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Obama Sr. did not list Obama II as his child on Aug, 31, 1962
Heather Smather's immigration file ^ | May 1, 2011 | self

Posted on 05/01/2011 7:06:50 AM PDT by FR_addict

In Obama Senior's immigration file p.35 part II, there is another extension of time. Obama Sr. lists Ann S. Dunham as his wife (he blacked out something or someone else on this line), but left children blank. On Page 36 part IV of the same form, he certifies that everything is true. The date here is Aug, 31 1961, when Obama II was just a few weeks old.

On p 32, William Wood has a memo dated 8/31/61 saying that Obama has a child living with the mother (Obama II), but he didn't get this off Obama father's form.

Not sure where Wood got this information.


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Summary of Barack Obama Senior’s Immigration Files

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File

In another extension to stay from 1962, he lists Roy Obama as a child, but no Obama.

1 posted on 05/01/2011 7:06:54 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

What a surprise.
Obamas father was a self centered turd.


2 posted on 05/01/2011 7:14:08 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1 .00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: FR_addict

Obama Senior just said whatever he thought would be most helpful to him at any given moment, and truth be damned; furthermore, he clearly had utter contempt for the legal procedures. His son obviously takes after him in all of that.


3 posted on 05/01/2011 7:15:01 AM PDT by livius
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To: FR_addict

You have give credit to Obama: The birth certificate was a brilliantly played Red Herring diversion.

The Obamination has lots to hide. He used to birth certificate issue to hide the real issues.


4 posted on 05/01/2011 7:15:14 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FR_addict

The guy was a liar, so no surprise he could have lied about having a child


5 posted on 05/01/2011 7:15:41 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: FR_addict
Interesting...

Like Trump said: Why did Obama spend big bucks to hide "stuff".

Let's suppose the real father is _______________.

6 posted on 05/01/2011 7:15:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: FR_addict

I am not suggesting that our next President be a certified Mayflower descendant, but could we simply apply the same standards to the POTUS as we would to the manager of a McDonald’s?


7 posted on 05/01/2011 7:16:50 AM PDT by jmcenanly ( "We pay a person the compliment of acknowledging his superiority whenever we lie to him." -Samuel)
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To: FR_addict

8 posted on 05/01/2011 7:17:56 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
You're right...the Birth certificate is the red herring. Just suppose Obama's REAL father is a Kenyan diplomat....That would sure put a kink in things.

And since Obama never knew his father, his book was another Red Herring.

9 posted on 05/01/2011 7:18:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: FR_addict

Birth certificate update so Soetoro could be Kenyan Obama. Soetoro went from Occidental/Indonesian to Columbia U./Kenyan for scholarship money. This is the certificate...
http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/


10 posted on 05/01/2011 7:21:43 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: jmcenanly

Barack Obama -The first made for television media creation to occupy the White House


11 posted on 05/01/2011 7:22:37 AM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: Sacajaweau
Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect a legitimate press to look into the life of the man Obama ‘wrote’ a best selling book about, a book that was a central component of the launching of Obamas political career? Even if just out of curiosity and ‘reader interest’, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect ‘journalists’ to look further into the story?
12 posted on 05/01/2011 7:24:33 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: FR_addict

Another white woman “trophy conquest” slept with a black “stud”....what else is new ????


13 posted on 05/01/2011 7:26:01 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: livius

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.


14 posted on 05/01/2011 7:28:50 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Sacajaweau
Let's suppose the real father is _______________.

Knowing his mother that could be an arduous endeavor.
Too much about Obama and his family is immoral and repulsive.

15 posted on 05/01/2011 7:30:26 AM PDT by jla
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To: FormerACLUmember

Here Hussein Obama lies about his dad serving it WWII.
Will the lies never cease?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv4jnlkxOaw


16 posted on 05/01/2011 7:34:07 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: FR_addict

It’s possible Ann never told him of the child. In his “autobiography”, Dreams, Obama says he was surprised to read a news account of his father’s leaving Hawaii for Harvard where he never mentioned Ann or the child . It is clear that Obama’s putative parents never did live togeher.


17 posted on 05/01/2011 7:34:38 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: FormerACLUmember

Here Hussein Obama lies about his dad serving it WWII.
Will the lies never cease?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv4jnlkxOaw

Obama’s father served in WW II? Really?

Of all the things I’ve seen or heard about Obama on the Internet , NONE has hit me like this one!!! How can we not believe some of the charges about citizenship, religion, etc. , after hearing what he says on this?

Obama said his father served in WW II? Barack’s father served in WW II?? He said so in a speech.

Is he a compulsive liar? Were there no reporters who checked or double checked these statements and called the party on this? They did for everyone else. Why not him?
Like it or not, here are the TRUE facts:

Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (Obama’s father)

Born : 4/4/36 Died : 11/24/82 at the age of 46 ... He was 5 years old when WW 2 started, and less than 9.5 years old when it ended.

Lolo Soetoro (Obama’s step father)

Born : 1935 Died : 3/2/87 at the age of 52 .... He was 6 years old when WW 2 started, and 10 years old when it ended.

He must have been the youngest Veteran in the war.
And the media doesn’t say anything.

If you doubt it, Google both of these guys.

It appears this guy doesn’t know how to tell the truth — or he doesn’t care about telling the truth! — or perhaps he doesn’t know when he isn’t telling the truth (which is also a very scary angle on it).

Talk about STOLEN HONOR!!!

The CNN clip of Obama is surprising... I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that this lie wasn’t uncovered, questioned and debated before the Nov. 2008 election. Oh well. He must have just “forgotten” the facts, again. Or perhaps he really doesn’t even know the difference between truth and fabrication?

This should be sent to every Veterans group in the USA!! STOLEN HONOR!!!!

I’m insulted......are YOU?


18 posted on 05/01/2011 7:38:12 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: FR_addict

As sleazy as Senior was, even he would be ashamed to list that smarmy, stupid, and completely devoid of IQ loser that claims to be his son.


19 posted on 05/01/2011 7:49:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Mr. Wright

!!!!! I agree with you! Just WTH!? I’d never seen this YouTube before and it is HORRIFYING! His father served in WWII?? Why isn’t this being screamed from the rafters?


20 posted on 05/01/2011 7:51:49 AM PDT by battletank
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To: FR_addict

All elected officials should have to fill out an I-9 and provide appropriate documentation, just like anyone else starting a new job.

After all - they are in fact taking a job working for we, the people.

Why should the legal requirements to hire on as a garbage man or burger flipper be more stringent and demanding than qualifying to work as a senator, a congressman or the president of the USA?


21 posted on 05/01/2011 7:54:34 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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To: FR_addict; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; ...
I think I've figured out what was so embarrassing that team obama has spent years and millions (not to mention risking serious jail time for all the clumsy forgeries) to avoid releasing his true birth certificate.

His real father actually is an American.

How mortifying is that?

22 posted on 05/01/2011 7:58:01 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 829 of our national holiday from reality. - What 3 AM phone call?)
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To: jmcenanly

Amazing isn’t it


23 posted on 05/01/2011 7:58:01 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
The key words in your query are "legitimate press."

As members of the press, they have rights and privileges ordinary folks don't have, like press passes, access to public figures, etc.

I maintain that in conjunction with these privileges, there are duties and responsibilities. The press is bound NOT to abuse them.

But they have abused them. They are clearly involved in the monstrous cover-up of fraud on the part of Obama and his political supporters.

They abuse those of us ordinary citizens who have legitimate questions about our government officials; they call us kooks, the lunatic fringe, extreme, etc.

Yet is is their job to investigate the Administration, not ours.

I say storm and surround offices and headquarters of press officials and let them know that "we ain't gonna take it any more."

24 posted on 05/01/2011 8:05:40 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: null and void

Mortifying for both him and US!!! That would make him a natural born citizen!!


25 posted on 05/01/2011 8:06:26 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: null and void

Stanley Armour Dunham was a WWII Vet.


26 posted on 05/01/2011 8:10:58 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: FR_addict
2 thoughts

1) if the economy keeps getting worse his own kids may claim to not know him.

2) I’m not really worried now about if he was born in a backward 3rd world country like Kenya (does anyone really think the liberal court system would make him step down?), I’m worried about him transforming America into a backward 3rd world country like Kenya.

27 posted on 05/01/2011 8:11:42 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a blessing to live in the Ozarks.)
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To: Mr. Wright

He probably meant his grandfather (I believe he “explained” this at some later point). But of course, maybe his “grandfather” was really his father, and we should actually be looking for some young, black female friend of Frank Marshall Davis for his mother...gads, this guy is confusing!


28 posted on 05/01/2011 8:12:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: biggredd1

That is the first time I have seen that birth certificate image. Where did that come from? Has it been posted and discussed here before? Is it real? And interesting that if you click on “read more” at the link, the article has been taken down.


29 posted on 05/01/2011 8:13:30 AM PDT by ponygirl
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To: FR_addict

This whole issue is more about lies and the question of just WHO IS THIS MAN than even about whether or not he passes the natural born citizen issue to me.

NOBODY knows his history. We have what? a book that HE supposedly wrote? NO transcripts. NO official PROPER documents.

I have mine. All my family and friends have theirs. My kids have theirs.

Why is THIS particular president exempted? -because he’s half BLACK?!? And that is THEIR argument, not mine.


30 posted on 05/01/2011 8:23:07 AM PDT by J40000
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To: ponygirl
“That is the first time I have seen that birth certificate image.”

Let's just say when you think of forged signatures,"UkL Lee" will have a new meaning. /s

31 posted on 05/01/2011 8:24:13 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: livius

I have never seen an old family photo of a PREGNANT Stanley Ann Dunham.


32 posted on 05/01/2011 8:27:11 AM PDT by Raster Man
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To: Mr. Wright
He probably meant GRANDfather. He misspoke. His father wasn't old enough. Wrong generation for pete’s sake. Move along, nothing to see here.
33 posted on 05/01/2011 8:27:29 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: the Real fifi
"It’s possible Ann never told him of the child."

The problem with that theory is he sent pictures of Ann and her baby to his wife, Kezia. Fast forward. Sr. has a car accident; Kezia goes to the hospital to see him. Lo and behold, there's a white woman with him. Sr. tells Kezia that is married to Ruth (a wealty Bostonian), and they have two sons. Quote, "I have a wife and two children". No further mentions of Ann or her child. This article is from January 2008. <"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506338/Barack-Obamas-stepmother-living-Bracknell-reveals-close-bond---mother.html">

34 posted on 05/01/2011 8:33:04 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: FR_addict

But if Obama Senior was not Obama’s father, then the argument that his father was Kenyan and therefore he is ineglible is useless.


35 posted on 05/01/2011 8:34:11 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FR_addict

Obama, the elder, clearly was a self-serving man— his son, a lot of women, and the mother of his child be daXXed.

I am not surprised.


36 posted on 05/01/2011 8:35:18 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Raster Man
I have never seen an old family photo of a PREGNANT Stanley Ann Dunham.

There are some nudie pix of the tramp floating around though.

37 posted on 05/01/2011 8:36:04 AM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: FR_addict

Are you the heather smather’s I know? Are you from AZ?


38 posted on 05/01/2011 8:36:59 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why are you posting images of RACIST families, without a single person of color in it???? I’m turning you in to the mod!! /sarc


39 posted on 05/01/2011 8:39:38 AM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: livius
I think he looks like his white grandfather. So I figure, he's evidently related to the Dunhams somehow, but that's all I know.

Obama Sr. may not be his father. He and Ann may have come up with that story so that he could stay in the USA.

They evidently never lived together and she left Hawaii right after the birth of Obama.

I think Frank Marshall Davis is a possibility. That would make him a citizen, but also a perpetrator of a big scam.

If you look in Obama Senior’s immigration file, the Wood memo has the same date as the date on Obama Sr.s extension of time request, August 31, 1961. Assuming the mail wasn't delivered to a government office on the same day it would have been mailed, then maybe Obama Sr. may have gone in person to request the extension. It looks like he had overstayed by a few weeks already. So a face to face is possible. But you would think if this Wood guy had interviewed Obama, he would have told him to list his child on the form. Doesn't William Wood have the wrong school listed for Ann? Doesn't look like he did his homework - no birth certificate or marriage license.

Anyone know if Wood worked for the immigration office in Hawaii?

40 posted on 05/01/2011 8:41:17 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: jmcenanly
Funniest thing about Mayflower descendants, about half of them are descended from a little girl who didn't go on the ship. Her father supposedly did though.

The problem is in the father's relationship to the daughter. It's more like he was the guy who officiated over her parent's marriage ~ and not her father at all ~ Hmm!

So, certify that someone is a Mayflower descendant ~ well, whatever.

41 posted on 05/01/2011 8:44:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CharlesWayneCT
But if Obama Senior was not Obama’s father, then the argument that his father was Kenyan and therefore he is ineglible is useless.

Not useless. This must be hammered constantly to checkmate him into a corner. Noone knows who this man really is and the release of Sr's documents will push the pawn forward as he retreats until he has no way out but to resign and hopefully, be prosecuted.

42 posted on 05/01/2011 8:45:36 AM PDT by this is my country
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To: FR_addict

Maybe he didn’t list BHO because he knew he wasn’t the Father.


43 posted on 05/01/2011 8:46:52 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Mr. Wright

Obama’s grandfather, Stanley Dunham, did serve in WWII.


44 posted on 05/01/2011 8:47:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: eCSMaster

Or the economic equivalent, which is to avoid contributing in any way to their revenue stream.


45 posted on 05/01/2011 8:48:08 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Hildy
I guess I should have been clearer when I posted this thread. I'm not Heather. I used Heather's website for the immigration file to get this posted.

She evidently does live in Arizona, since it looks like she originally gave her information to the an Arizona newspaper — JSN & Independent

EXCLUSIVE: Dad’s Immigration File Offers More Evidence Of Obama’s Birthplace
JSN & Independent ^ | April 28, 2011 | Heather Smathers

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2712118/posts

Do you know anything about her that might be of interest to Freepers?

46 posted on 05/01/2011 8:49:06 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Mr. Wright

Before you get too worked up about this, it is very much yesterday’s news. Obama misspoke. He meant to refer to his grandfather (recall that he was largely raised by his grandparents), who did in fact serve in the Army during WWII.


47 posted on 05/01/2011 8:50:11 AM PDT by blau993
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To: Mr. Wright

If Stanley Armor Dunham was his father, not grandfather, then he got that right

Stanley Armor is the only maternal relative he bothered to memorialize with a grave (in Punch Bowl cemetery


48 posted on 05/01/2011 8:53:21 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: livius

bingo


49 posted on 05/01/2011 8:54:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: FR_addict

That would have been an admission. Makes me wonder if IV-D child support was ever paid to his mother or her parents.


50 posted on 05/01/2011 8:54:30 AM PDT by tumblindice (`Dead-beat Dad Beat Dead!' More at 11)
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