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What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
End The War on Freedom ^ | June 18, 2003 | Bill St. Clair

Posted on 08/10/2009 3:48:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: allmendream
Have you noticed the politicians (especially the Democratic Leaders and Chairmen) acting like they could care less what their constituents (or the “Blue Dogs”) want? Could it be that they know that something between now and November 2010 will keep elections from happening? There's not another explanation that I can think of, can you? What would've sounded extremely paranoid a year ago is fast approaching a reasonable theory, IMO.
161 posted on 09/24/2009 9:24:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $1 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well talk to me in 2010 when the elections don't happen. As soon as I see an iron clad action towards despotism like that I start my “Red Dawn” act.

Until then....

Re-read what I posted to you from the Declaration. Oh-Zero has been President for, what, ten months now? Patiently suffered a long string of abuses and usurpations with the goal being our reduction to total despotism we have not yet experienced.

Another year and he will be a lame duck, he is getting lamer by the second as the Blue Dogs turn up their noses at the steaming pile of health care “reform” that they know will be their electoral death knell.

162 posted on 09/24/2009 9:30:05 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
now we go about figuring what we want to do with our permanent freedoms...

Freedom ain't permanent. Never has been, never will be. Anyone who says such a thing is a dangerously deluded fool.

163 posted on 09/24/2009 9:32:00 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
Our freedoms are granted to us by God, and are eternal.

It is their recognition by governments that is temporary and conditional.

164 posted on 09/24/2009 9:33:21 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
It is their recognition by governments that is temporary and conditional.

No sh**, Sherlock.

165 posted on 09/24/2009 9:34:13 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
And you cut that part out of my sentence.

Do you think it is government that makes you free? That under one government you would be free but in another you would be enslaved?

Man exists with the PERMANENT natural right to be free, a government that recognizes those rights is just, one that does not is a tyranny.

Freedom is eternal. Governments come and go.

166 posted on 09/24/2009 9:35:46 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: Lurker
So you take me out of context, and when I repeat the context to you it is a “NSS”?

Tell it to yourself.

167 posted on 09/24/2009 9:36:47 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
Do you think it is government that makes you free?

Nope.

a government that recognizes those rights is just,

Let me know when you run across one of those will you?

Thanks in advance.

168 posted on 09/24/2009 9:40:13 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The American government (or some insane pseudo faction of it) would never try to take America by force. They’d have their azzes handed to them in just a few days.

For every armed American, there’s another unarmed one who’s gonna still ask “Hey, what the H you guys doin here”.
The logistics of how do you handle that population are complicated by those other guys out there who happen to be shootin at ya!


169 posted on 09/24/2009 9:41:23 PM PDT by djf (I ain't got time to read all the whines!!!)
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To: Lurker
Anarchist?

Sorry if you take offense that I am an American patriot who believes in and supports and has taken an oath to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution.

170 posted on 09/24/2009 9:44:09 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I wouldn’t put it past this administration to hire foreign mercinaries to help him round up dissidents. Like maybe African and Muslim mercinaries. It would be easier to keep their dirty deeds quiet that way. And all tax-payer funded, of course. Wouldn’t that just be the ultimate insult to injury.


171 posted on 09/24/2009 9:48:58 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee

Sorry.

I just don’t see it happening.

It’s not like you’re talkin a couple guys in camo will be driving around in a beat up Volvo pretending their going to play paint ball somewhere.

We’re talking troop carriers. Lots of them. Maybe more than has been in any single place at one time since WWII.

And what’s Katie Couric gonna say about it at 6PM?

Nothin. Cause it won’t even be on the air anymore. Government would have to, out of total necessity, shut down all major forms of communication. People might notice that. Even those who don’t watch CBS.

And where are all the buses used for transport? You start pickin folks up, and we’re not talking kindergarten buses. We’re talking buses with chains attached to the seats...

Even IF they were smart enough to get all these things planned out, it would take like what, about 15 minutes before anybody with half a brain in this country would realize things were way, way wrong and they were rounding folks up.

Then, it’s party time!


172 posted on 09/24/2009 10:12:57 PM PDT by djf (I ain't got time to read all the whines!!!)
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To: PowderMonkey

I’ll up the ante with this little discussed history lesson that includes some of our most “honored” leaders on the wrong side.

“WITH THE Great Depression causing mass unemployment and bread lines across the U.S., some 40,000 veterans of the First World War made their way to Washington, D.C., in the summer of 1932 to demand immediate payment of a bonus under a law passed several years earlier.

The law granted compensation of a $1 a day for stateside service and $1.25 a day for overseas service to each veteran, but payment was delayed until 1945–leading veterans to derisively refer to the money as the “Tombstone Bonus,” because you would die before you collected it.

Facing the dire circumstances of the depression, veterans wanted Congress–which had already paid off debts and bonuses owed to corporations and war profiteers–to take care of veterans, too.

As the number of veterans who pledged to camp in the nation’s capital until they received their bonuses grew, alarm swept through the political establishment.

“If the farmers of this nation who are suffering united, as these men have united, and with the same abandon, started a march upon the Capitol, and joined ranks with those of the city whose souls have been seared with misery during the past few years, it would not be difficult for a real revolution to start in this country,” wrote California’s Republican Sen. Hiram Johnson in a letter to his son.

On July 28, Gen. Douglas MacArthur–aided by then-Majors Dwight Eisenhower and George Patton–led 200 cavalrymen, 400 infantrymen with fixed bayonets, and five tanks against the largest of the protesters’ encampments near the Anacostia River.

MacArthur’s troops drove the veterans out and burned the camp to the ground. By the end of the day, two veterans were dead, and dozens more–as well as many civilian onlookers–were wounded.”

From: http://eldib.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-march-of-the-bonus-army40000-veterans-of-the-first-world-war-made-their-way-to-washington-dc-in-the-summer-of-1932-to-demand-immediate-payment-of-a-bonus-under-a-law-passed-several-years-ear/


173 posted on 09/25/2009 12:27:17 PM PDT by reed13 (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we all have antifreeze, invite one in for a cool little drinky


174 posted on 09/29/2009 5:26:47 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting reading. Let us not forget that the defenders of the Constitution will be the Counter Insurgency. WE are the government.


175 posted on 09/29/2009 8:14:29 PM PDT by RatBastage
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To: NVDave

No economic activity, no tax revenue. No tax revenue... and the government soon has a problem funding government operations... like the military.

***************8

Can’t they just print money?


176 posted on 09/29/2009 10:47:34 PM PDT by ROTB ("By any means necessary"=EvilExcusd "The urge 2 save humanity is [often a ruse] for the urge 2 rule")
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To: ROTB

Yes, they can.

And at some point, the money becomes about as valuable as Zimbabwe’s.


177 posted on 09/29/2009 10:49:08 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Little Ray

There is more to fighting than owning a weapon and ammo. Regular armies regularly defeat MUCH larger groups of irregulars, especially if they’re stupid enough to meet them in open battle.

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I worked with a former marine who said his unit had a 5000+/1 kill ratio in Somalia.

Wow.


178 posted on 09/29/2009 11:02:09 PM PDT by ROTB ("By any means necessary"=EvilExcusd "The urge 2 save humanity is [often a ruse] for the urge 2 rule")
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To: rom

Amazing reading ping, especially the following:

A new friend of mine gave me a plaque the other day. Upon it is written these words by Winston Churchill, a man who knew much about fighting tyranny: “Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”


179 posted on 09/29/2009 11:28:41 PM PDT by ROTB ("By any means necessary"=EvilExcusd "The urge 2 save humanity is [often a ruse] for the urge 2 rule")
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To: ROTB

Amazing quote. Thank you.


180 posted on 09/30/2009 1:19:38 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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