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Good-bye [if I can't post my 9/11 troofer garbage to FR, I'm leaving]
self ^ | June 25, 2009 | ThePythonicCow

Posted on 06/25/2009 12:41:23 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow

Good-bye.

A few months ago, I posted some information on bank financial strength. The post was a complex table and it took me sometime to make the post. Not long after, I forget but perhaps 10 or 20 minutes, the post disappeared. Figuring I made a mistake, I posted it again. This time I was pretty sure I posted it correctly. It disappeared within a few minutes. To verify that this was what was happening, I posted a third time. It again disappeared immediately.

I never received any feedback from FreeRepublic on this matter.

It annoyed me, but since I have always trusted FR, and since I have so far as I know maintained a sterling reputation here as a well behaved citizen for the eight or ten years I've been here, I shook my head in confusion and forgot that incident.

Just tonight I posted a more controversial post involving 9/11. It disappeared within minutes (after I had verified that the post succeeded).

Again, no notice public or private, before or after the fact. Just poof.

Good-bye.

I will cancel future monthly FR donations and leave. I cannot support a political discussion and news site which makes seriously intended posts by long standing contributors of good standing just disappear without notice, public or private, before or after.

The SanityIsland.us site, with some Daily Dose images, will remain around likely for one year, then go away without further notice. I may be reached via email at pj@usa.net (yes, I have excellent spam filters.)

Sites have a right to do as they please, but also a responsibility to stand up for the actions they take, at least involving participants acting in good faith. FR apparently is failing to honor this responsibility.

I would ask that in the future removals of posts made in good faith by members in good standing at least be recognized in private messages to the poster after the fact, stating the approximate cause for removal. Even a 'boilerplate' explanation would be better than nothing.

I wish this fine community and the good people here well. This nation is in dire need of honest reporting and discussion.



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Skip to comments.9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public
Silvia Cattori ^ | 22 June 2009 | The Voltaire Network

Posted on 06/24/2009 10:52:26 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow

Kurt Sonnenfeld : Exclusive interview

9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public

As official videographer for the U.S. government, Kurt Sonnenfeld was detailed to Ground Zero on September 11, 2001, where he spent one month filming 29 tapes: "What I saw at certain moments and in certain places ... is very disturbing!" He never handed them over to the authorities and has been persecuted ever since. Kurt Sonnenfeld lives in exile in Argentina, where he wrote « El Perseguido » (the persecuted). His recently-published book tells the story of his unending nightmare and drives another nail into the coffin of the government’s account of the 9/11 events. Below is an exclusive interview by Voltairenet.

(Excerpt) Read more at silviacattori.net ...


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The original link for this is href=http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html, however the voltairenet.org site seems to be down. I have found several sites offering snippets of the article. The one linked here seems to have a complete copy.

Be careful who you trust here. Someone is not telling the truth, big time, but I can make no claim to know who.

Some of the interesting claims by Kurt in this interview are that he has evidence that a large room sized vault of the CIA's most valued documents was found emptied under the rubble, presumably before the attack. Large chunks of the planes survived, such as landing tires, despite the claimed heat that took down the buildings. Other structural steel and concrete parts of the building were pulverized to a fine dust. And of course Building 7's sudden collapse is unaccounted for in the official version.

1 posted on 06/24/2009 10:52:27 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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161 posted on 06/25/2009 7:36:00 AM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: bethybabes69
We will bury barry you.
162 posted on 06/25/2009 7:38:44 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: newfreep

Damn..... and sell us the capitalist rope we hang ourselves with.

What are we going to do?

I cannot believe these last six months.


163 posted on 06/25/2009 7:49:24 AM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: bethybabes69

It’s like putting frogs in cool water. Then heat it up.
They don’t realize it’s boiling until too late.

That’s how I think about this same situation.
We have a nation of liberals who are willing to “turn” on a paycheck.
They have the media, hollywood and a host of political promises to blame.

Social engineering to the MAX!


164 posted on 06/25/2009 7:50:45 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: djf; ThePythonicCow; Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
I know for a fact that not all FReepers agree with the official conclusions about 9/11. There are some questions that need asking.

There are questions that need asking. That's why the type of stuff that Cow was posting is so corrosive. It distracts from real issues and soaks itself in fantasyland.

9/11 Trutherism is a mental disorder. I've had friends who've succumbed to it, and its a sad thing to watch. If you believe that bombs blew up WTC 1, 2, or 7, or that a plane did not hit the Pentagon, you're either willfully ignorant, or something is wrong with you. These are the simplest assertions in the world to refute, with just 5 minutes of research.

From conversing with the Truthers I know, I have come to the conclusion that it is a quasi-religion for them. No matter how much evidence I show them, it makes not a whit of a difference.

I've shown them a video of a firefighter looking up at a still-standing WTC 7, saying "This building is coming down. You can see it leaning", and they still stand by their theory that the thing was blown up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HLDgjYuRHk

I've shown multiple reports of eyewitness testimony who saw a jet hit the Pentagon, but my Truther acquiantences still stand by their theory that a "missile" hit the Pentagon.

http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Pentagon_witnesses

This stuff is loony bin tripe. It's idiotic, but unfortunately has a hold on a good portion of the country.

Rational, intelligent people who do not let themselves be deluded by crazy conspiracy garbage needs to team up and stop this stuff now. A good start is to not let FreeRepublic become a channel to spread this nonsense.

I'm going to report abuse on any 9/11 Truther thread I see, and I would expect that the mods will continue to "pull it".

165 posted on 06/25/2009 8:17:02 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: ThePythonicCow
"And my views on 9/11 have diverged from FR."

Bye.

166 posted on 06/25/2009 10:06:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: ThePythonicCow

I am some species of 9/11 truther. Up until the last two or three years, I was well aligned with the FR position on this matter.

_________________

You won’t be missed. All of you other genius truthers can take a hike as well, you don’t even need an opus, just leave.


167 posted on 06/25/2009 10:14:32 AM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: word_warrior_bob
...genius truthers...

Every one of them thinks they're an armchair architechial engineer and demolations expert.

168 posted on 06/25/2009 10:27:28 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: ThePythonicCow; Admin Moderator

Same thing happened to me two days ago: thread pulled no explanation. Had three comments and then it was gone, quite annoying.

There was one reply from some fool who made a negative comment about the article while writing that he hadn’t read it and may have made a complaint to the mod.

An explanation of some sort from the mods would be helpful.


169 posted on 06/25/2009 10:39:31 AM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Up until the last two or three years, I was well aligned with the FR position on this matter.

Like hell. Truthers have been persona non grata on FR for some time.

170 posted on 06/25/2009 10:58:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
I wrote: dirtboy replied: Yes - FR has been consistent. Until recently, I agreed with FR and had no patience for truthers. I changed, not FR. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
171 posted on 06/25/2009 11:03:12 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
And my views on 9/11 have diverged from FR.

No, your view on 9/11 have diverged from reality.

172 posted on 06/25/2009 11:06:42 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim wrote: Take care. I wish FR well.
173 posted on 06/25/2009 11:12:10 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Well, you're a damned fool, then. Any truther 'explanation' of 9-11 defies all logic and reason. Do you think it possible for demolition charges to be placed throughout the twin towers without anyone noticing? Does it seem instead logical to you that, since the collapse in both towers began at the impact points, that the impacts are themselves responsible? Please explain to me how a demolition setup crew would know exactly where in each tower the planes were going to hit - and then place the precision charges to initiate the collapse at those points (in defiance of normal demolition procedures, which start the collapse at the BOTTOM of a structure) - and then those precision charges somehow survived the impact and fire to still function - no wires broken, no explosives scraped away or cooked off prematurely.

You need to step away from the keyboard and take a month off from the internet. Seriously. Get your head away from whatever truther sewer you've been visiting and get out in the real world and get your logical filters engaged again.

174 posted on 06/25/2009 11:13:35 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: ThePythonicCow

Forget all this! Cheer yourself up by visiting www.sarahpac.com today!


175 posted on 06/25/2009 11:15:10 AM PDT by jla
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To: dirtboy
It's best if I don't participate in that discussion here.
176 posted on 06/25/2009 11:15:11 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
It's best if I don't participate in that discussion here.

It's best if you pull your head out of your arse, quite frankly. Conspiracy theories are rot in this day and age and you need to pull yourself out of this idiocy.

177 posted on 06/25/2009 11:17:35 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Admin Moderator

When we hit abuse, do you know the poster who is making the complaint? Or is it semi-anonymous (like you get see IP or something) or completely anonymous?

Just asking out of curiosity, no specific incident.


178 posted on 06/25/2009 11:24:39 AM PDT by retrokitten
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To: retrokitten
When we hit abuse, do you know the poster who is making the complaint?

Yes. Just the handle, no IP address.

179 posted on 06/25/2009 11:36:35 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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Thanks!


180 posted on 06/25/2009 11:37:16 AM PDT by retrokitten
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