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Forget ‘birthers' — ‘thirders' are scarier (Ultra Barf Alert) [This is how they view us]
The Treasure Coast Palm ^ | April 23, 2011 | John Young

Posted on 04/22/2011 11:03:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump leads other Republicans by 9 points in a new Public Policy Polling presidential survey. That tells us this much: Democrats, you haven't had as bad a year as you think.

If Trump is the Republicans' offering to lead us, Walter Mondale at last may be able to surrender that traveling trophy for worst modern-day Electoral College pummeling.

But wait. It says here that Trump is a dead-solid lock to get at least 33 percent of the popular vote, if not a vote more.

How can I make that preliminary prediction? That's easy.

Based on any number of polls, one of three Americans could be led to believe anything — particularly if damning about Barack Obama. And they would vote for anybody else — even a body in the late stages of decomposition.

If asked, "Do you believe President Obama was Patient Zero for Chagas disease?" One third of Americans would answer "yes." And then fearfully look the ailment up.

It's a fascinating parlor game to see what this particular third of the nation is asserting — or buying, as it were.

The most recent poll I find on the origin of Obama's birth — and since when do said matters come down to polling data? — finds that, sure enough, roughly 30 percent of Americans don't think he was born here. It wouldn't matter what factcheck.org (type in "Obama birth"), or even the righter-than-right National Review say in ridiculing the notion. These people believe what they believe.

"Birthers" like Trump are only a curious subset of a curiouser set. They are among the "thirders," one third of us — those who defy most logic, and most evidence, supplying their own brand of it at every turn, often aided by Fox News and rabbit holes of hoax, innuendo and pseudo-information on the Internet.

What defines a thirder? Assertions like these:

A thirder believes that Saddam Hussein was tied to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Still.

A thirder believes that the WMDs were found. The media are just covering it up.

A thirder believes that Sarah Palin, George W. Bush and Joe the Plumber are well-read.

A thirder believes that if Mike Huckabee says Obama was born in Kenya, that settles it.

A thirder believes that despite every intimation of every founder in designing a framework for many faiths, what they really had in mind was a Christian nation.

A thirder believes still that AIDS is a punishment from God for being a male homosexual.

A thirder believes that evolution is a lie, as is climate change and most of whatever most scientists say — and where are their birth certificates?

A thirder believes that global warming is Al Gore's theory.

The fact that a third of Americans believe these things explains why Glenn Beck can rustle up a crowd verging on huge at the Lincoln Memorial. One-third is a lot of us, and many of those people have day privileges.

It's enough, for sure, for "tea parties" to form and to rivet the media's and Republican politicians' attention, and for many to believe that in the sound, fury and quaint signs like "Obama's plan: white slavery" these people speak for America.

Well, they do, for one third of America. Check the polls.

Karl Rove understood this. He knew that if his party focused on keeping one third of us in a froth based on hot-button issues like abortion, gay marriage and, of course, menacing Muslims, all a candidate need to do is win a relatively small portion of the reasonable or reasoned vote, to have the one-vote majority to win office. Even if that one vote was in the Supreme Court.

Donald Trump can do the same. Or Sarah Palin. Or Mike Huckabee. Or Newt Gingrich.

Which of them will be the first to try out that "white slavery" slogan?

Come on, candidates. Listen to the voice of the people.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: obama; palin; teaparty; trump
Got that?
1 posted on 04/22/2011 11:03:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to start making a list — and it is going to be a long one — of all the people we need to send dead crows after the unpalatable truth about Obama is finally shoved down his defender’s collective throats and accepted.


2 posted on 04/22/2011 11:10:07 PM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Proud “thirder” here ! ;-D


3 posted on 04/22/2011 11:13:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WHO IS JOHN GALT, ER... JOHN YOUNG???? The Treasury Coast Palm? A crock. We will all come together at the stretch.


4 posted on 04/22/2011 11:15:02 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Clever little propagandist.

Of course it is among the left-wing that you will hear about calls for getting rid of a third of the population in order to save the earth.

Sick little genocidal left-wing greenies.

Of course it also among the left-wing where you will hear that it is normal and a Constitutional right for some transgendered freak to divide his gender into thirds and then marrying two other trangendered freaks. And if you dont accept the three freaks being married then you must be punished by government. Dont disciminate.

Sick little perverted left-wing fascists.

But when it really comes to being a thirder that would never be good enough for the left-wing. They do just not want to have government confiscate a third of your earnings. No. They want it all.

When it comes to being even one third patriotic the left-wing fails. They are 100% traitors to this nation.


5 posted on 04/22/2011 11:22:53 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

Wasn’t it Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn who had no problem with killing over 25 million Americans to get the utopia they desired?


6 posted on 04/22/2011 11:49:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education. TR)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's a fascinating parlor game to see what this particular third of the nation is asserting — or buying, as it were. It sure is - his approval rating is higher than that! IDIOTS.
7 posted on 04/22/2011 11:57:01 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx
He left off the list the idiots that elected Obama as their primary candidate and the 52% of Americans dumb enough to vote for Obama LOL!
8 posted on 04/23/2011 12:27:19 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's people like Ms.Young who will be surprised when the Union again dissolves. I pray it happens in my life time.
9 posted on 04/23/2011 12:31:19 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: carcraft

Of course, but he’s a democrat shill, pimping the democrat PPL poll that samples *adults*, not registered voters....LOL.

I got a call fron PPL the other night, asking my opinion about doing away with the electoral college. Press one for yes, two for no.

Press one for democrat, two for Republican and three for Independent.

I voted no as a democrat.

Har!

When it came to age I played college student - young adult.


10 posted on 04/23/2011 12:42:40 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author is a pinhead.


11 posted on 04/23/2011 1:35:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What defines a fourther? Assertions like these:

A fourther believes that George Bush was responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Still.

A fourther believes that the US is a criminal nation.

A fourther believes that Hillary Clinton, Susan Estrich and Joe Biden are intelligent and have good looks.

A fourther believes that if Chris Matthews says Republicans are responsible for all our problems, that settles it.

A fourther believes that that there is no God, and the Bible is a fairy tale. The Koran. however, is a holy book.

A fourther believes still that it is the government that is the source of all wealth.

A fourther believes that evolution is a fact, as is climate change. Anything that the deniers say is a lie intended to deceive the elite.

A fourther believes that global warming has been proved by Al Gore.

The fact that a fourth of Americans believe these things explains why Stephen Colbert can rustle up a modest crowd at the Lincoln Memorial. One-fourth is a lot of us, and many of those people have reproductive privileges.

Fixed it.


12 posted on 04/23/2011 2:39:38 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey
"Fixed it."

Bravo! Excellent job.

13 posted on 04/23/2011 2:47:44 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like the ‘thirders’ who believe the economy is doing great. And the ‘thirders’ who believe Obama is one of the best presidents ever. Move along.


14 posted on 04/23/2011 4:33:29 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Proud “thirder” here !
___________________

I 'third' that!!
15 posted on 04/23/2011 4:45:37 AM PDT by trailz
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To: BigCinBigD

“It’s people like Ms.Young who will be surprised when the Union again dissolves.”

Are states really “free” if they cannot leave this abusive relationship? We didn’t sign up to be a battered wife to Uncle Sam.


16 posted on 04/23/2011 5:33:30 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Based on any number of polls, one of three Americans could be led to believe anything — particularly if damning about Barack Obama. And they would vote for anybody else — even a body in the late stages of decomposition.

I must be a "thirder". I would cheerfully vote for quite a few options, living or dead, over the communist who is trying to turn my country into a decomposing body. I would vote for many of the millions of natural born citizens who have attained the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States, who did not vote for Obama in 2008, even if my candidate was (like so many Obama voters) entering the late stages of decomposition. My requirements: the candidate who receives my vote must believe in a limited government with enumerated powers circumscribed by the limits in the Constitution of the United States, my candidate must promise to dismantle the entire legacy of the communist who has for over two terrible years occupied our White House, and my candidate must be believable with that promise (sorry, Mitt, but RomneyCare doomed you).

17 posted on 04/23/2011 6:01:22 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

is a thirder one that believes 9/11 was an inside job.


18 posted on 04/23/2011 7:18:10 AM PDT by unseen1
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To: TheBigIf

19 posted on 04/23/2011 8:07:01 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1- PT Barnum - ‘There’s a sucker born every minute’.
2- Goebbels convinced Germany that Hitler was good.
3- Power of advertising.
4- Moynihan - Boob bait for the Bubbas.
5- Failure of school system
6- 1/3 of people believe what they want to believe.

And a lot more reasons for what people think is true.


20 posted on 04/23/2011 8:19:50 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are some people whose respect I don’t even want. Add John Young to that list.


21 posted on 04/23/2011 9:34:50 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A thirder believes that Saddam Hussein was tied to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Still.

A thirder believes that the WMDs were found. The media are just covering it up.

A thirder believes that Sarah Palin, George W. Bush and Joe the Plumber are well-read.

A thirder believes that if Mike Huckabee says Obama was born in Kenya, that settles it.

A thirder believes that despite every intimation of every founder in designing a framework for many faiths, what they really had in mind was a Christian nation.
A thirder believes still that AIDS is a punishment from God for being a male homosexual.

A thirder believes that evolution is a lie, as is climate change and most of whatever most scientists say — and where are their birth certificates?

A thirder believes that global warming is Al Gore’s theory.


The name of this article should be changed to:

“The attack Of The Straw Men”

STE=Q


22 posted on 04/24/2011 12:30:30 AM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: Ronin

Where can I go to put in a bid for supplying dead crows?

I can supply beaucoups of them by Nov. 8 2012, even more by Jan 21 2013.

Let me know.

Caddis the Elder


23 posted on 05/01/2011 11:47:44 AM PDT by palmerizedCaddis
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