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Whites - Don't Deserve a White History Month
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Posted on 02/27/2009 11:43:46 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

So here I was - taking my daughter to school this morning (She is a high school sophomore) and she was telling me of a discussion she and the other kids were having about Black History Month.

One kid suggested that - to be fair - there should be a White History Month. He was quickly chastised; "Whites don't deserve a special history month due to the racial prejudices they've committed over the years". My daughter related some of the "Rosa Parks" types of incidents as evidence of why there should be no White History Month.

It was early. I was driving and had not yet had my first cup of coffee. And so I was speechless.

Freepers… What would YOU have said?


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KEYWORDS: blackhistorymonth; politicalcorrectness; prejudice; racialbias; racism; reverseracism; whitehistorymonth
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To: Responsibility2nd
is this your own kid saying that? dang, i'd be embarrassed to admit it if my kid said something so outrageous, as i think it reflects on her parenting!

my son attends Gonzaga College HS, a Catholic all boys HS in DC. he told me a few weeks ago that the black student association brought a black minister in as an assembly for black history month. everyone was required to attend. he said the guy basically had some blame whitey rhetoric and that he draped an obama tshirt over the podium at the beginning of his talk. my son was OUTRAGED by the entire thing. i asked him if anyone else thought it was inappropriate. he said no, they don't know any better. sounds like your daughter woudl have been ok with it also.

151 posted on 02/27/2009 1:02:47 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: FearlessFreep
Reminds me of a job interview I was giving. The prospective employee was sitting there and stated. “May I axe you a question?” I said. “You use an axe to chop wood.” The interview was over.

Actually "ax" is Chaucerian Middle English (Black English comes from the British Isles, not Africa). We po' buckruhs say "ast."

152 posted on 02/27/2009 1:02:49 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: TheKidster
Kidster!

Are you stalking me? Following me from thread to thread?

lolol - Kidding.

But my friend... You are wrong, wrong wrong.

Obama’s election proved that racism is all but dead in this country

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!

You so funnee!!!

153 posted on 02/27/2009 1:04:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

My first issue would have been with the school board and the teachers union for promoting hate comments in the class room that my tax dollars were paying for. Then my lawyer would have been called to sue the school system for teaching hate based indoctrination and would request the immediate removal of and barring from ever teaching again the principal, teacher, superintendent of the school district and any other person involved in this type of cult programming. Until they are forced to defend their actions and ideals with facts they will continue to wreck this country one mind at a time.


154 posted on 02/27/2009 1:04:33 PM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"Whites don't deserve a special history month due to the racial prejudices they've committed over the years".

I would've responded with a question:

Name one living "white" person who committed those prejudices or injustices or atrocities of the past? (I'm not talking about someone born since FDR.)

And...

Isn't having a "black history month" reverse discrimination? If discrimination is wrong against noe race or religion, it's wrong against any other race or religion.

My biggest question would've been:

Isn't voting as one huge block for one party the worst kind of discrimination? Aren't the larger ethnic groups being disenfranchised by one group of people, namely blacks?

When one group votes 90-95% for one party, they are using the worst kind of discrimination available, though legal.

Somebody ought to explain to that one student the following:

If whites vote in approximate equal numbers for democrats and republicans, and then blacks vote 90-95% for democrats, then it is the black vote which is essentially deciding the vote, and if they continue voting in that range for many election cycles, then it is the blacks who are wielding disproportionate power in relation to their numbers in the general population.

Essentially, what we have had in the last few election cycles is the disenfranchisement of the majority by a minority. Some might call it a dictatorship by a minority.
155 posted on 02/27/2009 1:04:41 PM PST by adorno
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To: txnativegop
I am curious, A white South African, whose family lived in South Africa for 3 centuries, is an African-American by definition, yet they are denied that description by the schools, and government agencies.

By the conventional definition Barack Obama barely qualifies. But he subscribes to the "right" positions.

Apparently "African American" refers not to birth, descent, or skin color but to support of atheism, abortion, and buggery.

156 posted on 02/27/2009 1:05:07 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: sniper63

does Murkan-American count? Best I can do.


157 posted on 02/27/2009 1:05:59 PM PST by Eternal_Bear (`)
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To: xsmommy
i'd be embarrassed to admit it if my kid said something so outrageous, as i think it reflects on her parenting!

Strange you would say that after the admission you just made.

Oh well.

158 posted on 02/27/2009 1:09:16 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
Don't allow yourself to be pulled into a battle on terrain of their choosing. Always battle on terrain that is advantageous to you.

Tell your daughter that what is happening is cultural and not racial.

People make an individual choice of how they want to interact with the world, and this is completely independent of race. You can choose to be a positive person. A person who is cheerful, helpful, respectful, and has manners.

You can also be a negative person. A person who is surly, indifferent, disrespectful, and vulgar.

You will find that people that fit into the first category tend to have more friends and do better in life. The people in the latter category do not.

So who's fault is it if a noticeable subset of any specific group chooses, of their own free will, to behave in a way that is detrimental to their own best interests?

It's not about race people, it's about behavior. I know many people who are a PITA. I avoid them whenever possible, and they come in all colors.

159 posted on 02/27/2009 1:09:39 PM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

what admission did i just make?


160 posted on 02/27/2009 1:09:48 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: Sergio

Excellent comments. Thanks!


161 posted on 02/27/2009 1:14:42 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Horse shit. To celebrate any one group on America is to divide America. No black, white, green or yellow history month, ever. And f*** anyone who thinks we should have one. I am tired of socialist, tired of dejure communism, tired of a**hats like Bozo and the dem and Rino congress trying to tell us how to live. F*** ‘em all and down with communism in all its forms.


162 posted on 02/27/2009 1:17:12 PM PST by calex59
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You’ve hit on one of the logical inconsistences with the justification for affirmative action.


163 posted on 02/27/2009 1:19:02 PM PST by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Like affirmative action???


164 posted on 02/27/2009 1:20:13 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Responsibility2nd

Let me correct that Obama’s election proved that racism against blacks is all but dead in this country. Unfortunately reverse racism is alive and well.


165 posted on 02/27/2009 1:28:04 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Red Boots; pappyone; Responsibility2nd

it doesn’t matter where your kid goes to school, teaching them yourself is of paramount importance. my kids have always gone to private schools, but there is liberal bias everywhere. you are your child’s primary educator, as far as worldview and ideology, and if you leave it to someone else, you are most definitely taking your chances. i do not mean to insult you responsibility2d, but i am pretty astounded that your daughter, as a sophomore in HS, could ever buy into the liberal claptrap of black history month. don’t you talk about things at home? my kids are quite often the ONLY conservatives in their classrooms, but they have always been able to argue their position and prove themselves better informed and better able to back up their position with facts.


166 posted on 02/27/2009 1:28:06 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: Eternal_Bear

As long as it’s hyphenated we’re good.


167 posted on 02/27/2009 1:28:09 PM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Responsibility2nd

When Americans STOP responding to the Race Pimps, Sharpton, Jacskon, Michelle Obama, etc. then we can carry on the American dream for us and our children. This barrage of hate and guilt can only work as long as whitey keeps responding to the nonsense. Laughter and correction with the truth is a good start. I am tired of the finger pointing by blacks and leftists, it is all divide and conquer and I’m saddened that any parent would allow that kind of tripe to go unchallenged. I’d go to the teacher and the School Board and raise hell, just for starters!


168 posted on 02/27/2009 1:29:18 PM PST by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I understand. But if you can’t speak proper English, i don’t want you dealing face to face with customers.


169 posted on 02/27/2009 1:29:38 PM PST by FearlessFreep (Never bring a fart to a sh#t fight.)
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To: txnativegop
Good definition. After months of patronizing the La Salsa taco shop in Mira Mesa, the gals behind the counter decided it would be cute to conduct business with me in Spanish. I played the game. I placed my order in Welsh. The gal looked puzzled. I suggested we stick with English as we both understand it.
170 posted on 02/27/2009 1:30:45 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Responsibility2nd
Strange you would say that after the admission you just made.

What "admission" could you possibly be talking about?

171 posted on 02/27/2009 1:33:17 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy. FUBO!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Freepers… What would YOU have said?

I wouldn't have had to say anything, because I haven't failed as a parent - my kids arean't liberals, and they aren't racists.

172 posted on 02/27/2009 1:35:36 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy. FUBO!)
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To: Myrddin

I have done that too, with people who tried to speak spanish to me. I always respond in German. They find it irritating, which is the desired effect.


173 posted on 02/27/2009 1:36:06 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Travis T. OJustice; Responsibility2nd

Uncool


174 posted on 02/27/2009 1:41:52 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: TheKidster

Yeah, i agree, it’s totally uncool to be so out of touch, and have done so little imparting of your values, that your kid could turn out to be a racist liberal, and not even know it.

I know my kids much better than the OP, obviously.

Judging by the original post, i would surmise his screenname describes his parenting style.


175 posted on 02/27/2009 1:44:46 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy. FUBO!)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

No, you’re uncool for slamming the OP instead of helping the OP. Some kids think for themselves regardless of thier parents’ instruction. I wouldn’t call this person a failed parent because I don’t even know them or thier kids.


176 posted on 02/27/2009 1:51:48 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice; Admin Moderator

Friend. You can call me names all you want. You have my permission.

But I’m calling you out on your veiled attack on my kid. You wanna clarify your remarks? You want to add to it?

Or will you apologize?


177 posted on 02/27/2009 1:52:50 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Your kid made racist comments. YOU admitted it.

Why do you have to ping the mods on my comment, maybe you need a mod for your kids racism. If you had been a bit more proactive over the years, you wouldn’t have a kid who makes racist comments.

Clear enough?


178 posted on 02/27/2009 1:56:13 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy. FUBO!)
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To: TheKidster
OK, maybe the failed parent part wasn't the best wording, i'll give you that much. Partially failed would be muchmore appropriate. However, if my kid wre to grow up racist like his, I would feel like a failed parent.
179 posted on 02/27/2009 1:57:44 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy. FUBO!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Blacks will never ever acheive what they seek if they cling to victimhood.

If you think about it, there’s no yellow history month.

Or red, or even native American.

Yet Asians were enslaved and abused and rounded up after Pearl Harbor.

There should be no history month, for any race, creed, region or country. Period.

What happened to many blacks was awful but it was a very long time ago and I’d say when the most powerful single individual in the free world, “the man” as it were, is black, the goal, MLK’s vision has been forever and permanently set in stone realized.

Oprah, Tiger Woods, astronauts, politicians, generals, now president...there’s just no where else to go in society to gain this...equality!

It’s time to disband black history month, declare victory and move on.

Otherwise there’ll eventually be a back-lash of sorts, a self-fulfilling prophecy and the irony is it’ll be Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, Jews or all of the above and so on telling blacks to shut up, move on and quit whining already!


180 posted on 02/27/2009 1:59:01 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Booker T Washington said it best, about 100 years ago:

“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”


181 posted on 02/27/2009 2:02:21 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: txnativegop
I have done that too, with people who tried to speak spanish to me. I always respond in German. They find it irritating, which is the desired effect.

My dad sent me to the store for lettuce a few days before Christmas. As I approached the produce area, a couple women switched from speaking in English to speaking in German. I selected my lettuce, then moved along after saying, "Fröhliche Weinachten". Switching languages as an exclusionary tactic doesn't work well in this country. I passed my German proficiency at UCSD by taking the SAT II test in German, then successfully completing the oral proficiency with a 30 minute discussion of an article from Der Stern with a native speaker. I don't use it much anymore, but I found it very handy while attending school. A couple of the technical books I needed were offered in English, French, German and Russian. English copies were available for a week and all checked out. German copies were available for the whole quarter. I took the German copies.

182 posted on 02/27/2009 2:04:51 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: dfwgator

Excellent quote!


183 posted on 02/27/2009 2:06:26 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy. FUBO!)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Your kid raped a llama in the boys room at school. YOU admitted it.

Since you have no proof I ever stated or even inferred my kids made racist remarks, and since this is open season day on FReeper’s children, I feel the truth can come out.

Little OJustice kids rape llamas.

Clear enough?


184 posted on 02/27/2009 2:15:40 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Travis T. OJustice
That's what I was thinking. If my kid is in high school and doesn't know the PC world in which we live in and why things are the way they are then I have failed in my job as a parent.

Teaching the truth to our children is sometimes hard and painful but it has to be a priority. Race relations, globull warming, ... are all topics that my family has discussed since they were little ones. Raising 2 knuckle dragging redneck conservatives is my goal.

185 posted on 02/27/2009 2:20:17 PM PST by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is to lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Please clear something up for me - is this your daughter being written about or did you post someone else’s story?


186 posted on 02/27/2009 2:22:20 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Computer says No..... Carole Beer)
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To: Myrddin

Yes, I know it doesn’t, but since I pick and choose when I do so, I can avoid that. I love the irritated looks I get when I do it.


187 posted on 02/27/2009 2:22:39 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Responsibility2nd

There is a book called the “Color of Crime” that illustrates that it is people of color who are more likely to commit crime and even hate crimes.


188 posted on 02/27/2009 2:24:41 PM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: Free_in_Alabama

i totally agree. if you aren’t talking about it at home, where are they going to get their ideology? the popular culture, including liberal claptrap about black history month, will fill in whatever we don’t tell them. if we don’t insure our kids heads are screwed on straight, we can’t blame anyone else for how they turn out. i am always amazed at conservatives who talk about their kids TURNING UP liberal [kind of like turning up PREGNANT! LOL] And i also disagree with whoever said that sometimes kids THINK FOR THEMSELVES despite the parental instruction. um, my kids think for themselves quite well, and think CONSERVATIVELY, because they understand the issues and why we believe what we believe. they aren’t just parroting back what they hear us say, we discuss things in depth.


189 posted on 02/27/2009 2:25:52 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: TheThinker; wac3rd

True.

See post # 110.

Thanks both for the link. I’ve saved it for further reading.


190 posted on 02/27/2009 2:26:42 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Niuhuru

Screw that, let them go back to Africa.


191 posted on 02/27/2009 2:32:23 PM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: dfwgator

Al Sharpton, Jesse Jacks-nnnn, John Conyers, John Lewis, just a few of the people holding down the black race more than most.


192 posted on 02/27/2009 2:40:28 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Responsibility2nd

193 posted on 02/27/2009 2:41:59 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Responsibility2nd

Black history month only exists in the US because for much of recorded history Black history meant Zimbwabe, South Africa, Uganda. etc


194 posted on 02/27/2009 2:54:17 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: dfwgator

That sounds about right so I bet he’s on the “Uncle Tom” list.


195 posted on 02/27/2009 3:20:25 PM PST by Califreak (1/20/13-Sunrise in America)
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To: FearlessFreep
I will admit....I am prejudice. But that does not make me racist. I can’t help how I have come to view certain peoples. It is only through experience with them, that I have come to feel this way. Nothing I was taught. Just real life, day to day experiences. And by God, it sickens me more every day.

A reaction based on past experince cannot be racist, nor can it be called prejudice.

Prejudice means an opinion based without the benefit of experience (or, pre-judging). Since yours is based upon experience, it cannot be prejudice.

And you are not a racist either.

You've had negative experiences that have left lasting impressions. To have such a cause and effect relationship in one's brain is simply human nature. We avoid that which has caused us pain in the past.I don't think it can be called racism, nor prejudice. Just my 2 cents.

196 posted on 02/27/2009 3:23:13 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: calex59

That was a joke calex.

I thought it was obvious, sorry that it wasn’t.


197 posted on 02/27/2009 4:50:37 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If whites don't deserve a White History Month, then blacks don't deserve a Black History Month.

After all, who was it that sold blacks into slavery? Their fellow blacks.

And who was it that fought and died to give blacks their liberty in America? It was white Americans.

In any event, your daughter deserves a firm, fair and knowledgable response. She needs to be able to defend herself from public school bullshit like this.

198 posted on 02/27/2009 5:09:30 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Responsibility2nd
One thing, though. To young ears even the facts can sound harsh or racist. The title just made me want to vent against black privilege.

You can always point to things whites have done for blacks of which are numerous. Affirmative action, federal grants, loans, etc. are available for blacks as opposed to whites. You can point to Obama as an example of whites trying to do the right thing racially even if it was really dumb. What have blacks done lately that gives them extra consideration and rights?

And what is the ideal? Either everyone should enjoy celebrating the positive aspects of their racial identity, which whites also have in abundance, or we should all forget our racial identities, including blacks begin a new era without racial jealousies and resentments. You can tell her that instead or at least first.

199 posted on 02/27/2009 10:26:23 PM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Best that there be no history month save maybe for American History Month.

Second, home school and if not that cut her off and let her see how she likes equality.


200 posted on 02/28/2009 11:19:06 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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