Posted on 10/30/2011 2:42:16 PM PDT by Kevmo
BREAKTHROUGH POWER TEST A SUCCESS, BUT A.P. SITS ON IT
by Joe Shea
AR Correspondent
Bradenton, Fla .
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BRADENTON, Fla., Oct. 30, 2011 -- If you went to Google tonight and searched for the terms "E Cat Rossi Associated Press" you'd get 1,430,000 results from blogs, Web sites and magazines like Wired.com (UK edition). That number will grow .
Most are about how an Associated Press reporter attended the demonstration of a device - as the exclusive media person present during the whole test - that proceeded to generate 475,000 watts of power continuously for five hours with no input and just its secret Low Energy Nuclear Reaction device - a cold fusion reactor, in plain terms - providing power for the people who need it most - this world's billions of poor and hungry human beings.. AP Science writer Peter Svensson with Peswiki founder Sterling Allen at the workshops of Italian inventor and electrical engineer Andrea Rossi in Bologna, Italy. They were at Friday's final demonstration of a 1Mw cold fusion reactor that generated 470Kw of energy without any power input. Svensson had exclusive access during the test. The AP is sitting on the story, Joe Shea suspects. Photo: Sterling Allan/Peswiki There is substantial skepticism about Rossi and the reactor, and one critic has noted the inventor has had several brushes with the law over get-rich-quick schemes, the latest in the '90s, but always got short sentences and never went to jail. He would not be the first important inventor with an arrest record .
At the demonstration on this past Friday, Oct. 28, there was a large generator outside his workshop with cables running into the room where the demonstration was conducted. Rossi has explained to Pewwiki founder Sterling Allan that it was "absolutely cold" in the workshop and the generator was needed for heat in the fairly large space (the E Cat produces only steam usable for a turbine). Most of the videos of the demonstration show Rossi in a thin blue dress shirt, and one person present told me tonight it was "quite chilly" at the event. Most people are wearing jackets or sweaters inside, so that seems a plausible explanation. The A.P. has not yet reported anything, so we remain at least partly in the dark. In the video at left, below, sound of the generator is heard throughout, while the E Cat actually operates in complete silence. Touching it, I'm told, once can feel something bubblinside - apparently the water that makes the steam that is measured as output. The Event: Rossi E Cat Demo
Live Demo of 1Mw Cold Fusion Reactor
As for the crimes, I confess that I have been convicted of far worse and have gone to county jail once, at 16. At the same time, I've been on Page 1 in the Reader's Digest (March 1968), was invited to the White House to see the President, took the Brazilian Ambasador to dinner, was on the Hollywood LAPD Community-Police Advisory Board and also won a landmark Supreme Court First Amendment case, Shea v. Reno; I go to church every Sunday and try very hard to be a good person .
Under the circumstances that have prevailed in Rossi's life, I can see how desperation might drive a brilliant man to finagle for wealth in ways the courts always forgave. They forgave me for breaking into a cigarette machine, too, and Gov. Henry Bellmon pardoned me when I was 19. With 30 others, I invented serious journalism on the Internet, which is no small thing, when we began the American Reporter in 1995. This man, identified as Domenico Fioravanti, acted on behalf of the buyer in the transaction that purchased the 1Mw E Cat reactor for an unknown price and trucked it away. An Olympic gold medalist shares the same name. A printed signature on the transaction document was crossed out but still partly visible. It seemed to spell the abbreviation for "Colonel." Photo: Matt Lewans/NyTeknik Perhaps, like me, Rossi is a different man today. His scientific colleagues and supporters are legion, and they seem to think so. There have been no entries for Rossi in the police blotter since 1997, 14 years ago, according to his major critic, who admits he is paid for his work but will not say who pays. No one pays for our work except Google AdSense, the Benson County Farmer's News and the Progressive Populist .
But I suspect the world will wait a long time for the A.P. story. It appears, at least, that we've all been cheated of progress once again. The test was for a customer - his first name was "Colonel" - who immediately hooked up the 20-ft container it was placed in and drove it away. It is the A.P., after all, with its thousands of news outlets around the globe, which can really tell the world what has happened .
Ironically, now just a day later, 1.7 million people are without power in the blizzard hitting the Northeast, the New York Times reports. It has no story on the Rossi device as a home heater because the AP didn't write one yet. After you purchase it, the Rossi device, which is intended for homes and factories, will supply electricity for free forever. The Internet gave the U.S. economy a helluva jolt, but the E Cat would also keep 1.7 million people - an awful lot of broke families and hungry children among them - from shivering through this long cold night .
The technology has been vetted by people as diverse as scientists of U.S. Navy space and warfare division, NASA Chief Scientist Dennis Bushnell, Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson, the chairman of the energy committee of the Swedish Royal Academy of Sciences - who helps name the Nobel Prize winner in several sciences - and even the head of the Swedish Skeptics Society, there has not been a peep out of the A.P. since .
This reporter, in fact, was warned by someone named Jerome on its national desk in the early hours of Saturday morning not to be too quick to believe an A.P. Reporter was there - although his name, Peter Svensson, and picture with other journalists appears on some of those sites tonight - and I was criticized for "driving A.P. coverage" of the event .
Since the E Cat is just as important as the invention of the radio, the Internet, the light bulb and the atom bomb, and since - as DOE spokesman Sean Murphy told reporters in 2009 about the device's fundamental element, hydrogen - so it can completely replace oil by 2050, this reporter thought he was doing the A.P. a favor when he called up their national desk and told them about it just 30 hours or so before the test .
Even the fact that the test was performed for an unidentified customer whose representative, a man named Domenico Fioravanti, after the demonstration immediately bought and paid for it (for an undisclosed sum), has not persuaded the A.P. to risk shame, scorn and the rage of oil companies to do its job and report on what it sent its science writer to see. The mysterious Colonel is not the guy who will do that .
Associated Press Science Editor Kit Frieden (kfrieden@ap.org) didn't answer her phone when we called, but I'll will bet you dollars to donuts 1,500 calls from A.P. members would not get her to budge .
"There are no conspiracies," an A.P. editor in London told me. We sure wonder. The reporter himself has blamed the lack of press on the scientist, Rossi, who is apparently a difficult guy to get along with. Remember this, inventors: cultivate a winning personality before you save the world with your invention, or it will die on the vine for lack of attention .
Murphy was not talking about cold fusion, then, just about hydrogen and how it will erode the trillions of dollars earned and billions in profits on which they pay they pay little or no tax .
The device that can do that, scientists and science writers and many more believe, is the cold fusion marvel Italian electrical engineer Andrea Rossi demonstrated all day long on Friday, before about 30 of them. When he immediately sold it, the University of Bologna in Italy, one of the oldest universities in the world, became the site of one of the greatest inventions in world history .
Even though it was my 3 a.m. call that got the A.P. writer sent to the demonstration, I had no stake other than deep interest in any part of it. My stake is humanity's stake: freedom from oil and all the loss, the wars and the terror it creates .
Please do your part to make certain the world finds out.
“I have no desire to answer posts to you, only to have them removed.”
Go start your own blog somewhere else if you do not like FR’s forum format; you post, we comment. Blogging every blog entry from Rossi’s blog does not a Free Republic make. He is insignificant to our nation and our politics. This is the wrong forum to try to continue to tout Rossi. If he makes a significant scientific finding that impacts this nation, fine, but until then you are just blog pimping for Rossi.
It’s enough to make an inventor want to start his own peer-reviewed journal, I tellya.
There’s a reason why the first scientific article about the Wright brothers appeared in a beekeeping journal rather than Scientific American. American reporters are lemmings.
The whole "steam quality" issue is a gigantic red herring. There WAS no "steam quality issue". The instrumentation used to determine steam quality was quite capable of doing so, and the critics that are saying it isn't are simply wrong. And then there was the "no-steam" experiment, which should have settled the issue......for some reason, THAT experiment is simply ignored.
Ah, I think I see the disconnect. You keep trying to insert into the discussion that Rossi is just one of the legitimate LENR researchers. He isn’t.
***Oh yes he is. I was posting LENR articles before he arrived on the scene. It is the Rossi detractors who are trying to insert that he is NOT one of a long line of legitimate LENR researchers.
Some squawkish FReepers only know LENR from what they’ve heard through the lens of Rossi’s developments. They are too lazy to come up to speed on the facts. Simple facts, like those 14,700 replications.
Rossi claims the ability to catalyze the Ni-H LENR process, which dates back to the Pons-Fleischmann days. That same effect which has been replicated more than 14,700 times.
The reporter who said that was simply wrong. The sole purpose of the genset was to provide power to the E-Cat unit, mostly to power that startup heaters in the individual E-cats. It had nothing to do with "heating the room".
"Why not go to a room heater? Other than the fact it would make a small building burn down from the heat. A half a megawatt of power is a Whole lot of heat. Now you can't just generate a half a megawatt and ignore it, you HAVE to use it or you can't measure it. Normally you would just place a resistive load on it to dispel it as... heat. Yet the room is still cold!"
The E-cat container, genset, and all supporting apparatus was OUTDOORS. The heat was dispelled into the air by means of (I think three) very large heat exchangers, which you can see if you watch the videos. You do NOT want any part of that rig inside the building for safety reasons.
Why don't you post your source for those replications?
I was posting LENR threads before Rossi showed up. 90% of these naysayers have only been around since Rossi. I do not necessarily tout Rossi, I tout LENR. Not that I expect any of the usual suspects to be able to distinguish the difference.
If he makes a significant scientific finding that impacts this nation, fine, but until then you are just blog pimping for Rossi
***That is one, beautiful FReeping statement. /s So if Rossi turns out to be right, it was okay for all these squawkers to do their business on these threads because they didn’t know he was right and if Rossi turns out to be wrong it was okay for all these squawkers to do their business on these threads and I was supposedly blog pimping.
I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. You are not worth the keystrokes and removed posts.
I suggest you look at the actual reports issued from the various demos. Checking the videos also helps. There is a lot of info available that is basically being "blockaded by FUD" from a community of knee-jerk naysayers. I suggest starting at the LENR/CANR website. Pay particular attention to the third experiment (no-steam, high flow, fifteen hours test).
Listen, Rossi hasn’t produced sh*t for proof. You have done nothing but clutter FR with one useless thread about nothing after another, insulted FReepers with far greater education and experience than you could possibly ever hope to have about the subject, all the while posting about Rossi this and Rossi that, all of which has said exactly nothing. There has been nothing buy hype from Rossi and you. No additional facts, no additional proof, no additional anything. Nothing. You hang on to his every breath as though it is the most important subject on the planet and you get pissed when we are not a stupid, ignorant, or gullible as you and follow along.
Get a life.
Rossi said 10 months ago that he was going to demo a 1MW LENR steam plant on October 28, for a customer who would buy it if satisfied. He did that, at least to the point of a satisfied customer.
If you do not like my threads, DON’T READ THEM. I was posting LENR threads before Rossi came along.
And you are right, I have run across quite a few FReepers with more education than me and I am amazed at how many of them couldn’t pass a freshman level critical thinking class. amazed.
If Rossi has a legitimate process, then this subject IS very important.
So, then, since I’ll be posting more LENR threads I guess it is just gonna suck to be you until you figure out where the ‘ignore’ button on your keyboard is.
You really are an idiot. We’ll just keep posting to your silly threads. You can just keep having hissy fits about that. You post, we reply. Tough noogies if you don’t like it. We’re not going to let you impugn the reputation of FReepers by not responding to your crazy threads of fraud. The last thing I want is to have someone say FReepers are gullible and believed Rossi scam. We don’t. You do.
The claimed nickel/hydrogen/secret catalyst or the Pons-Fleischman process. Or are you combining the two?
Where does that 14,700 figure come from?
I don’t have a problem with you ... ahh, FRiendly FlyingRat Freepers... posting on ‘my’ threads. I have a problem with you guys using logical fallacies, posting & running,not coming up to speed on facts, basic squawking, normal troll techniques, and then crying to the mods over innocuous comments.
For instance: You say that I am an idiot. This is a personal attack. Why is it that this post remains but one that says someone is a seagull is removed?
Why is it that you guys are SO CONVINCED it is a scam but contribute NOTHING to the knowledge base for revealing it as a scam?
How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real (or Fake)
LENR.QUMBO.com ^ | April 6, 2011 | Alan Fletcher
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:52:15 PM by Kevmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2730401/posts
It is because you have a different agenda other than what you claim. The mods fell for the ruse.
Let’s see. Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem or something. I’ll try again.
Rossi claims the ability to catalyze the Ni-H LENR process, which dates back to the Pons-Fleischmann days. That same effect which has been replicated more than 14,700 times.
You just described Rossi and yourself. No facts, just name calling and diversions.
You just keep posting about your boy Rossi, the felon with a history of fraud and how this is not fraud this time. Yeah, right. Even his patent was rejected for not being of a sound scientific and logical basis.
We contributed plenty as to how this is a scam. Unfortunately for you, you lack even a basic scientific knowledge, even of the junior high school kind.
You lack business knowledge to understand product development and how he is violating every sound principle of business but follows the very pattern of a scam.
Your gullibility has lead you to be hostile to such reasoning and experience. Instead, you are just cock sure this is not a scam even though you have not one single solitary fact yo back you up. Well, you are exactly the type of feeble minded person he neeeds to make money; someone with an emotion desire but without any non-emotional reasoning. Someone that he could give any excuse to and get his way.
So, there are two of us with reading comprehension problems? Let me try it another way, Kevmo:
Please cite your source for the 14,700 replications of cold fusion you mentioned twice in recent posts.
Also, you never explained whose posts you wanted removed. You accused me of failure to comprehend your posts. Did you really mean to say you want my posts removed? If not, what did you mean?
It was a simple question. Why not just say if you’re going to say anything instead of
“Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem or something”?
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