Question for Palinistas. What will you say when...

vanity | 1-8-10 | Bob J

[Bob J]

...Palin endorses John McCain?

Top ten...

1) She's just "playing the game". Standing on principle and voting the RINO's out is fine as long as it doesn't interfere with Sarah becoming prez.

2) If Sarah says supporting RINO's is okay, that's good enough for me. The Messiah is infallible and what do I know?.

3) She's not being inconsistent, she's making a tactical retreat, but hey that's politics.

4) A smart move by the smartest woman in the world.

5) She didn't want to but the dims threatened to file an ethics complaint if she didn't.

6) She's not quiting, she's reloading.

7) What endorsement? That wasn't an endorsement she was repaying a political favor. Everyone does it.

8) That was part of her master plan to make dims and the MSM fear her even more...if that's even possible.

9) C'mon, McCain wasn't THAT bad...

10) Who cares? Look at those LEGS!

[mad_as_he$$]

Exactly!

[Eaker]

I was so amazed that there are some freepers who believe that the photograph of Jonestown seriously meant that you called JR a murderer, that I remain speechless --- that photograph has NOTHING to do with either Jim Robinson or with Sarah Palin --- but obviously, you had NO idea how it would be taken.

You are very vocal on an issue of which you have no understanding. Let me know if I need to reword my other post to you in clearer, simpler language so perhaps you can grasp the meaning.

[hennie pennie]

Don't bother -- I've read many months of Bob J's postings and only very few people address his issues and/or questions. When Bob J posts something, it's cause for a BASH-BOBJ PARTY; I know what's going on, and I also know that many freepers are extremely rude and do not care if they are rude. I've lurked here since 1999 and was aware of this website before I started lurking on it. Thank G-d NONE of the Sarah-Supporters I know in person, nor any of the tea partiers I've observed in Real Life are anything but politely well mannered considerate friendly people.

Good by and good luck to you.

Regards,
HP

[Eaker]

I've lurked here since 1999 and was aware of this website before I started lurking on it.

You keep repeating this useless phrase. For what its worth I started lurking just after the Civil War and started posting in the '60's before Al Gore invented the Internet.

As to Bob J, nobody owes him an answer to a "when did you quit beating your wife" question. The picture express the clear view that Jim Rob is the equivalent of Jim Jones and any FReeper that doesn't agree with Bob J is a brainless follower and cult member. This is clear to most everyone but you and no matter how many times you express your mistaken view it is changing no minds as it doesn't change the facts.

[hennie pennie]

Don't bother, Eaker... I'm not reading any more of your postings. I repeat:

Good by and good luck.

Regards,
HP

[hennie pennie]

Hello, Rebelbase.

What a nice way to ask a question.

Obviously you do not understand the meaning of the photograph that Bob J posted last night and which many freepers believed had become his "opus" posting and that he had called James Robinson a murderer.

I will continue to actively support Governor Palin and I hope that she is seriously considering a run for the presidency.

Good by and good luck to you, Rebelbase.

Regards,
HP

[Eaker]

Being wrong sucks but it happens, don’t let it get you down.

See ya.

[humblegunner]

Don't bother, Eaker... I'm not reading any more of your postings.

Niether am I! That Eaker is a pinhead.

The very NERVE of him!

[Mr. Silverback]

Ping!

[humblegunner]

For what its worth I started lurking just after the Civil War and started posting in the '60's before Al Gore invented the Internet.

I was a lurker for four centuries before I became an active member.

I remember in 1665-1666 we sent lots of posts (they were paper then)
to England to help with lighting the pyres of the dead.

That was a bad plague. Lost a lot of good folks from the forum then.

[ansel12]

If Sarah got nominated, I would expect Bob to get behind her. Bob J has gotten behind Newt, Romney, McCain, and has always been very nice about Giuliani, but Bob hates Palin.

[Eaker]

I'm not reading any more of your postings.

But I wish I would as that was funny!

[ansel12]

34 should have been pulled.

[Bob J]

Wow, leave for a night on the town and all hell breaks loose.

Let's get a few things straight. First, any objection to the pic I posted at 187 is simply ridiculous. As hennie pennie has pointed out (thanks Hennie) the use of the term “drink the kool aid” has to have been used at least 100,000 times on FR. It wasn't even posted to Jim yet people are alleging I called Jim a murderer. Huh?

Give me a break. The feigned outrage over actually posting a pic (which is worth 1000 words) which has also been done many times here to make a point are nothing but crocodile tears.

HP also correctly deduced the meaning. I've posted many times that my concern with the Palin worship is that if she doesn't get the nomination her supporters may be so outraged they pull a “PUMA” and boycott the election which could throw it to Obama. When someone asked what was so wrong with FR being Palin Country the pic told the answer better than I could...supporters might sacrifice their vote in a demonstration of indignation and kill any chance of unseating Obama taking the rest of us with them.

I have to believe 99% of posters understood my meaning and the outrage was feigned disgust and hyperbole.

I've also said many times that I like Sarah but don't love her and most of my comments are directed at the so called Palin worshipers who won't allow ANY kind constructive analysis or criticism of her, her actions or words. I and other critics have been subject to most vile and profane comments one can imagine. Yet all of these are okay and a pic of Jonestown a scandal? How many Palin supporters have expressed criticism at the filthy scatological and homosexual references (not to mention the obligatory ‘go back to DU’ refs) that are posted? Very few if any. So excuse me if I find your “outrage” at any of my comments a little hypocritical and self serving.

Lastly, I think the original question posted here is a valid one. Many on this website are currently engaged in a “burn down the tent” and “run the RINO’s out of town” effort. Anyone who expresses any kind of support for RINO’s, in particular McCain, Graham, etc. are asked to leave. Jim Robinson himself has made it clear that this is a RINO free zone and anyone not with the program is not welcome.

So what if Palin endorses and supports McCain? Does that mean we have to run Sarah out of town? Do people make excuses for it? Does she get a pass? Why not others as well? You can't draw a line in the sand like that then step over it the first time things don't go your way. People constantly talk about maintaining “principles” over politics, is that just talk?

IMO if this happens, it will be an opportunity for people to show their words weren't just loud but empty political rhetoric. Will Palin/anti-RINO supporters stick to their principles or toss them overboard for political expediency?

I got an idea how it will go down, I just wanted to hear from the people who are going to be effected most by it.

For the last time, if Palin wins the nom I will vote for her in the general. She hasn't won me over yet but there is still time. I'm not a Mittbot or Huckster or Paulite. Like Palin, there are things I like and don’ like about all of them. If Cheney were to run I would support him. I like DeMint and want to see where he goes. I haven't picked a candidate to support yet, it's still a long way off and nobody has declared.

[mkjessup]

34 should have been pulled.

It was pulled earlier this morning, but for reasons known only to God, JimRob and the moderators, it was reinstated.

[Mojave]

Will Palin/anti-RINO supporters stick to their principles or toss them overboard for political expediency?

Does the bear drink Kool-Aid in the woods?

[Grunthor]

What is it about John McCains’ brand of “conservatism” that you like most?

[Bob J]

“34 should have been pulled.”.

According to other posters it was and then reinstated, why I don’t know but it has got to mean something. But if anyone were to go over Palin threads over the last couple of months (not that anyone would or should) they would see that kind of reference many times as well as scatalogical, homosexual, sexual and masturbatory.

It all stays up so why not this? The little children who post them get such a kick out of it then ping their bretheren so they can all high five each other and revel in their intellectual prowess.

BTW - I admit to using FR time tested terms like blind, ignorant and stoopid. I don’t think they are in the same category but I’m sure some will equate them as such to provide a fig leaf for their own unexcusable behavior.

[mkjessup]

I’d just like to say Bob, that I appreciate your re-directing the usual indignation, faux-outrage and twisted panties of all these Freepers towards YOU, instead of their usual daily target, i.e. ‘me’, lol

[humblegunner]

But if anyone were to go over Palin threads over the last couple of months (not that anyone would or should) they would see that kind of reference many times as well as scatalogical, homosexual, sexual and masturbatory.

The same thing happens on the birther / Taitz worship threads.

It's a trend.

[ansel12]

It hardly gets more childish than a poster looking at a freep name and seeing the letters B and J close together, and thinking that he is seeing his big posting opportunity.

It compounds it when he uses the phrase and then throws in another curse word.

[mkjessup]

How are you doing Gunner?

I’ve come to admire the way you can p*ss off other posters with just a few select words (not that your #370 falls into that category), although I still didn’t appreaciate your less-than-complimentary comments about Duncan Hunter during the primaries, but hey: to each their own.

btw, Happy New Year! :)

[narses]

Well said. No chance of a PUMA reaction since Sarah has already proven she WILL back the team. Her fans will stay with her I believe.

[Bob J]

“What is it about John McCains’ brand of “conservatism” that you like most?”

Uhhh, who said I did? On the night of his election I posted the “Official FR Drinking Thread” where we all got drunk and lamented his nomination together. Then of course there were my famous “McCain Haiku” threads. But I’m sure you missed those since you don’t know what Haiku is.

If I ever was complementary to McCain on one issue, let’s say his support of vets or the war on terror, I am forever branded a McCain lover. Same with Romney, Rudy, etc.

On FR it’s impossible to see candidates as shades of grey, it’s black and white, my way or the highway.

And that’s what got us McCain. While the Mitt/Rudy/Huck/Fred supporters were drawing a line in the sand and playing a game of Mexican standoff, he slips in under the radar.

Thanks.

[Bob J]

I think it was my turn...

[Bob J]

I hope so. Hillary eventually backed Oabma but the PUMA’s still went on a rampage.

[Bob J]

“Bob J has gotten behind Newt, Romney, McCain, and has always been very nice about Giuliani, but Bob hates Palin.”

Ardent Palin supporters (Palinistas) need to get over characterizing any criticism of Sarah as “Palin hatred”.

Seriously, it’s infantile.

[humblegunner]

Duncan who? ;-)

Happy new year to you as well!

[narses]

Me I think the whole PUMA thing was a False Flag operation.

[paulycy]

Ardent Palin supporters (Palinistas) need to get over characterizing any criticism of Sarah as “Palin hatred”. Seriously, it’s infantile.

Some criticism of Sarah actually *is* "Palin hatred." In that case the conclusion is justified and the criticism itself is juvenile.

That's for the FReepers to decide.

That's what the FReepers are doing right now.

You're losing.

[r9etb]

Ardent Palin supporters (Palinistas) need to get over characterizing any criticism of Sarah as “Palin hatred”. Seriously, it’s infantile.

Well, yes.... which leads me to point out that accusations of "hatred" have heretofore been the province of leftists who are simply too lazy to debate based on facts?

But one supposes it's "elitist" to point that out -- and there's another little buzzword that seems to be increasingly popular among Palin's true believers.

[Bob J]

“Some criticism of Sarah actually *is* “Palin hatred.” In that case the conclusion is justified and the criticism itself is juvenile.”

Can you point it out? How about from me? I’m assuming you mean from other FReepers and not an article from NPR...

Nope?

[Bob J]

“You’re losing.”

You would think so if you’re part of the mob/thug. To you success is getting your posse together and ganging up on individuals to beat them into submission.

Believe me, you’re not winning. Hundreds if not thousands of people are reading this thread and recognize mob thuggery when they see it.

[paulycy]

Can you point it out?

I've read the entire thread over the past couple days.

I've seen the pictures.

This is a community forum and the community is speaking. Engaging sophists one-on-one is a waste of time and bandwidth. Call me any name you wish, that is my stance and I've taken it consistently in the past.

JimRob will decided and yes, I may actually believe that you deserve some credit for having been here a long time. Surprised? I try to be fair. My current opinion is that you are not being fair, simply contrarian. Sophists are like that.

Personally I don't care whether you come or go and I have no control over that in any case. But every once in awhile I see a false argument that just must be rebutted if only to point out that others are actually paying attention not only to the points but to the arguments that are made to support them. That's interesting.

Otherwise...

[Bob J]

Again, can you point out the Palin hatred?

[JRochelle]

You really are clueless.

I supported Bush in 2000. I now regret not supporting John McCain. McCain would not have spent money the way Bush did and he would fought the Iraq war better, in that it was McCain who was blasting Bush about needing more troops. Ended up that Bush took his advise and did in fact agree to a surge.

Other than those two things, there was not much differance between Bush and McCain.
McCain just has never been shy about spouting what he thinks, even if it is to blast Republicans.

Isn’t that what Sarah Palin in known for too?

I am not a party person like many on this board. I am a conservative. WHich means smaller government.

McCain would not have increased the size and scope of government the way Bush did.

All this hatred on these threads for McCain is something I just don’t get. Sure he screwed us but then so did Bush. Bush was worse.

[JRochelle]

There is no doubt that Palin will endorse and campaign for McCain against Hayworth.

NO DOUBT.

[Grunthor]

“What is it about John McCains’ brand of “conservatism” that you like most?”

Uhhh, who said I did?

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I am not saying that is the only time I see you posting but WHEN I see you posting it is either a slobbering worship McCain piece, or a piece attacking conservatives and people that vote for them.

Why is that?

[Mr. Silverback]

1. An equally valid question is, what will BobJ say when Mitt Romney (or whatever RINO you’re boosting) endorses McCain?

2. Your post could have been written by Andrew Sullivan. Word for word. No, I’m not kidding.

3. If Palin was a closet RINO, she wouldn’t have taken on Murkowski and his cabal in the first place, much less kicked their butts.

4. Now that I’ve read post 187...IBTZ.

[EveningStar]

Ardent Palin supporters (Palinistas) need to get over characterizing any criticism of Sarah as “Palin hatred”.

Seriously, it’s infantile.

"Infantile" is putting it very mildly.

[Paradox]

I was obviously not clear in my post, I was more taking to task Bob J for insulting Freepers who like Palin. The thought, however, did occur to me that others did likewise about other candidates. But yes, Bob J was being a jerk on this thread about it, no doubt.

[jla]

Ardent Palin supporters (Palinistas) need to get over characterizing any criticism of Sarah as "Palin hatred".

You're correct. Often it is blatant ignorance.

And I really don't think one who throws out terms such as 'Palinista' should be belittling anyone or anything as 'infantile'.

[Mr. Silverback]

If BobJ had a crush on the Jonas Brothers, would it be a BobJoBromance?

[Jim Robinson]

I love Palin’s conservatism and patriotism! She may very well support McCain out of loyalty and I have no problem with that. And I have no problem with whom she supports with her PAC. There is nothing written that says she has to do everything (or anything at all) according to JIM.

Sarah is unabashedly pro-God, pro-Life, pro-Liberty, pro-family, pro-America, pro-constitution, pro-gun, pro-limited government and so am I. And she’s wildly popular among the God-loving, Liberty-loving folks with whom I choose to associate. In short, she’s a refreshing breath of clean fresh air in an otherwise putrid failure of a RINO infested party.

She represents my interests better than any other viable wannabe at this point and if she decides to run, she will have my undivided support!!

Romney, the draft-dodging, Big Government, lying statist political whore can KMA!!

And your picture does say a 1,000 words, but Bob, unfortunately they’re all about YOU and political whores like you and the results and likely outcome of your slavish, cultish RINOism!!

So you can shove your picture and your RINOs where the sun don’t shine.

Sarah has more guts, talent, ability, patriotism, and sheer determination and love for America and our God-given Liberty than you and Romney and a thousand other RINOS will ever have!

It’s been more than obvious for several years that our pro-Life & Liberty Free Republic has become an embarrassment for you, so why the hell don’t you just take a fricken hike already!!

Shove it, pal.

GET THE HELL OFF FR if you don’t like it, but whatever you do quit your damn whining and pestering good conservative FReepers about your hatred for Sarah Palin!! It’s beyond sickening.

[hennie pennie]

Jim -— when do you predict that Governor Palin will announce that she is running for the presidency?

[Jim Robinson]

I have no idea.

[jla]

HG, What do you know about Ft Worth? Would you recommend it for a four-five day getaway?
I'm planning a return visit to your great State, though I'm leaning towards San Antonio again.

[Mr. Silverback]

Palin isn’t Jesus. I may not agree with every decision she makes, but right now, she represents the principles I stand for more than most other potential candidates I see out there.

Excellent answer.

[Mr. Silverback]

Yes, we should all get behind some other rock-ribbed conservative like Mitt Romney or Rudy Giuliani.

Here’s a tip: If your sight picture includes your foot, you need to think a bit before pulling the trigger.

[hennie pennie]

Okay, thanks - I thought you might have a much better sense of time than most political junkies; however, she is the author of GOING ROGUE and one of her positive defining characteristics is that her opponents can't predict her next move.

So many online posters seem certain that she won't declare before the results of 2010 are in, but I hope she's in the running before that. But... perhaps she'll decide on something else entirely... only time will tell.