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Good-bye [if I can't post my 9/11 troofer garbage to FR, I'm leaving]
self ^ | June 25, 2009 | ThePythonicCow

Posted on 06/25/2009 12:41:23 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow

Good-bye.

A few months ago, I posted some information on bank financial strength. The post was a complex table and it took me sometime to make the post. Not long after, I forget but perhaps 10 or 20 minutes, the post disappeared. Figuring I made a mistake, I posted it again. This time I was pretty sure I posted it correctly. It disappeared within a few minutes. To verify that this was what was happening, I posted a third time. It again disappeared immediately.

I never received any feedback from FreeRepublic on this matter.

It annoyed me, but since I have always trusted FR, and since I have so far as I know maintained a sterling reputation here as a well behaved citizen for the eight or ten years I've been here, I shook my head in confusion and forgot that incident.

Just tonight I posted a more controversial post involving 9/11. It disappeared within minutes (after I had verified that the post succeeded).

Again, no notice public or private, before or after the fact. Just poof.

Good-bye.

I will cancel future monthly FR donations and leave. I cannot support a political discussion and news site which makes seriously intended posts by long standing contributors of good standing just disappear without notice, public or private, before or after.

The SanityIsland.us site, with some Daily Dose images, will remain around likely for one year, then go away without further notice. I may be reached via email at pj@usa.net (yes, I have excellent spam filters.)

Sites have a right to do as they please, but also a responsibility to stand up for the actions they take, at least involving participants acting in good faith. FR apparently is failing to honor this responsibility.

I would ask that in the future removals of posts made in good faith by members in good standing at least be recognized in private messages to the poster after the fact, stating the approximate cause for removal. Even a 'boilerplate' explanation would be better than nothing.

I wish this fine community and the good people here well. This nation is in dire need of honest reporting and discussion.



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Mooo !!!
1 posted on 06/25/2009 12:41:23 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: ThePythonicCow

Where was the article from? Maybe it was from a URL that was not allowed.


2 posted on 06/25/2009 12:43:38 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (I am not surprised by what Obama is and to more than a little extent we do have Bush to blame.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

2:41AM

Not exactly a high traffic time for FR.

I, for one, am not happy to see you go. There seem to be fewer and fewer readily-recognized handles left these days.


3 posted on 06/25/2009 12:44:45 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: ThePythonicCow

This is all news to me. Anyone know anything?


4 posted on 06/25/2009 12:45:34 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
From silviacattori.net.

If that is a URL that is not allowed, that is understandable. It is not a conservative web site by any stretch. Indeed, my post itself was one I realized might not be acceptable at FR, and I warned in the body of my post that readers should be skeptical.

I do not have any particular beef with the removal itself.

The complete lack of feedback as to the removal of the post, after it had been successfully posted is not something I condone. I believe my post was actually replied to once, as I saw my New posts to you indicator light up a few minutes after posting, but then that new post, and my post, were gone.

If it was a "bad" URL, FR should say so.

5 posted on 06/25/2009 12:52:37 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
I saw it. The reason given for it being pulled was (IIRC), "pure garbage". And it was. It was 9/11 troofer crap in the extreme.

If you want to see for yourself google: 9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public

6 posted on 06/25/2009 12:53:00 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: ThePythonicCow

poof might be the problem...


7 posted on 06/25/2009 12:53:24 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: GeronL
Thanks. I'll miss FreeRepublic as well.

Hmmm ... guess I'd better remove my FreeRepublic.com bumper sticker as well. Yes, I have one.

8 posted on 06/25/2009 12:54:13 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: GeronL
I, for one, am not happy to see you go. There seem to be fewer and fewer readily-recognized handles left these days.

Agreed.

9 posted on 06/25/2009 12:54:56 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: ThePythonicCow
Before saying "Good-bye", I'd sleep on it.

Your posting problems are probably just a bug.


10 posted on 06/25/2009 12:57:23 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: MARTIAL MONK
I will not dispute the reason. I disagree, but it is ok by me that FR has different views on this matter.

But you shoulda told me. You can be blunt, you can do so after the fact, without further discussion or recourse. Just a private message saying "pulled - garbage" would have been sufficient.

11 posted on 06/25/2009 12:58:49 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: ThePythonicCow

I am not a mod. I happened to click on it and it was already pulled with the reason stated. I was curious so I googled the title. You have been here long enough that you should know that that kind of crap is not allowed.


12 posted on 06/25/2009 1:02:37 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
"Where was the article from? Maybe it was from a URL that was not allowed."

If that were the case, a message would have appeared just after he hit the "post" button, saying that this website does not permit it's contents to be disseminated on FR or any place without previous permission from them. At other times, FR will refuse to post articles from certain websites they deem unreliable.

13 posted on 06/25/2009 1:06:05 AM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (Because they didn't want to receive the truth,.God gave them over to a depraved mind.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Hello—I must be going....


14 posted on 06/25/2009 1:06:08 AM PDT by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

You’ve not had any threads pulled this eve that I can find.

Please advise as to what the thread title was, then I will find any record of it being pulled, who pulled it and why.


15 posted on 06/25/2009 1:07:58 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: MARTIAL MONK
Ah - ok - that makes sense.

I got crosswise with FR for two reasons on this matter. I was already annoyed at the triple silent removal of that earlier bank rating post a few months ago.

And my views on 9/11 have diverged from FR. Which may be another good reason why it is time the FR and I went our separate ways. That I no longer instinctively found the article to be garbage is a good clue that I have diverged from the direction of this forum.

16 posted on 06/25/2009 1:08:20 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Can you give the URL to the article that was not permitted to be posted on FR?


17 posted on 06/25/2009 1:08:29 AM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (Because they didn't want to receive the truth,.God gave them over to a depraved mind.)
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To: ThePythonicCow
But [the mods] shoulda told me.

Did you FReeper-mail the mods to ask why?

18 posted on 06/25/2009 1:08:42 AM PDT by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Sleep on it. Come back fighting liberals after you’ve gotten some rest.


19 posted on 06/25/2009 1:09:21 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: Admin Moderator

And so it begins.


20 posted on 06/25/2009 1:09:29 AM PDT by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Thank-you for inquiring.

The title (thanks MARTIAL MONK for capturing it) was "9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public". The site was silviacattori.net.

21 posted on 06/25/2009 1:11:16 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: Redcloak
I have a vague recollection that I did so the first time this happened, with the other bank rating post.

But my request stands. The mods should at a minimum send out a canned private message when a member in good standing has a thread pulled, so that the user knows it was a deliberate pull, not a computer glitch or even a failure to even complete the post correctly.

22 posted on 06/25/2009 1:14:13 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!)
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To: Admin Moderator
9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public

It would have been right around midnight (mountain) because it was first in my IE history for today.

23 posted on 06/25/2009 1:14:22 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: ThePythonicCow

It does seem like an odd circumstance. Perhaps the Mod was being cranky?

One of the best things about FR is the willingness to allow discussion of various viewpoints. Those who want to enforce orthodoxy beyond the unalterable conservative values are actually the problem with conservatism, not the solution.

As John Locke - one of the core conservative philosophers - was clear to point out, ideas both good and bad should be debated. If an idea is truly bad, the debate will expose it. If it is surpressed it will be impossible to rebut in a manner that will be convincing. It is a basic first amendmant tenant.

Those who wish to stifle debate are America’s Taliban on the left and right with the same tactics and same goals.


24 posted on 06/25/2009 1:16:14 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (I am not surprised by what Obama is and to more than a little extent we do have Bush to blame.)
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To: ThePythonicCow

I really wish you would stay.


25 posted on 06/25/2009 1:16:45 AM PDT by Allegra ( Iran Azadi!)
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