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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Reaction Thread - SPOILERS!!!!
me | 7/21/2007 | me

Posted on 07/21/2007 5:18:11 PM PDT by JenB

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To: Maigrey

Actually, IIRC, it was Bella that taught Draco.


601 posted on 07/23/2007 12:04:30 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: JenB; TalonDJ; Lil'freeper; SuziQ

I’m going to have to go back now and re-read the whole series. I just can’t decide if I want to read DH again first and then start over or go back to the very beginning.

I need a week at the beach...


602 posted on 07/23/2007 12:05:27 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I drink coffee for your protection.)
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To: Elyse

;-)


603 posted on 07/23/2007 12:06:33 PM PDT by retrokitten
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
LV had the Elder Wand. He stole it from DD's tomb.

Harry was explaining to LV why the wand wouldn't work for him, because he didn't "win" it, he stole it.

LV, in all his arrogance, refused to believe this and thought his AK would kill Harry. (will he never learn??)

604 posted on 07/23/2007 12:06:50 PM PDT by andyssister (It's finally here!)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
it's pretty pathetic that we are discussing what two fictional characters were thinking during their (potential) last moments on Earth.

Nah, we're having a good time. That's one of the reasons I like the books, sometimes you need a break from all the BS out there.

605 posted on 07/23/2007 12:06:56 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: TalonDJ
That scene I found very stirring and it only further built up the one later where Neville actually did against certain death, what he was asked to do.

Yup. It points out the awesome responsibilities of leadership. There are people who will die trying to do what they're told to do. A leader must ensure that his orders really are worth dying for.

For a counter-example, there have been some recent stories about a new monument at Passchendaele -- a place where tens of thousands died to no good purpose, other than Haig's arrogance. He and his staff didn't even visit the battle area, and certainly didn't know about the hellish conditions under which their soldiers fought and died for no gain.

The way Harry was there at the last moment to save him from the result

I gotta go back and re-read that part.

606 posted on 07/23/2007 12:08:39 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Corin Stormhands
I need a week at the beach...

I just had a great image of all us FR Potterheads sitting around under umbrellas, sipping adult beverages, and BS-in' about all the books. What fun that would be!

607 posted on 07/23/2007 12:09:05 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
Harry just gets through telling Voldy that the reason he couldn’t get the wand he got from DD’s hand to work correctly was because he (Voldy) didn’t have the Elder wand. Draco took it from DD during the battle at the top of the Astronomy Tower and that since Harry took the very same wand from Draco he now possessed the Elder Wand.

No, Malfoy's wand -- that Harry was wielding -- was hawthorn, not elder. Voldy *did* have the Elder Wand; he just wasn't master of it.

608 posted on 07/23/2007 12:09:26 PM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Politicalmom

Lol, that would have been funny to see. Could you imagine Snape in his old age? Talk about a cranky old man.


609 posted on 07/23/2007 12:09:27 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: Politicalmom

Harry didn’t want to learn occlumency. Period. He wanted to see what was behind the door.

The only person that could have taught him occlumency imo, would have been Dumbledore. Dumbledore admitted it was his mistake for not telling Harry why it was so important to learn it because of what he feared Voldemort might try to do (which V consequently did do.)


610 posted on 07/23/2007 12:09:42 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Gryffindor '88 Arthur Weasley will be named the Minister of Magic. Snape will die a hero.)
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To: schwing_wifey
Isn’t the line “only the journey is written, not the destination”?

Similar lines have been written in many places.

I'd guess yours is from one of the Hobbit books?

611 posted on 07/23/2007 12:10:35 PM PDT by null and void (We are a Nation of Laws... IGNORED Laws...)
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To: TalonDJ
The things DD asked Snape to do were truly difficult in the way that they asked him to do evil acts, risk life and limb and more, and to be subject to the hatred of all who were good and nice. To betray and appear to betray all around him.

I'm probably going too far, but the Argentinian writer Borges had a short story which portrayed Judas as the key Christian sacrifice. (I don't think Borges invented this, I think it's an idea that's been played with for centuries.) The idea is that someone has to commit evil, and then be hated by the world forever. It's hard to sign up for that kind of role. But if you love humanity, and if you know that the task of betrayal must be done, then you step up. Snape did it. Borges (for the sake of a story) said that Judas did it as well.

I don't mean to imply that there is any theological validity to this.

Anti-heroes are fascinating.

612 posted on 07/23/2007 12:10:58 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
Speaking about Pottergeeks, it's pretty pathetic that we are discussing what two fictional characters were thinking during their (potential) last moments on Earth.

And getting some pretty good comments about it, too ... which is what good writing is supposed to do. JK wins again!

613 posted on 07/23/2007 12:11:08 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: TightyRighty
Talk about a cranky old man.

Yup, him and Filtch writing rambling letters to the editor in the Daily Prophet.

614 posted on 07/23/2007 12:11:30 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim; cuz_it_aint_their_money
it's pretty pathetic that we are discussing what two fictional characters were thinking during their (potential) last moments on Earth.

It would be pathetic if you were dressed as a wizard or witch while discussing said fictional characters.

I'll be back after I change.

615 posted on 07/23/2007 12:11:34 PM PDT by retrokitten
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

Voldemort use the AK curse because on p. 743 it says that Harry saw Voldemort’s green jet meet his own spell, saw the Elder Wand fly high..... the AK curse is always described as a green jet in every instance that it is used. Also Voldemort had the Elder Wand but the actual power of the wand was in Draco’s wand, it transferred it’s power to Draco’s when Draco sent Dumbledore’s wand flying. The power is what made the wand not the actual wand. That is why the Dumbledore’s wand was buried with him and didn’t do Voldemort any good, it had Draco’s wand’s power. This is JMO> :)


616 posted on 07/23/2007 12:11:37 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: JenB

Good point.

I want to know what happened to Luna Lovegood and her father! Couldn’t the author have given us one more paragraph?


617 posted on 07/23/2007 12:12:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Go ahead and water the lawn - my give-a-damn's busted.")
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To: TightyRighty; Politicalmom
Lol, that would have been funny to see. Could you imagine Snape in his old age? Talk about a cranky old man.

He might even post on FR as ... say ... notaneoliberal.

618 posted on 07/23/2007 12:13:09 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: retrokitten
It would be pathetic if you were dressed as a wizard or witch while discussing said fictional characters.

I'm wearing my Golden Snitch Jammies.

619 posted on 07/23/2007 12:13:27 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
sitting around under umbrellas, sipping adult beverages, and BS-in' about all the books

And you've got a lovely oceanfront property there in New Mexico, right? :-).

Who's buying?

620 posted on 07/23/2007 12:13:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Go ahead and water the lawn - my give-a-damn's busted.")
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