you attack, expect a swift response.

If the cops show up at my door, I hope they accept the coffee and conversation.

353 posted on 12/07/2006 11:55:57 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: drjimmy

Remember, it won't be seen as humor.


354 posted on 12/07/2006 11:56:04 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: ChurtleDawg

LOL! They also didn't denounce live sex shows, cannibalism, gay bath houses, although every state had strict anti-sodomy laws, which was fine with them. In fact, Jefferson loosened the punishment for sodomy from death to mere castration since he was an enlightened gentleman. They also never mentioned sado-masochism, teaching fisting in schools, nor scat rolling.

There were no laws then against internet porn, or, as far as I know, child prostitution.

Your argument is like people who say that since Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, it's a-okay according to the Bible.

What is your point, then?


355 posted on 12/07/2006 11:56:59 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
Maragine and live sex shows have nothing in common.

You spelled "margarine" wrong. ;-)

356 posted on 12/07/2006 11:58:02 AM PST by SoothingDave (Are you on the list?)
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To: ChurtleDawg
What I want is the government - Dick Cheney included - not being all so happy that lesbian rights are promoted. It wasn't very long ago, that the government DID outlaw the type of behavior Mary is engaing in.

Take my pick, you say? No problem, I'll take responsibility anytime. That means morality. That means the Government has a duty to promote pro-family values. Cheney is perhaps to blame for the Republicans losing the '06 elections. He - naturally - has to support his daughter, I would too if I were him. But The White House has given lip service to moral conversatives, and it cost them. Big time.

do you want to let people live their life the way they wish as long as they are not hurting others?

As has been established... Mary Cheney's actions are hurting us all. They are adding to the lack of values that made this Country great. So while I don't want the Government to regulate who can and can't have kids, I want policies in force with responsible people in office that promote anti-gay, pro-family values.

357 posted on 12/07/2006 11:58:10 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: linda_22003
Remember, it won't be seen as humor.

In order for something to be seen as humor, it should be funny.
358 posted on 12/07/2006 11:58:18 AM PST by Antoninus (Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
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To: little jeremiah
Gay Pride parades consist of public indecency, nudity, live sex acts, and children are witnesses and participants in the parades. So it is germane to the discussion.

Perposterous. That's like saying swimming in lakes consists of skinny dipping. It might, it might not. Either way, public nudity is already illegal, so it's not a reason to ban lake swimming.

359 posted on 12/07/2006 11:58:40 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: drjimmy

so drjimmy, if you aren't prepared to defend your country, the weak, the old, those of less strength, then shut up and walk.


360 posted on 12/07/2006 11:59:44 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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