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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: Fred Nerks
Of course it is...the Kenya BC came up again, they want to divert attention from it, by re-introducing the Bomford document.

I didn't re-introduce the Bomford document. I was specifically asked by several here what the source was.

Forget about the Bomford document. Here's the first "prototype" I did just to get an idea of how things would look and how to do the seal and "aging" before making the final version.




3,001 posted on 03/06/2010 4:08:47 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

“Michael Michael was Steve Eddy. “

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, SIR?

“Ender was not Michael Michael.”

And HOW do you know THAT?
So who is he?
And why should we believe YOU?


3,002 posted on 03/06/2010 4:10:51 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
That's a very nice picture.

Now back to FR's troll problem. Who are you? And who is Wiggy?

We aren't buying the forum fairytale. K?

3,003 posted on 03/06/2010 4:17:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MestaMachine
What an amazing study in psychology this thread is.

Btw, I'd say Freepers beat the Brazilnut team. What's your count? :-)

3,004 posted on 03/06/2010 4:18:46 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I don’t quite know. About half a zillion spat out popcorn kernals that didn’t pop.


3,005 posted on 03/06/2010 4:22:36 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: MestaMachine

Some do hold back info so as to not jeopardize it. I read about one poster today that had her computer info downloaded and then wiped, twice. Once from an IP from DC and then from Chicago. I don’t know ANYONE that would do that. Do you? :-)


3,006 posted on 03/06/2010 4:28:08 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

You do know the html commands of height=500 width=400, right?


3,007 posted on 03/06/2010 4:31:11 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

And you have not answered:

“Michael Michael was Steve Eddy. “

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, SIR?

“Ender was not Michael Michael.”

And HOW do you know THAT?
So who is he?
And why should we believe YOU?


3,008 posted on 03/06/2010 4:31:50 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
So, you did this one too?


3,009 posted on 03/06/2010 4:32:11 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: DJ MacWoW; sporkweasel
Behind the scenes of a zot
3,010 posted on 03/06/2010 4:32:17 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 408 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: opentalk

When the Hawaii Department of Health even agrees that it’s a forgery it should be pretty hard for people to defend the abuse given to those of us who have questioned it all along.

We were accused of not listening to the DOH all this time. Turns out we’re the only ones listening to the DOH now that they’ve made this admission.

Check out at http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/03/05/hawaii-department-of-health-has-conspired-against-the-public-for-5-months/ to see how the Vital Records Dept head has been checking online to see if citizens making requests are anti-Obama so he can decide how to respond to them. And if he decides he doesn’t want to respond he says the information requested is “confidential” (regardless of the fact that Hawaii law requires all forms and descriptions of how the forms are processed to be available to the public). That is exactly what Fukino has been doing all along. Flipping us all the bird while the adoring media cheers.

It’s not just Obama who is jerking everybody around; it’s the folks in Hawaii too. My gut feeling is that he’s offering carrots and sticks. Sticks being lawsuits or worse (like he did, threatening the media with FCC license revocation if they reported on it) and carrots being his willingness to sign a Hawaii sovereignty bill if it gets to him (plus the programs to help Native Hawaiians).

In any event, there is a lot of documented corruption here and we, the people, need to find a way to keep our government, media, and law enforcement honest.


3,011 posted on 03/06/2010 4:34:03 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: DJ MacWoW; Fred Nerks; Darksheare

Ping


3,012 posted on 03/06/2010 4:34:56 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I see it.


3,013 posted on 03/06/2010 4:36:01 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

Welcome to FR. Enjoy your stay...


3,014 posted on 03/06/2010 4:36:07 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 408 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
How about this one?


3,015 posted on 03/06/2010 4:40:31 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: null and void; EnderWiggins; KenyanBCPunkster; I Am Not A Mod
LOL, Wigout and Punky Brewster here both got saaaaacked yesterday.
Too bad they aren't dragging I Am Not A Mod from semi retirement at the Ungh and Moose for this.
It's hugh I tell you!
3,016 posted on 03/06/2010 4:42:22 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

3,017 posted on 03/06/2010 4:43:39 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yes, I saw that. Just posted the link here also before I saw your post. That is so maddening. If that guy keeps his job Hawaii is filthier than even I can imagine.

But what he did is actually going to be encoded into law if Espero’s “Vexatious Requestors” bill passes. They can deny some people access to public records simply because the government worker feels peeved by it or thinks there’s an “agenda” (working with other people to get answers is so conspiratorial, ya know).

I’m thinking about posting on my blog the whole communication I’ve had just trying to get a blank copy of a standard birth certificate - which is REQUIRED for them to make available to the public, as are explanations for terminology and the procedures they use to process those forms. It’s unreal. If a person wants to either laugh or cry it should be a good post for them.

They even deleted part of the history of the communications to hide that I had already explained what they then ask me to explain - when they say they don’t understand why I keep asking them for something they’ve already given and I should explain what laws I say they’re breaking (which was in the communication they deleted from the e-mail history).

I’m sure they would say that I am “mentally ill” because I “can’t recognize when my request has already been answered” (to use OIP’s director, Cathy Takase’s language in a hearing testifying as to why she should be able to decide who is a “vexatious requestor” and blacklist people like me for 2 years.

It’s just crooked and wrong on so many levels. People really need to comprehend what these people are doing.

I’ve half a mind to post a bunch of the communications which show how these people have been jerking us around. A lot of it is technical but some of it is so blatant anybody could see it.


3,018 posted on 03/06/2010 4:47:06 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: null and void

Ah yes. The ZOT 9000. :-)


3,019 posted on 03/06/2010 4:49:12 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: BP2; parsifal; Jim Robinson
“Once again ... about your luncheon with Jim Robinson (in Post 2859):

- Where was it?
- When was it?
- What was the occasion?
- Where did you eat lunch (restaurant or his house)?
- What did you have for lunch?
- Who else was with you?
- Was it raining, snowing or just another hot Fresno day?
- What other specifics do you have of your meeting with JimRob?”

It is a shame that Parsifal can not remember anything about the time he had lunch with JimRob. My brain is rather old, but I sure remember when I had (not lunch) but dinner with JimRob. In fact it was twice. Once in one place sitting at Jim's table, the other time in the same dining room with Jim. I do remember WHERE it was, WHEN it was, and WHAT the occasion was. I also remember who else was with us and even WHAT my hubby and I had to eat! Both were great fun occasions, but the second time I thought we might need to go out and catch and cook our food ourselves as it took over an hour to be served!! We won't eat THERE again!! :)

3,020 posted on 03/06/2010 4:50:49 PM PST by seekthetruth (Support Ed Lynch In FL Dist.19; Dan Fanelli In FL Dist. 8 ; Allen West in FL Dist. 22!)
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To: butterdezillion

Remember, the ‘safety in numbers’ rule, if you do put it up on your blog, let other sites know about it also, I might suggest Atlas Shrugs, World Net Daily, Post and E-mail for example. Let the thugs try and go after them!


3,021 posted on 03/06/2010 4:52:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
So, you did this one too?

Yes.


3,022 posted on 03/06/2010 4:53:52 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: Las Vegas Ron
How about this one?

Yes.


3,023 posted on 03/06/2010 4:55:07 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

Oh, you can answer that, but not this:

“Michael Michael was Steve Eddy. “

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, SIR?

“Ender was not Michael Michael.”

And HOW do you know THAT?
So who is he?
And why should we believe YOU?


3,024 posted on 03/06/2010 4:55:45 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

What about the second one I posted, you did that one too?


3,025 posted on 03/06/2010 4:56:56 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Not up close and personal...by choice, I might add. But I will tell you that I make 2 hard copies of EVERY freakin’ thing and send ONE out of the country for safe keeping. Comes a day....


3,026 posted on 03/06/2010 4:57:13 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

OK. Impress me. Produce an authentic BC for 0bama.


3,027 posted on 03/06/2010 4:57:44 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 408 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: seekthetruth

When do I get to have lunch with Jim Robinson? lol.


3,028 posted on 03/06/2010 4:58:11 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: MestaMachine; All

> I am impressed. Remind me never to lie to you...EVER!

The last guy I caught who LIED to me in person was an ex-business partner that was nothing more than a white collar scam artist. A sociopath — much like Obama, actually. I can smell the characteristic traits a mile away ... now ... LOL. Barry fits the bill to a T!

Trice a millionaire, this person had been scamming people in the community for more than 20 years ... friends, fellow church-goers, in-laws, etc. He sold lies, sometimes using aliases, often rotating his circles of influence and moving to new neighborhoods (and wives). I discovered a long line of victims and I did not want it to continue.

Needless to say, once I FULLY and extensively uncovered and exposed his FELONY background and list of jaded victims to the community:

- his wife filed for divorce
- he was under investigation by the State Securities Board
- he had all of his State certifications revoked
- his Porche and Hummer were repossessed
- he was forced to surrender his franchise license
- all of his other partners in all of his other scams abandoned him

- and his son refused to let him alone with the grandkids anymore.

As a result, he was forced to sell his mansion. Last I heard, he now lives in an apartment with two other guys, selling some MLM get-rich-quick scam to unsuspecting college students. At least his damage is minimized now.

I have NO patience — and less sympathy — for LIARS.



3,029 posted on 03/06/2010 4:58:24 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
What about the second one I posted, you did that one too?

Which second one do you mean? You mean the second one in the one image that was made up using two images?

If so, yes.


3,030 posted on 03/06/2010 5:00:25 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

“Michael Michael was Steve Eddy. “

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, SIR?

“Ender was not Michael Michael.”

And HOW do you know THAT?
So who is he?
And why should we believe YOU?


3,031 posted on 03/06/2010 5:01:33 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: Fred Nerks

I’ve tried to let Worldnetdaily know about my blog but I have never been able to get any kind of a response from them. I haven’t tried Atlas Shrugs. John Charlton actually posted my “Red Flags” post on The Post & E-mail the same day (or maybe the night before) I put it on my blog. In fact, I started the blog so I could have URL’s for him to link to the documentation if he wanted to.

I’m not much of a media person; I guess I’m sort of relying on others to get the word out. If somebody tells me how to get the attention of WND and other places I’d be happy to let them know what’s up.


3,032 posted on 03/06/2010 5:01:52 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
So you say you did all of these and we're supposed to just take your word for it?

You got caught yesterday and have zero credibility.

How bout a snap shot with the BC and todays paper?

Where's wiggy?

3,033 posted on 03/06/2010 5:03:26 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: BP2

May God give you success in doing the same thing to the scam artist occupying the White House. =)


3,034 posted on 03/06/2010 5:04:04 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; Fred Nerks

Many of us aren’t media people, we’re truly grassroots.
That’s why it is such a “horror” for the MSM when we catch them.
Because if the mom and pop ‘little people’ in western elbowtown can catch them in lies like we do, what else can we do?
And that is why I like FR.


3,035 posted on 03/06/2010 5:04:15 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: null and void

null, THAT is priceless! My stomach hurts now. Thanks ever so much!


3,036 posted on 03/06/2010 5:04:37 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: null and void

Since there has yet to be an authentic CoLB made public for the affirmative action fraud-in-chief, heaqd democrat, how will anyone know when an authenitc one IS produced? I mean, factcheck has posted three different versions and Barry’s own political campaign site posted two of those. The shell game is designed for this sort of deceit!


3,037 posted on 03/06/2010 5:04:51 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MestaMachine

Good idea! I don’t save anything. I read it and move on.


3,038 posted on 03/06/2010 5:07:29 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MHGinTN; null and void

“how will anyone know when an authenitc one IS produced? “

Because FR will be there and our people will pick it apart with a fine tooth comb, much like they did with the Killian memos.
And we’ll all be there to see it happen.


3,039 posted on 03/06/2010 5:08:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: opentalk

Did he intentionally put this in his book to deflect inquires
+____________________
I think he did.


3,040 posted on 03/06/2010 5:09:00 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: null and void

The spork weasel settings need cambering ...


3,041 posted on 03/06/2010 5:11:35 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

No. Ender was not Michael Michael. Michael Michael was Steve Eddy.
______________
and you know this how? TROLL


3,042 posted on 03/06/2010 5:11:49 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: MestaMachine
Ma'am...


3,043 posted on 03/06/2010 5:12:56 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 408 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
So you say you did all of these and we're supposed to just take your word for it?

Take or leave whatever you wish.

You got caught yesterday and have zero credibility.

Got caught what?

How bout a snap shot with the BC and todays paper?

It was tossed in the garbage after the Punk'd photos were taken.


3,044 posted on 03/06/2010 5:13:01 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
Nobody is buying your story of how you met Wiggy. You claim it doesn't matter but it does since it speaks to your veracity.

There is no reason to believe you or wiggy. I think you are friends running a scam. You let slip some info and refuse to explain how you knew. There is no reason to believe you.

3,045 posted on 03/06/2010 5:16:49 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
Take or leave whatever you wish.Got caught what?

Tag teaming with your buddy wiggie, who you met on a "forum", who you outed as a liar....where is wiggie anyway.

How bout a snap shot with the BC and today's paper?

How convenient, I believe you, you really I do. A person who claims he spends his time creating fraudulent documents, uh, huh, riiiiiight.

Have any ocean property in Arizona you want to sell?

Enjoy your stay on FR.

3,046 posted on 03/06/2010 5:19:15 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Stuff you KNOW is going to disappear...sometimes within minutes, you grab and you don’t let it go. I burn that stuff to CDs and it has come in handy more than a few times. The first time someone got to one of my computers, I was devastated. I had so much research on it that I still have the thing and when I need it, I will take it somewhere and recover what is still on that hard drive. Since then, i don’t take chances anymore. I have backup TB Turbo hard drive and I don’t ever plan to lose stuff again.
I have firewalls within firewalls, but once hacked,twice shy. I scan this mother every single day. Paranoia runs deep.


3,047 posted on 03/06/2010 5:19:55 PM PST by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: MestaMachine

I hear ya! I had an external hard drive but my machine kept crashing. Fried it. So I never saved any info.


3,048 posted on 03/06/2010 5:23:03 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
It was tossed in the garbage after the Punk'd photos were taken.

Really? Why. I thought you said forgery wasn't illegal?

3,049 posted on 03/06/2010 5:24:17 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

“Michael Michael was Steve Eddy. “

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS, SIR?

“Ender was not Michael Michael.”

And HOW do you know THAT?
So who is he?
And why should we believe YOU?


3,050 posted on 03/06/2010 5:24:18 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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