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Whites - Don't Deserve a White History Month
My Nissan Frontier | 02/27/2009 | Reuters

Posted on 02/27/2009 11:43:46 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

So here I was - taking my daughter to school this morning (She is a high school sophomore) and she was telling me of a discussion she and the other kids were having about Black History Month.

One kid suggested that - to be fair - there should be a White History Month. He was quickly chastised; "Whites don't deserve a special history month due to the racial prejudices they've committed over the years". My daughter related some of the "Rosa Parks" types of incidents as evidence of why there should be no White History Month.

It was early. I was driving and had not yet had my first cup of coffee. And so I was speechless.

Freepers… What would YOU have said?


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KEYWORDS: blackhistorymonth; politicalcorrectness; prejudice; racialbias; racism; reverseracism; whitehistorymonth
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To: mountn man

Since when have facts swayed liberal/victim thinking?


101 posted on 02/27/2009 12:18:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Ask why Obama was admitted to Columbia and Harvard Law on grades and test scores that were inferior to most of the other applicants.

Ask why someone only needs a C grade when others need A’s.


102 posted on 02/27/2009 12:19:37 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: puffer

“The world mocks us, belittles us, penalizes us, taxes us and marginalizes us as best it can because it knows that when we get pissed off enough, we start manipulating viruses, messing with people’s genes and building giant killer robots.”

I’m not so sure anymore. When all that stuff happens whites just vote for Barack H. Obama.


103 posted on 02/27/2009 12:20:59 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I have not committed racial prejudices over the years! This person is a blatant racist and I want it prosecuted for a hate crime!


104 posted on 02/27/2009 12:21:39 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is truly evil. and liberals have no sense of humor either.)
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To: mnehrling
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.-Ayn Rand

I have always said that without individual freedom there is no freedom. With collective freedom that means they can single out any individual and do whatever they want as long as they leave the "collective" intact. Individual freedom is the only way to guarantee freedom to everyone.

105 posted on 02/27/2009 12:21:59 PM PST by calex59
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To: txnativegop
I am curious, A white South African, whose family lived in South Africa for 3 centuries, is an African-American by definition, yet they are denied that description by the schools, and government agencies.

Indeed. It is a misnomer. A platitude. A pointless and incorrect label. The government insists on labels so they can parcel out their largess to those with the favored labels.

106 posted on 02/27/2009 12:22:05 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Responsibility2nd

I would say something like what my mother used to say when we asked why there wasn’t a Children’s Day.


107 posted on 02/27/2009 12:22:50 PM PST by firebrand
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To: puffer

Ah yes.

Whitey created the AIDS virus against black folks.

I forgot that one.


108 posted on 02/27/2009 12:22:59 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Myrddin

Must be. Because I can’t find an African American in my box of crayons.


109 posted on 02/27/2009 12:23:25 PM PST by FearlessFreep (Never bring a fart to a sh#t fight.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Read, www.colorofcrime.com


110 posted on 02/27/2009 12:23:43 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: Califreak

My children have been forced to participate in black history month pageants. Some kid started a rumor that students who don’t participate will be expelled.”

IF any ‘teacher’ of ‘principal’ told my kid that he/she would get an earful—as I took the kid and started home schooling somehow someway. I could probably pay a retired neighbor to teach my kids and it would cost less than a tutor.


111 posted on 02/27/2009 12:29:13 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Responsibility2nd

How about, Red-neck, white boy, peckerwood month? I know a great candidate for a guest speaker to kick off the celebration.


112 posted on 02/27/2009 12:29:18 PM PST by ssapro (SSAPRO/ EXBP)
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To: TheThinker; wideawake; Ethan Clive Osgoode
I don’t know what I would have said to her but I’m tired of having to worship at the altar of black pride.

Georges Sorel, a syndicalist and hero of Mussolini, said that in order to carry out its "historic mission" the working class needed heroic myths. The Left long ago abandoned the "working class" for "oppressed nations" so the "myth of the general strike" advocated by Sorel has been replaced with a bizarre "Communism of blood and soil" in which Marxism is mixed with what would otherwise be recognized as an extreme and militant right wing nationalism straight out of nineteenth century European romanticism.

The Left has thus stolen the platform of a man they actually despised during his own lifetime--Marcus Garvey. Garvey was hated and detested by the Communists and the NAACP and was in fact a "right wing extremist" and admirer of Adolf Hitler (mach shemo!). But anyway, in the place of the "working class" being taught the "myth of the general strike" we have Blacks being indoctrinated in a fanatical nationalism and a pan-African patriotism that makes Theodore Roosevelt's jingoism look positively seditious.

The leaders of the Left know that the line they borrowed from the Nazis and are feeding to Blacks ("We infented zivilisation!") isn't true, but that's not the point. The point is to enable the "oppressed nation" to carry out the "historic purpose" once reserved for the nationless world proletariat.

Furthermore, what most Americans do not understand is that American Blacks are neither the only, nor even the first, ethnic group to be "adopted" by the Left in this way. This same blend of mystical nationalism and Communism (in which Karl Marx becomes a sort of naturalized nationalistic totem for the "oppressed nation") can be used with any ethnic group. In the British Isles and Brittany, Celtic nationalism has the Leftist Seal of Approval. In Spain it is the Basques. In Canada it is the French Canadians of Quebec, who are hardly "indigenous pipples" or "people of color." And of course beyond the Blacks in the United States the same sweet deal of socialism-without-having-to-hate-yourself has been offered to Hispanics, "native Americans," Melungeons, Eskimos, Hawai'ians, Japanese-Americans, Arabs/moslems, and even women and homosexuals (who supposedly were abducted from their mystical native arcadias of "Womanland" and "Gayland," respectively). And throughout the nineteenth century, when romantic nationalism was really getting going, it was almost always mixed with socialism. "Patriots" from Ireland to Armenia saw in socialism the ultimate form of self-celebration.

I have often maintained that no aspect of the Left is so open to parody as this mystical Nationalist Communism. Someone should begin a movement that exposes Leftist nationalism by mimicking it with a group that should by all rights have been adopted by the Left by now but for some mysterious reason hasn't (at least not since Jerry Brown): the Cajuns of Louisiana.

I propose a militant socialist Cajun National Liberation Army whose goal is the liberation of Louisiana in behalf of its indigenous population of French-speaking Roman Catholic Cajuns, who have lived there from the Dawn of Time until the Foreign Devil and his alien internationalist ideology of capitalism displaced them. Furthermore, the goal is to liberate not merely the State of Louisiana as it exists today, but Restored Socialist Louisiana, which shall consist of the entire Louisiana Territory purchased from Napoleon. This is the rightful homeland of the oppressed indigenous Cajun people, who should be instructed that their ancient ancestors were in fact Communists, and that Communism, far from being a radical break from the past, is the Restoration of True Cajun-ness In All Things. I furthermore propose as the symbol of this movement a picture of Karl Marx in Cajun garb trapping crawdads out of a bayou.

Moreover, while not actually true, the oppressed Cajun people will need an irrational myth to enable them to perform their historic mission. They should be taught that Cajuns have lived in Louisiana from Time Immemorial and invented civilization, but that their true heritage has been stolen from them by The Man. Children throughout the United States must be taught Cajun history and Cajun patriotism must be built up to Mussolinian levels even as the guilty Americans made to loathe themselves.

Now doesn't this sound like a plan???

All kidding aside, I have often wondered why the Left doesn't simply offer everyone, including the evil oppressive Trailer Trash the same deal it offers everyone else. It would certainly make for less opposition to their program and perhaps advance their program that much quicker. However, I have come to see the inherent Hegelianism of the Left, and this Hegelianism demands a "bad guy?--and "antithesis" against which the "good guys" struggle and, ultimately, triumph. And unfortunately, right now that antithesis is suppled by the United States of America in general (please note, the world's most "artificial" nation, not having sprung "organically" from the soil) and white trash.

Nothing is more frustrating than the naive belief of some on the Left that it offers the same deal to everyone. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

113 posted on 02/27/2009 12:29:46 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m more thankful everyday that my wife and I homeschool our kids.


114 posted on 02/27/2009 12:30:34 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Whites don't deserve a special history month due to the racial prejudices they've committed over the years".>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Beg to differ.


115 posted on 02/27/2009 12:33:22 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Something about blacks sold other blacks into slavery and never did a d@mn thing to free them and how slavery persists there even now. Also, about how blacks slave revolts (like Haiti) ended badly even if the slaves won. And finally point out that, while it persists in Africa, whites ended slavery in much of the rest of world, and, in America, we fought to free them (not exactly true, but close enough...).
Point out at that Africans harbor tremendous racism based on stuff we wouldn’t even notice (Hutus vs. Tutsis). Point out to her what hellholes many black-governed nations are and, far from being victims of colonialism, they squandered their colonial legacy.
Also ask her to name 10 accomplishments of Africans in Africa that changed the world. (Also point out that blacks do better in the US than Africa, for instance Dr. Charles Drew who invented improved blood storage techniques that saved thousands of lives in WWII).
Also ask her to name an African epic equal in scope and influence to The Illiad and Oddessey, The Aeneid, The Ring Cycle, the Song of Roland or the Arthurian Cycle.

I guess Publik Screwl really does suck.


116 posted on 02/27/2009 12:33:55 PM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: MrB

What’s made me so angry in the past couple of years is my realization of the level of black hatred and racism directed toward white people,”

It is prevelant in all the ‘music’ that the blacks produce and get kudos for. Kids listen to crap and don’t realize they are being indoctrinated even more. I would like parents to block downloads into their kids music toys, and to regularly make them play what they have on their devices—then make them eliminate the trash or lose the device. Those devices amount to portable indoctrination, as the kids have them in their ears all the time.


117 posted on 02/27/2009 12:35:43 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Myrddin

American: (my definition)

1. any person, born or naturalized, to citizenship in the United States of America. Said person can be of any ethnicity, skin color or linguistic heritage. Almost every language in the world in spoken by at least 1 American citizen. Their common language is English. They enjoy more individual freedoms than any other person living on the planet. Uniformly individualistic, idealistic and committed to the Constitutional Republic in which they live.

At least that is the way an American should be. 8)


118 posted on 02/27/2009 12:35:50 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: ridesthemiles

IF my kids are allowed to have some device like that, I will use the indoctrination for the good... that is, for the Glory of God, by having them listen to glorifying stuff that helps their lives.


119 posted on 02/27/2009 12:37:39 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Little Ray

Thank you. All very good points.

This one stand out....

Also ask her to name 10 accomplishments of Africans in Africa that changed the world.


120 posted on 02/27/2009 12:40:02 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: ridesthemiles

You described about 20 to 25 percent of the students in my school. There are more good kids out there than many suspect. There are some major turds as I see you are aware. We have a population though, where I would estimate that 90% are “churched”.


121 posted on 02/27/2009 12:40:11 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

How about a white history month strictly because it was a white-european-American ideal to end slavery and free all people.

Don’t black folks still own slaves in Africa?


122 posted on 02/27/2009 12:40:12 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
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To: ridesthemiles
Blacks who didn’t EVER pick cotton on a plantation under the OWNERSHIP of a land owner should get special recognition???

I picked cotton in the HOT Texas sun for many summers. Do I get special recognition?

123 posted on 02/27/2009 12:40:25 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (It took 250 years to make the USA great and 30 days for BO to tear it down.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Their arguement is that because blacks aren’t in positions of authority, they can’t be racists. They like to pretend that no black has ever risen above the level of lackey.

This is blatantly untrue. However poor most Blacks may be, thanks to their "friends" in academia and the media they wield a terrifying amount of power.

In one speech, one man (Jesse Jackson) banished the term "Black" and replaced it with "African-American." Apparently any Black person in the nation, however poor, has the power to ban the "f-word" at any time but choose not to because the "f-word" is a weapon of the "oppressed." Furthermore, any Black person in America (with the possible exception of that famous "Uncle Tom" Clarence Thomas) could walk out into a deserted street and scream, and the national media would be there in five minutes. Furthermore, this Black person could make up any story out of whole cloth and accuse an innocent white person of something and that white person would be guilty automatically, not because he is literally guilty (which isn't important) but because the Hegelian philosophy demands that the counterrevolutionary "antithesis" is always guilty and the revolutionary "thesis" is always wronged. Personally, I'm surprised that the entire prison system hasn't been emptied and the prison population reconstituted on the basis of statistical population.

Blacks may be poor as dirt, but right now they are the most powerful segment of the entire population.

I realize I sound very bitter on this thread, and for that I apologize. I'm an old Civil War Unionist/Republican from the Upper South and I used to look up to and admire Black Americans so much. Unfortunately, people have a tendency to let you down, and when I am let down I tend to be somewhat bitter.

124 posted on 02/27/2009 12:40:38 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: txnativegop
American: (my definition)...

Your definition leaves Obama out!

125 posted on 02/27/2009 12:41:13 PM PST by DaveyB (A government's ability to give is proportionate to their power to take away!)
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To: DaveyB

I would say I am sorry, but I am not, so I won’t.

America Love It, Live It, or Leave It.


126 posted on 02/27/2009 12:42:14 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: aliquando

“Nobody deserves a special month. Just teach history.”
Exactly, only the insecure need a ‘highlight’ month.


127 posted on 02/27/2009 12:42:26 PM PST by HarleyWoodrowMantz
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To: Responsibility2nd

Heaven forbid they replace Oprah with George Washington in history books!


128 posted on 02/27/2009 12:43:30 PM PST by lonestar
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To: mountn man

The problem with the leftist world view is the fact that they view people through members-of-a-group tinted glasses instead of viewing them and their merits and demerits on an individual basis. Leftists are collectivists,not individualists.


129 posted on 02/27/2009 12:44:05 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: o_zarkman44
How about just having a “History Month” since we are all Americans?

Feb. was originally American History Month because of the birthdays of Washington and Lincoln. Black History Month began as Negro History Week, one week in Feb. to remember the contributions of Blacks to American history.

Now American History Month is as extinct as Washington's Birthday, replaced by the new nationalism of the "oppressed."

130 posted on 02/27/2009 12:44:09 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: Candor7

I think we all would deserve a special month if we were forced to smell that guy’s armpits.


131 posted on 02/27/2009 12:44:10 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I picked cotton in the HOT Texas sun for many summers. Do I get special recognition?”

You picked cotton and I picked strawberries.

Guess we need a special category for those kids of jobs.

But—the guy who owned the strawberry farm did NOT OWN me.


132 posted on 02/27/2009 12:44:34 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: pappyone
I would have said: “Daughter, I have failed in my duties to see to it that you have a proper education”

And continued with, "You are never going to set foot in that indoctrination center again. From this day forward, I'm going to teach you myself".

133 posted on 02/27/2009 12:44:44 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: aliquando

There are some major turds as I see you are aware.”

A couple of those major turds have been breaking into barns-garages-trucks-trailers out here in the rural area.

Supposedly, they finally got caught, but I am fearful they will get out on bail and get no serious time in the slammer for their transgressions.

IF they come here, it will end their crime life. Mr Remington does not stand for that crap.


134 posted on 02/27/2009 12:46:46 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ZULU
No, what we need is an Irish American History Month, Scottish American History Month, British American History Month, Lithuanian American History month - etc!!!

Why do you conflate the English with "British" while allowing the Irish and Scots their own separate identities?

The English are a nation every bit as much as the Irish, Welsh, and Scots.

135 posted on 02/27/2009 12:48:15 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Yeah, O.K. the English, as well as the Cornish and the Manx.

O.K.?


136 posted on 02/27/2009 12:49:04 PM PST by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"Also ask her to name 10 accomplishments of Africans in Africa that changed the world."

1) They actually appreciated Bush.
137 posted on 02/27/2009 12:49:05 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: ari-freedom
I think we all would deserve a special month if we were forced to smell that guy’s armpits.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not worth losing your head to smell those armpits, unless you have some kind of death wish, olfactory fixation.

History is not about arm pits, although the Black History Monthers seem to try and make us think so.

138 posted on 02/27/2009 12:50:08 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Myrddin
[Heavy Sarcasm]You Welsh troublemakers are nothing but Commies! Won't you ever stop pushing your national identity on us poor Anglo-Saxons???[/Heavy Sarcasm]
139 posted on 02/27/2009 12:51:09 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
You might point out to her that when freed black slaves returned to Africa and founded their own country there they promptly made other blacks into SLAVES. Or you could just pull her out of public school and start reversing the damage it has caused.
140 posted on 02/27/2009 12:51:59 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: ari-freedom

“Also ask her to name 10 accomplishments of Africans in Africa that changed the world.”

1) They actually appreciated Bush.

_____________________________________________________

Lets not forget...

2) An African born in Africa is actually the President of these United States!


141 posted on 02/27/2009 12:52:16 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Did I understand correctly... did YOUR daughter say there should be no White History Month?

First, there should not be a Black, White, or Purple History Month.

Second, this sophomore needs to be better educated at home. It sounds like the liberal revisionist public school teachers are giving her all her information. She needs stronger education at home, with emphasis on the truth.

(IMO)


142 posted on 02/27/2009 12:54:02 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Freedom" is just another word for "nothing left to lose".)
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To: aliquando
Nobody deserves a special month. Just teach history.

Very well put! (though I know you inferred it, I would have inserted the adv accurately after the word 'history')

143 posted on 02/27/2009 12:54:28 PM PST by jla (Sarah! sarahpac.com)
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To: thefrankbaum
Ask her what “racism” or, even better, “discrimination” means. When she says (I assume) that essentially it is treating someone on the basis of the color of their skin, ask her what is the defining feature of “black history month.” She'll probably protest and say “that's different.” Then ask her about Japanese and Italian internment during WWII, plus the racial laws preventing Asian and Southern European immigration, and ask whether we should have Japanese History Month, or Italian History Month. She'll probably go to slavery

That raises a very interesting issue, fb. If only Blacks deserve their own month because only Blacks suffered slavery, then why is it that affirmative action automatically applies to everyone who isn't a heterosexual white male? Were white women slaves? Were white male homosexuals slaves?

Actually, I wouldn't mind affirmative action if it were still a unique program for the benefit of the one people who had the unique experience of slavery, but it isn't. Right now aliens from Outer Gazebo could land and, so long as they weren't white male heterosexuals, be automatically qualified for affirmative action based on their "otherness."

144 posted on 02/27/2009 12:56:45 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Opinions?

"At the time of her action, Parks was secretary of the Montgomery chapter of the NAACP and had recently attended the Highlander Folk School, a Tennessee center for workers' rights and racial equality."

I was always led to believe Rosa Parks was a courageous women, as it turns out, she was nothing more than a well versed plant intended to produce media coverage....

145 posted on 02/27/2009 12:57:26 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Unassuaged
Is that why they fought the Civil War? I thought it was a federal power grab confirming the absolute power of Washington and the lack of any real soverenty of the states.

No, that was the Washington and Adams administrations!

146 posted on 02/27/2009 12:59:44 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: Eternal_Bear

I am now going to be referred to as a Scando-American and I will call all other non hyphenated person in this country a racist, so if you don’t want to be racist any more just hyphenate your ethnicity and we are all good.


147 posted on 02/27/2009 12:59:44 PM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I would have told her that we should not judge based on skin color and that Obama’s election proved that racism is all but dead in this country. I would have also warned her against siding with those who practice reverse racism, they are even worse than racists in the past. They aren’t ignorant just hateful.


148 posted on 02/27/2009 1:00:39 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: ScreamingFist

True, true.

And while the schools are neglecting to teach that during Black History Month, they are also forgetting the tale of Rosa Parks being robbed and assaulted by thugs later on her life.

By Amish thugs.

(is a sarc tag really necessary?)


149 posted on 02/27/2009 1:00:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

There really is no need for a white history “month”.

Since there are 12 months in a year, having one in which blacks celebrate all of their achievements and contributions to mankind is appropriate.

The other 11 months are a quiet testament to the multitude of advances and progress mankind has made thanks to the influence of whites and others.


150 posted on 02/27/2009 1:01:37 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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