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PROMISE! My Last Palin Post Ever (Says if Erik Erickson is over you, you're done! LOL)
The Manteca Bulletin ^ | September 30, 2011 | Anthony Cheeks

Posted on 09/30/2011 8:17:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It seems that activity in these blogs and in the letters forums certainly picked up when discussing the fortunes of the former governor of Alaska. We leftists were spared no amount of scorn and ridicule due to our criticism of Sarah Palin. Of course it was never made to clear how our criticism of Palin is any different from the vitriol directed towards Nancy Pelosi or Barbara Boxer in these same forums, but that is another topic.

I am writing this post, because today just might mark a key turning point in the political fortunes of Sarah Palin. It would seem that we folks on the left are no longer the only ones who are starting to grow a tad weary of her.

Redstate.com is a conservative, even borderline hard-core right wing web site. The proprietor is a man named Erick Erickson who today expressed his own frustration with Palin's ongoing will-she or won't-she run saga that makes Hamlet look downright decisive. But the point is that he did not do it with straight-ahead political commentary, he used the kind of mocking ridicule he usually reserves for liberals.

When the head honcho of a leading conservative website is openly mocking you, perhaps your 4 years and 15 minutes of fame is almost over? Anyway, that's my last word on the former governor. If right wing websites are making fun of her, there is nothing else for us leftists to say, except that once again Mark Twain was proven right when he said, "it is the radical who creates the ideas, then when those ideas are worn out, the conservative adopts them".

So to all of you die hard Palin fans out there, it is no longer just us leftists for whom Palin is more annoying than anything else. Take a look and see what at least one fellow conservative has to say about Palin. Also note how he refers to her supporters as a "cult".

We leftists should now just shut up about Palin. Conservatives have adopted yet another one of our ideas. I know I am breaking my own rule about citing opinion blogs as sources. But when my point is that a specific opinion is no longer exclusive to the left, it somehow seems appropriate.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/09/30/breaking-news-palin-supporters-claim-she-never-said-it-or-meant-it-or-something/

BREAKING NEWS: PALIN SUPPORTERS CLAIM SHE NEVER SAID IT OR MEANT IT OR SOMETHING

There is movement within the cult. They are mad as hell at us for pointing out Governor Palin set this as her own drop dead date.


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When did RedState become a "leading" conservative website?
1 posted on 09/30/2011 8:17:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 09/30/2011 8:19:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Erick Erickson is a first-class jerk ... always has been one.
3 posted on 09/30/2011 8:21:51 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
RedState has been supporting Perry. This liberal blogger is right about the bizarre fascination with a reality tv star.
4 posted on 09/30/2011 8:22:10 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Patrick1
This liberal blogger is right about the bizarre fascination with a reality tv star.

I was kind of wondering about your bizarre fascination.

5 posted on 09/30/2011 8:24:24 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hussein’s lapdogs are a CULT. Sarah’s fans may be die hards, but they’re not a cult. Sarah’s candidates are WINNING...she is CREATING WINNERS in society. Hussein is creating dependents and leeches.

The cult is definitely in the realm of Hussein, not dear Sarah.


6 posted on 09/30/2011 8:25:08 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s weird because the other night on Judge Napolitano on FOX she said there would be no announcement today.

Maybe Erick’s paymasters don’t fork over enough cash to pay for cable?


7 posted on 09/30/2011 8:25:30 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Erik Erickson got busted as a BIG TIME Perry supporter. It is all over twitter. Dismiss the a-hole.
8 posted on 09/30/2011 8:26:48 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Erick jumped the shark a long time ago - he has been attacking every conservative currently running, as well as Palin.

Makes you go, “Hmmm.”


9 posted on 09/30/2011 8:26:50 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: free me

Or maybe he’s too busy getting story ideas at Daily Kos and Democratic Underground to watch TV?


10 posted on 09/30/2011 8:28:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the mean time the same whiners continue to call for Chris Christie to run. Its not too late for him to run they tell us. His on and off again decision is not a sign of indecisiveness


11 posted on 09/30/2011 8:32:19 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Erickson’s blog has been a tad annoying lately. It’s as if a combination of Romneybots and one or two Perry supporters (or maybe they are Huntsman people) took over redstate.

I simply don’t understand what got them so worked up. Reading that blog, you’d think there is nothing going on.


12 posted on 09/30/2011 8:33:23 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Its funny that when Sarah Palin says nothing about running the RINOS and liberals are in an uproar, calling her a tease..but when Mike Huckabee and Chris Christie go back and forth between running and not running, running and not running, no one says a word


13 posted on 09/30/2011 8:33:39 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What is an Erik Erickson? And which one? Besides a swede? If I had a dime for every Erikson, Ericsson, etc... that I had watched barf outside a bar, I'd be a rich man today.

Working for a Swedish company really inures you to loudmouth drunk zipperheads.

On the upside, I can translate technical swenglish. Mostly.

/johnny

14 posted on 09/30/2011 8:34:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What absolutely fries their head is if we mention God!

So I won’t...


15 posted on 09/30/2011 8:34:45 PM PDT by One Name
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This has gotten SO STUPID and CHILDISH.

These people act like they are her masters. She’s a private individual with HER life-changing choice ahead of her. She’s not a liar or simply opportunist. So she is making money on the books about her own life or as a commentator from HER life’s experience - SO WHAT.

She knows that people can and will have to make THEIR OWN DECISIONS about moving on or donating to someone else. That’s called Life and that’s HER price SHE’d pay for the delay.

But WE ARE SO VOID OF GETTING A LIFE that our worlds will fall apart if someone doesn’t do such and such. This I say as in my heart feeling Sarah is THE antithesis to all things Obama. I respect Cain as well and both situations I pray that God will guide and lead and empower whomever HE wants to turn this country back.

It’s just amazing how selfish and childish so many are and the tantrums they are throwing.

Perfect spoiled brat girl image.


16 posted on 09/30/2011 8:34:54 PM PDT by time4good
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Funny how that works.


17 posted on 09/30/2011 8:36:20 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Patrick1

Now why don’t we talk about YOUR bizarre obsession with the ex-Governor and VP candidate( who might I remind you, had approval ratings of over 90% while governor)? There is hardly a Palin thread that you don’t pollute with your vitriol.


18 posted on 09/30/2011 8:36:28 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: justsaynomore

Was Erik the guy that went to work for CNN as a commentator? I recall back then there was talked that maybe Erik have turned traitor. This was long before any talk of Palin came along. I remember defenders of his used to say, not to fear, he’s just going there to spread our message


19 posted on 09/30/2011 8:36:54 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

redstate does not suffer fools gladly, reportedly. Who does?
If they do, for how long? Many have a shorter tolerance for foolishness than others. Confucious.

On the subject of Sarah, it seems leaders lead, rather than procrastinate over phantom musings, hint at doing battle while hiring on in places where it can be avoided. Leaders can actually make up their mind, look at a clock, a calendar, and a map, all this as opposed to chinese tea leaves. The lady has now increasingly become a caricature of herself. In every way but Palin, redstate is a conservative activist site, who is unitimidated and therefore willing to take on someone who, in their opinion, is a distraction from the mission—winning the general election.


20 posted on 09/30/2011 8:38:17 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Red State proclaimed to be a leading conservative forum, most read inside the beltway or some such shit...

Middle Earth and the “hobbits” are ready to revolt against the status quo!

Hang on for the ride “Red State”; let’s see how you spin this, mainstream prognosticators, you!


21 posted on 09/30/2011 8:39:30 PM PDT by One Name
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To: time4good

Bravo!


22 posted on 09/30/2011 8:41:14 PM PDT by fantail 1952 (They don't make 'em like Reagan any more. Now it takes a woman to do a mans job!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ans she is probably/perhaps/maybe within 15 days of announcing her run for the WH, so they are all going to look pretty foolish.

They are going to look foolish, because it`s not a matter of if she runs but when she runs, certainly within 30 days.

I like the idea of the 7th in front of 15,000 at Liberty U


23 posted on 09/30/2011 8:41:14 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fascinating how almost every single response here is an ad hominem attack on Mr. Erickson, with nary a single poster actually engaging with either the article posted, or the substance of Mr. Erickson’s own opinion.


24 posted on 09/30/2011 8:41:29 PM PDT by Oceander (Not voting for the Republican Candidate is tantamount to voting for Obama)
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To: RitaOK

Yeah, as if you were “fair and balanced” on the subject of Sarah Palin until Red State chimed in! Hahahaha!


25 posted on 09/30/2011 8:42:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: SmokingJoe

I think most of the haters of Palin on the right, hate her because she seem to suck all the oxygen out of their preferred candidate. Waah, not fair! A lot of Ron Paul supporters are like this. How could an “idiot” like Palin outdo Ron Paul “smart”


26 posted on 09/30/2011 8:42:40 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Erickson has sure come across as a silly drama-queen with this. He does indeed “sigh” a lot whenever on CNN. Oh, well. At least he’s not yet gone into the gutter the way Tucker Carlson did, with that stomach-churning Tyson story. Thanks to that, whenever I see Carlson’s face on tv, I now truly feel like puking.


27 posted on 09/30/2011 8:43:47 PM PDT by greene66
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To: RitaOK

RitaOk is criticizing Palin

**YAWN**


28 posted on 09/30/2011 8:44:35 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: ABQHispConservative
I simply don’t understand what got them so worked up. Reading that blog, you’d think there is nothing going on.

Meh, it's happening elsewhere as well. Ace has turned pretty decidedly against Palin too from what I can tell.

They just think Palin isn't being very straight forward with people. How on earth is she still undecided after 2 1/2 years? What kind of leader could Palin be if she is so indecisive she dithers over a decision like this and keeps dragging it out? And if she has been planning a run all along and this is just her brilliant strategy (as many of her supporters insist), then isn't she basically just lying about being undecided in the first place?

Palin is just alienating a lot of people who used to be supportive, or at least sympathetic, towards her. The path she has chosen is not wearing well. And if she doesn't run now (and I think it is clear she isn't going to), her bastions of strong support such as C4P are going to erupt in a fury of rage and completely melt down.

29 posted on 09/30/2011 8:44:50 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Oceander

Oh sorry. Yeah Palin never said end of September but just in case you thought she did, she told FOX news the other day that there would be no announcement today.

Yet Erick played his little game anyway.

Let us know when Erick starts the countdown to Christie’s announcement , should be fun!


30 posted on 09/30/2011 8:49:04 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: Friendofgeorge
"I like the idea of the 7th in front of 15,000 at Liberty U"

Sounds pretty good to me, but whenever, I will stand and cheer when she declines to participate in a few of those asinine, idiotic gotcha things the LSM calls debates.

Her reason could be: "I'm waiting until you clowns figure out how to ask an intelligent question."

31 posted on 09/30/2011 8:50:03 PM PDT by fantail 1952 (They don't make 'em like Reagan any more. Now it takes a woman to do a mans job!)
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To: Longbow1969

Did you ever just stop to think that maybe, just maybe she decided long ago what she was going to do with regards running for President? There is no indecisiveness here?

This is all a moot point if she announces that she is not running. But I really do believe that this is strategic in nature and part of her campaign strategy.

How can any one fault her for carrying out her own plan the way shes fit? Especially if it turns out to be a winning strategy?

It seems to me that there are many people on this site that are not even qualified to tie their own shoes let alone pick apart someones national campaign strategy.


32 posted on 09/30/2011 8:50:47 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: Longbow1969

RED STATE update:

PALIN 52.6%

CAIN 20.6%

PAUL 10.4%

PERRY 7.3%

ROMNEY 2.4%

GINGRICH 2.0%

BACHMANN 1.2%


33 posted on 09/30/2011 8:52:00 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: upsdriver; Patrick1
"I was kind of wondering about your bizarre fascination."

I've been around FR for a long time. I've never seen anything like this.

Anyone who dares criticize Palin (and I am a big supporter of hers) is derided as an idiot or a commie. Especially on the issue of "will she or won't she".

She's 100% right on the core issues, and the best retail politician of the 21st century so far, but her lack of resolution on the matter of a political race is damaging to her.

I think far more the she or her supporters realize.

34 posted on 09/30/2011 8:53:34 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: RitaOK

Rita- you’ve shown yourself to be sensible in my short tenure here.

Do you not remember the early days after the 2008 election when everyone save SP was licking their wounds. When they did stick their heads up like prarie dogs they stuck their fingers in the air to see where the wind blew?

SP has fought, fought, regrouped and fought again.

You may not care for her tactics, but the British didn’t care much for Ethan Allen, or Francis Marion, either...


35 posted on 09/30/2011 9:05:39 PM PDT by One Name
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To: Oceander
Fascinating how almost every single response here is an ad hominem attack on Mr. Erickson, with nary a single poster actually engaging with either the article posted, or the substance of Mr. Erickson’s own opinion.

K. The substance of Mr. Erickson's opinion is that Mrs Palin is toasty with conservatives.

I am a conservative.

She's ok in my book.

Ergo, he's wrong. At least as far as this conservative (and many others) go.

As for the ad hominem.... Yep. I also point fingers and laugh at Yon Yohansen when a get a chance. Any of the millions of them.

Eric/Erik Ericsson/Erikson/Erickson... take your pick on spelling it. It's like mohamet/mohamed/etc....

There are millions of 'em.

Hit dog barks.

I never promised to be polite or logical. But I get a vote anyway.

I do hope Romney goes down in primary history for weakest turnout ever.

/johnny

36 posted on 09/30/2011 9:07:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: time4good

I agree 100 percent with you. Its really getting stupid how some people are reacting. OMG she hasn’t announced yet!! How about she will announce when she damn well feels like it! Its not like she is putting a gun to anyone’s head and forcing them to only vote for her. If some people don’t like it, go vote for someone else..geez..and the idiocy from these RINOS is really laughable. They hate her, yet they want her to announce already, yeah and I know why too, if she runs they will have more of a reason to non-stop attack her. That is what they want. Its HER life, HER choice. She runs her life the way she pleases, no one is going to tell her what to do


37 posted on 09/30/2011 9:08:48 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Mariner
She's 100% right on the core issues, and the best retail politician of the 21st century so far, but her lack of resolution on the matter of a political race is damaging to her.

Mariner, you've surely read the reasoning of many on this forum, that Palin is executing a well planned strategy with regard to the timing of her announcement. She doesn't lack resolution. She's simply unwilling to freely give away the element of surprise that she currently holds over every presumptive opponent (including the state-run media).

As someone with near 100% name recognition and broad grass roots support, there was nothing whatsoever to gain by her being involved in the early stages of the primary. She's saved hers and her supporters' time, energy, and campaign dollars during her 'hold out' period.

One can argue that we're now well past the 'early stage', and that it's time for her to step forward if she's going to do so. I tend to agree with that, but I'm an impatient Palin supporter, so...

Frankly, I trust her instincts on this. She's proven to have an above average level of savvy where it comes to politics, during her twenty year public service career. I'm only hoping that she steps in before the first scheduled primary filing date.

38 posted on 09/30/2011 9:12:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Erick Erickson once showed an awareness of the spiritual realm in his sensibilities.

He has apparently become benumbed by the influence of those he once attempted to persuade...

It’s a danger of perceived power and influence.

I’ve been deceived before-it’s insidious but recognizeable, and treatable.


39 posted on 09/30/2011 9:16:53 PM PDT by One Name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Erickson has his panties in a bunch because his September 2011 Poll shows:

Palin - 52%

Cain - 21%

Perry - 7%


40 posted on 09/30/2011 9:17:29 PM PDT by MN_Mike (Governor Sarah Palin for the win! Piper Palin for President 2036 (Biden: Gird YOUR loins))
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To: RitaOK

I’ll repost this from another thread and address it you you Rita...

Why is Free Republic overrun with liberals calling themselves conservatives, mouthing Liberal talking points, regurgitating liberal smears, acting like spoiled children and attacking a potential candidate that embodies the principles of Free Republic, the TEA Party and conservatism better than any ANNOUNCED candidate out there?

And isn’t it time we publicly and OFTEN call them on it? This crap really needs to stop. Posters in the blogsphere have become no different than the MSM it/they claimed to hate. Look at all the little Dan Rather and Keith Olberman wannabees populating these threads and tell me I’m wrong.


41 posted on 09/30/2011 9:18:33 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Windflier

But I think she is not running.


42 posted on 09/30/2011 9:18:38 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: One Name

Well said.


43 posted on 09/30/2011 9:18:41 PM PDT by namvolunteer (We draw the Congressional districts this time)
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To: bwc2221
I used to lurk at RedState. There were some *very* interesting discussions between a PDS loon named achance and another guy named Vassar Bushmills.

achance was apparently connected politically in Alaska and came at Palin from an Alaska insider's perspective.

Vassar Bushmills -- well, let's say I respect him as much as the top half-dozen posters at FR. (Not to step on anyone's toes, I have a private list of who's credible & worth following regardless of topic.)

achance bit the dust first; but then Vassar and a couple of other posters were writing detailed strategy memos for conservatives: and then around the beginning of 2011 a bunch of then got banned. My memory is admittedly hazy, but it seems the management of the site didn't like the group becoming a law unto themselves and monopolizing the "recommended by" feature: despite the fact that in my judgement they were far better than the founder of the site.

I wish someone would either get in touch with Vassar and invite him here (I was an "almost never" poster there and didn't have his contact information), as well as ColdWarrior, with his Precinct Committeman project.

The rest of the site has fallen off badly in quality since the purge.

Cheers!

44 posted on 09/30/2011 9:20:16 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

This is good stuff.

The sycophants collapsing at Obama rallies in ‘08 are not much different from those hanging upon every latest Tweet from Sarah today. Each have welded themselves to a personality as opposed to a direction. Both are fools and ultimately losers.

Erickson jumps at Palin? Good. They all need to be called at some point. She should provide some answers too if she is what she has portrayed herself to be. Those answers should be honest and clear.

DO NOT BE SO INVESTED IN A PERSONALITY THAT YOU FORGET TO QUESTION THEIR REASONS!


45 posted on 09/30/2011 9:20:51 PM PDT by JoenTX (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: One Name
My impression of what RedState has turned into can be gleaned from The Fellowship of the Ring if it comes to that:

'He is plotting to become a Power. He has a mind of metal and wheels; and he does not care for growing things, as far as they serve him for the moment.'

Cheers!

46 posted on 09/30/2011 9:23:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mariner

I don’t understand why everyone is in such a hurry for Palin to announce. What difference does it make when? People worry about the strangest things.


47 posted on 09/30/2011 9:24:12 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: JoenTX

Did it ever occur to you that we support her BECAUSE we agree with her and her positions, not because we worship hatt her altar??

And I speak such blasphemy as the jokingly self professed ‘Chief Druid” of the Cult of Palin.

Just perhaps?


48 posted on 09/30/2011 9:24:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We leftists should now just shut up about Palin.

Oh yes, please. The sooner the better.

49 posted on 09/30/2011 9:25:10 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Norm Lenhart
Well said.

I'm too tired right now but if I wake up refreshed, I'm going to write a vanity on what Palin is up to and the big picture of the election and the GOP field.

Cheers!

50 posted on 09/30/2011 9:26:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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