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Ridding Ourselves of Obama
Right Side News ^ | July 18, 2010 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 07/19/2010 5:31:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

"The hope that fired up the election of Barack Obama has flickered out, leaving a national mood of despair and disappointment. Americans are dispirited over how wrong things are and uncertain they can be made right again. Hope may have been a quick breakfast, but it has proved a poor supper." -- Mortimer Zuckerman, Editor-in-Chief, US News & World Report, July 2, 2010

This from a man who on Fox News recently said he voted for Obama, his newspaper, the New York Daily News, endorsed Obama, and that he even helped one of his speeches!

The problem is an ancient one. How to remove from office a king or, in a republic, an elected leader who has broken the law and/or is perceived to be a threat to both the present and future of the nation? In earlier eras, the solution was usually bloody.

"Who will rid me of this meddling priest?" England's King Henry II was reputed to have said of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury. In 1170, his complaint was obliged when Becket was murdered on a cold December evening.

I cite this famous quote only because the tide is rising among Americans who would be rid of Barack Obama. I would never suggest or condone the sword, but surely one would think we the People might have recourse to the courts or Congress.

The fear in both the courts and Congress is the torturous process involved and, of course, the outcome.

Twice in our history, impeachment has been tried and failed, first with Andrew Johnson whose Reconstruction policies following the Civil War were in much disfavor and, in more recent times, with Bill Clinton whose perjuries and other problems were not deemed to rise to a level worthy of removing him from office. Richard Nixon resigned before he could be impeached.

The Constitution stipulates that "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

The drawback of impeachment is the way it would inevitably cast Obama as the victim of predatory politicians. It is not a good choice.

Presumably, lying about one's eligibility to hold the office of President and spending huge sums to ensure that one's birth certificate and actual place of birth shall remain unknown would justify removal.

We all know by now that, constitutionally, only a "natural born" citizen may serve as President. His father was a British citizen and both parents must be American to qualify as natural born. We all know that considerable controversy exists as regards the birthplace and citizenship status of Obama. Was he a Kenyan? Was he an Indonesian citizen at one point?

The enduring question on the minds of many is why the court cases filed to get at the facts regarding his eligibility have encountered so much resistance? Surely this is a matter of major national concern. What nation would permit an imposter to serve in its highest office?

Alas, early cases were dismissed when those bringing them were deemed to have no "standing" before the court though one might think the lowliest citizen should have standing.

As wrenching as the process of removing Obama from office via the judicial process might be deemed, there is no legitimate reason not to proceed.

There appears to be no evidence his birth was registered with the American embassy or consulate in Kenya. I have seen a photo of a document said to be his Kenyan birth certificate. Having no way to authenticate it, I am reluctant to pass judgment.

The birth certificate from Hawaii, offered during the 2008 campaign, is said to be one issued upon request as opposed to the "long form" issued for those actually born there. There was some question raised at the time as to its authenticity with allegations that it was photoshopped. There is a question whether a long form certificate exists.

My personal view is that many in government fear the consequences of removing even an illegitimate President from office, given that it would require that all legislation signed into law and all executive orders issued by him would be rendered invalid. I suspect some fear that chaos more than waiting and hoping the electoral process will end his term in 2012.

My problem is that the nation must endure some 900 more days of the malevolence or sheer incompetence he will initiate; including a lame duck session of Congress following the midterm elections that would impose Cap-and-Trade, card check, and other legislative abominations.

A large majority of the electorate presently wants Obamacare repealed and will likely feel the same about the alleged financial "reforms."

There are constitutional scholars who know far more about such things than me, but I confess to remaining baffled by the failure to attend to the critical question regarding the right of Barack Hussein Obama to be the President of the United States.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; sixth100days
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1 posted on 07/19/2010 5:31:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The drawback of impeachment is the way it would inevitably cast Obama as the victim of predatory politicians. It is not a good choice.

Not electing him to a 3rd term will also be considered predatory politics, regardless of the 22nd Amendment. The dumb ones will hate us for life!

2 posted on 07/19/2010 5:36:53 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too late, Mort. Your likeness is forever tattooed on Obama’s scrawny backside.


3 posted on 07/19/2010 5:38:09 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We should be focused on voting this joker out of office in a democratic election, not this idiotic birther nonsense.


4 posted on 07/19/2010 5:40:00 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent post!!


5 posted on 07/19/2010 5:41:59 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (Zero will never be my President, never!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There are constitutional scholars who know far more about such things than me, but I confess to remaining baffled by the failure to attend to the critical question regarding the right of Barack Hussein Obama to be the President of the United States.

Indeed. I think that the good doctor speaks for us all.

6 posted on 07/19/2010 5:42:50 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I confess to remaining baffled by the failure to attend to the critical question regarding the right of Barack Hussein Obama to be the President of the United States.”

You and me both, buckaroo.


7 posted on 07/19/2010 5:43:16 PM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: Kleon
We should be focused on voting this joker out of office in a democratic election,...

Isn't that a racist statement?

Or at least a half racist statement?

8 posted on 07/19/2010 5:44:48 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Give it up, he is here for many years. King Obama will be our first dictator. Half way there now.
9 posted on 07/19/2010 5:45:50 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The hope that fired up the election of Barack Obama has flickered out, leaving a national mood of despair and disappointment. Americans are dispirited over how wrong things are and uncertain they can be made right again. Hope may have been a quick breakfast, but it has proved a poor supper."

People looked to a personality when they ought to have been looking at characater and principles.

You can't just look at the make and model of the car, it rather matters which way the car is pointed.

As any number of us have noted, the biggest problem isn't the man in the White House, though, so much as the 51 percent of Americans who thought he was the cat's meow. Impeach him, remove him, and I'll be smiling but the 51% are going to elect another fool just like him if they haven't learned anything other than the fact that he was the wrong fool.

We don't teach the founding principles anywhere anymore, and every year we graduate another wave of new voters who haven't got a clue where freedom comes from or what its good for. They don't understand rule of law and they don't understand cause and effect when it comes to economics. They elected Obama because he told them what they wanted to believe and even once we've removed him they will still want to believe it. We've got to win the battle for the White House, true enough, but we've got to win the war of ideas too or two years from now we're going to be right back where we are now, different face at the White House, but same tom-foolery.

10 posted on 07/19/2010 5:46:18 PM PDT by marron
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To: Logical me

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11 posted on 07/19/2010 5:54:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Soapbox & Ballot Box or Ammo Box.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good article. If they do not remove him you can kiss the USA goodbye. Enabled by idiots who watch TV as TV is 110% behind him.

Mort Zuckerman is a lib idiot s*it, BUT....he knows O will wipe out the working class, middle class and upper middle class. These people are Zuckerman’s customers. Mort is a businessman and he knows business will NOT NOT hire people as long as Hussein is in charge.

Zuckerman is realizing that Atlas Effing SHRUGGED on election night in 2008. Zuckerman knows if it is not removed by impeachment or BC then it is ALL over. Kiss the USA goodbye enabled by idiots who watch TV.

The Zuckermans or other billionaires may be his downfall.

I bitch about boycotting TV forever, not watching Hollywood movies, boycotting the lib media, newspapers and magazines because unless you hit them HARD in the pocketbook - they will not dump the marxist.

BTW - Fox/Saudia is not our friend.


12 posted on 07/19/2010 5:55:56 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Kleon

Nonsense. 2012 will be too late. Also who says there will be a democratc election in 2010 or 2012. He controls the media, internet, healthcare, banks and financial services, most of the auto industry and soon the energy industry.

I guess Germans thought they would get a chance to vote Hitler out or Venezuelans never expected Carter to back the election Chavez stole.

Wake up.


13 posted on 07/19/2010 5:59:40 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Frantzie
Venezuelans never expected Carter to back the election Chavez stole.

I know Venezuelans who were completely taken aback by that, mystified, they simply couldn't compute the notion that Carter would side with Chavez.

I tried to explain the real Carter but his betrayal really wounded them to the core, they really didn't see it coming.

14 posted on 07/19/2010 6:05:21 PM PDT by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

15 posted on 07/19/2010 6:05:25 PM PDT by gunnyg (Surrounded By The Enemy Within--~ Our "Novembers" Are Behind Us...If Ya Can Grok That!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hope is exactly what we need. The problem isn't that Hope failed us. It's that the leftist impostors and liars have hijacked and gutted meaningful words that reflect our values and turned those words into meaningless gibberish, as George Orwell's 1984 prophesied.

Because the megaphones are in the hands of the leftist impostors and liars, the twisted applications of these words get repeated by everyone including true conservatives unwittingly playing into the quicksand of creating a valueless society - just what the leftists want.

Lying title: "Stimulus" – True title: “Government take over.” An economic wrecking ball and crane.
Lying title: "Liberal" – True title: “Vile” (Isaiah 32:5). True title II: "Tyrant."
Lying title: "ObamaCare" – True title: "ObamaScarcity." True title II: "Socialist Death to the Masses."
Lying title: "Obama’s ‘Hope'" - True title: "Obama’s Power Grab Extinguishing Hope."

Can we quit calling things what aren’t and quit agreeing with the leftists in word if not in deed?

16 posted on 07/19/2010 6:09:29 PM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: gunnyg
I'm sure this wasn't meant, but this looks like a torn-up American flag.

Not encouraging.

17 posted on 07/19/2010 6:12:39 PM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: Frantzie

Do Americans want to rid ourselves of this mess? Gallup poll today still shows him with an approval of 49. Low but still way too strong considering the disaster this presidency has been and the corruption among him and other Dems. In state after state his approval rating is still very high, including states like CA where the economy is going down the drain. People still somehow think he is on their side. I guess it’s going to take a lot more until a majority get hit over the head with reality. By that time it could be too late.


18 posted on 07/19/2010 6:13:20 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
but I confess to remaining baffled by the failure to attend to the critical question regarding the right of Barack Hussein Obama to be the President of the United States.
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I am baffled by the neglect of Rush Limbaugh and the other so-called “conservative” talk show host to bring attention to the problem. I am more than “baffled”. I hold them in contempt. I am disgusted.

If these guys and gals can't defend the Constitution ( ALL of it, even that itty bitty phrase about being natural born) in the face of a little ridicule from the mainstream media, why on earth would we expect them to defend the Constitution in the face of real tyranny, jack boots at the door, and gas ovens in the concentration camps going full-blast?

These so-called conservative yappers are phonies and cowards. If tyranny comes to America they will either sell their talents to the fascist oligarchy or snivel in a corner.

19 posted on 07/19/2010 6:15:42 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Logical me
Give it up, he is here for many years. King Obama will be our first dictator. Half way there now.

He's not my king. I have a choice to refuse his authority.

I think there are plenty who are ready to die if necessary for their freedom. Sorry you're not one of them.

20 posted on 07/19/2010 6:16:09 PM PDT by Jim 0216
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