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Walmart ruining holidays for workers
vanity | November 13, 2011 | Linda Martine

Posted on 11/13/2011 11:06:23 AM PST by eccentric

Around the country, night workers at Walmart stores are being told to come in five hours early ON Thanksgiving. After having work until 7am that morning, they must get whatever sleep they can and then reutrn to work at 5pm for a 12 hour shift. How much time does this leave for them to spend the holiday with their family?

Walmart wants to call their employees associates. No, they are just workers.


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To: southern rock
I guess Wall-Mart employees dpnt deserve Thanksgiving according to most people here.

"Deserve Thanksgiving?" Do they deserve a pony, too?

How about a paycheck for work performed?

301 posted on 11/13/2011 2:09:54 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: dragnet2

I’m not saying that Walmart cares about customers per se, but if it wants to make money, it’s gotta have the requisite goods on the shelf.

If it’s selling twice what it usually does on a particular day, it’s gotta have the staff to do that.


302 posted on 11/13/2011 2:10:50 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: mardi59
Just how, by a few posts do you know how I interact with my customers?
I have no clue OTHER than your bitter, angry, complaining posts.
I treat them with the same respect I would expect when checking out. It is not the customers fault they are unhappy, it’s the companys.
Walmart makes their customers UNHAPPY? Wow, what power!
I have gotten to know many of the customers that come to my lane and they are great people and when they complain it makes me feel bad because there is nothing I can do. I enjoy their company. Don’t judge my work ethic or my performance unless you have seen how I do my job. That is unfair.
You need to find a new line of work. You seem incapable of making a difference at Walmart. Have you tried getting another job? One with better benefits, higher wages, and happier customers?
303 posted on 11/13/2011 2:10:58 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: narses
Anyone ever tell ya there are now *more* unionized Government employees in the U.S. than in the private sector?

How many "unionized Government employees" would anyone find in the private sector?

Gezzz...

Not the point slick. Ya keep babbling about unions when China Mart is not even unionized. The comment was made because there are now more Government unionized employees than in the private sector, yet not a peep about that from you...

304 posted on 11/13/2011 2:13:20 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: southern rock
I guess Wall-Mart employees dpnt deserve Thanksgiving according to most people here. For the record, I agree with you.

People who accept employment opportunities should know full well what their employer's requirements are....In the mega-retail business, It's a given that you will most likely be required to work on the major holidays where most of their retail sales are generated..

305 posted on 11/13/2011 2:13:57 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Mears; netmilsmom
She has since found a good job but it was very discouraging for her ...
Because she found a job? Did she get her CPA? There is a big demand for decent CPA's right now.
306 posted on 11/13/2011 2:14:08 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: Popman

Everything the NLRB is doing with Boeing it is doing under existing statutory authority.

A second-term Obama won’t need one Congressional vote for the NLRB to dismantle the big box retailers’ unionization defenses, nor can any Congressional vote block the NRLB as long as Republican majorities are not veto proof.


307 posted on 11/13/2011 2:14:30 PM PST by only1percent
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To: eccentric

Work for the government or a bank and then you can have all major holidays off.


308 posted on 11/13/2011 2:15:39 PM PST by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: narses

Think about your posts to me the next time you complain about your job, but I guess you never complain do you? Do you ever say a patient was rude or nasty? Do your legs and feet hurt from standing on them for hours? Do you ever get angry at a Dr for anyreason. I have been vocal on this thread because it was about Walmart. Maybe soon they will have one about how some hospitals are treating employees. Usually wage related. I will be watching for your posts.


309 posted on 11/13/2011 2:15:41 PM PST by mardi59
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To: mardi59

>>Just where did I say in any of my posts that I was different than anyone else? I didn’t.<<

Right here...

“27 registers and only 8 covered by cashiers with long lines full of angry impatient customers. I greet all with a smile and get angry retorts and cursed at because they’ve had to wait because so few registers are open. Floor associates get the same because there are so few associates to cover the floor of a Superstore. Walmart knows one cashier will do the job of four because they know noone else is hiring so whatever abuse they need to heap upon people will be accepted because we have nowhere else to go.

I have had people walk-up to me and say they feel sorry for us because they see what we are going thru. I tell them its my job and the only one I have at the moment.

I have anywhere from 180 to 460 customers a day on my egister. I take abuse from customers and continue to do my job. I have never complained when my shift is changed and I am never late to my job. Its a shame that when the truth is told all some can do is attack and call names. I just bet you would be one of the snotty ones I would smile at and tell to have a good day.”

This is posted to make you look exceptional. There are enough ‘I’ sentences to rival Barack Obama. Every one of us who work take abuse, you are no different than anyone else.


310 posted on 11/13/2011 2:16:23 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: dragnet2
Ya keep babbling about unions when China Mart is not even unionized.
Buy a clue. The attacks on FReepers included one poster who claim that Walmart will GET a union because of their "terrible" working conditions. Sorry that you failed to follow the rather simple English language thread. Good luck on that job search.
311 posted on 11/13/2011 2:16:31 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: reagan_fanatic

I think they should be GLAD they have a job and THANKFUL that Walmart hired them if things are that tough there. I have had jobs I hated and just toughed up until I was able to do something different. It is called being an adult. If you aren’t qualified for anything else you should be really greatful to have any job, and do what you can to make yourself more employable.


312 posted on 11/13/2011 2:16:36 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Jonty30
I’m not saying that Walmart cares about customers per se, but if it wants to make money, it’s gotta have the requisite goods on the shelf.

They could care less about customers. All they have to do is get cheap Communist Chinese products on the shelves, which they can mark up 10 times what it cost to produce it.

313 posted on 11/13/2011 2:18:06 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: eccentric
What do you know of Walmart’s overtime policy?
more than you.
314 posted on 11/13/2011 2:18:30 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: mardi59

Those people are doing what you should have done, leaving the company.

Instead you stay, complaining, and bringing unhappiness to your fellow employees and to the customers.

If you’re going to stay, stop complaining and pretend you’re happy about your job instead of being resigned to it.

You’ll find life is better that way.


315 posted on 11/13/2011 2:18:33 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: eccentric

I have had enough of being attacked on this thread for voicing my opinion. I thought people would like to know the truth. I didn’t know letting people know how employees are treated at walmart would cause such a hooplah. I won’t make the same mistake again I can assure you.


316 posted on 11/13/2011 2:18:37 PM PST by mardi59
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To: mardi59
Think about your posts to me the next time you complain about your job, but I guess you never complain do you?
How sad. You whine and bitch and then stay right where you are. Go get another job. Find a better employer. Start your own grocery store if you want. FREEDOM. Try it. Freedom works. Whining does not.
317 posted on 11/13/2011 2:19:11 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: Mears

All the best to her.

With a PhD I’d end up in Walmart too. I’m fifty.


318 posted on 11/13/2011 2:19:38 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: mardi59

I don’t believe you. You write like you’re a pro-union plant.


319 posted on 11/13/2011 2:19:51 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: dragnet2; Jonty30
They could care less about customers.
Right. That is how they sell. Do tell, what line of work are you in?
320 posted on 11/13/2011 2:20:15 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: narses
They "deserve" freedom. If they choose to take a paycheck instead of a secular holiday, that is called FREEDOM. They can choose to get another job. One that gives them a different schedule. They could raise the capital and start their own store and be the boss. FREEDOM. It works. Try it sometime.

I know all about freedom. Its the freedom to say that Wall Mart sucks, their Thanksgiving policy sucks, they are a degenerate company, and I would not partonize them if I had a gun to my head. Thats my freedom. Why don't you like it people exercize their freedom?

321 posted on 11/13/2011 2:21:26 PM PST by southern rock
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To: Cedar

The thing is, in retail holidays are when the most money is made- and yes it is necessary to have enough employees to sell the merchandise, that is how Walmart makes their money. So yes it is necessary. If the employees don’t think it is necessary they don’t have to work there.


322 posted on 11/13/2011 2:21:36 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: narses

Nope,didn’t want CPA after she finished,at the advice of her CPA uncle. (shrug)

She went into an entirely different field and did very well.

She was not discouraged because of the new job,she loves it,especially the work environment.


323 posted on 11/13/2011 2:21:41 PM PST by Mears (I can't take anymore of this.)
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To: mardi59
There is no overtime at Walmart

I worked there three years ago as a night stocker and got threatened with less hours if I continued to "abuse overtime" - I accumulated three minutes OT in 40 hours. When a holiday comes around, you get paid for the holiday, but then are given only 4 days work.

I did it for beer money, enjoyed giving the managers $h!t over their petty crap and bailed when they wouldn't give me time off to visit relatives. "We didn't hire you for your convenience." That was understood. I told them it was a two-way deal - W-M got an employee who was always on time and never missed a day in three years (highly unusual) . In return, there was a tacit agreement that allowed me to take off the summer months (that worked for two years - then we got a new manager).

Sayonara.

324 posted on 11/13/2011 2:22:53 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: narses

Community Organizer?


325 posted on 11/13/2011 2:23:32 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: eccentric

I think it’s great they have plenty of paying work for the non-lazy. I’ll be sure to let them know.


326 posted on 11/13/2011 2:23:50 PM PST by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9)
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To: mardi59

>>I didn’t know letting people know how employees are treated at walmart would cause such a hooplah.<<

Your perspective on how people are treated that is....


327 posted on 11/13/2011 2:24:16 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: mardi59

I dont like WalMart, because they sell cheap Chinese c**p.
However, you are not going to find much sympathy from Freepers who have spent much of their careers working over the holidays.
In the glorious 70s and early 80s- retail was able to avoid working over the holidays.
The times have changed- join the rest of us who work or have spouses that work on the holidays.


328 posted on 11/13/2011 2:24:31 PM PST by kaila
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To: mardi59
I thought people would like to know the truth.

Many of us have been pointing out the truth.

You call it being attacked.

We don't want you unhappy, we want you in another job, better suited for you.

329 posted on 11/13/2011 2:24:40 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: netmilsmom

She’s since turned fifty.

She’d go in for an interview and a 25 year old would be behind the desk. She began to recognize “the look”.

But she persisted and got a decent job.


330 posted on 11/13/2011 2:24:52 PM PST by Mears (I can't take anymore of this.)
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To: Oatka

>>Sayonara. <<

Which is exactly how one should react.
If one doesn’t like it, quit.

There are lots of people who need the job.


331 posted on 11/13/2011 2:27:50 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: mardi59; narses; dragnet2

Good post. We have overbearing posters here (Narses, Balding Eagle) that think you are a serf who should never speak up here about WalMart being dysfunctional sometimes

If you speak up here-— Well that’s whining and complaining. Meanwhile Narses is complaining as fast as he can type to JimRob and the Admin Moderator. Pot, kettle, black. Nuff said


332 posted on 11/13/2011 2:28:32 PM PST by dennisw (I heard the old man laughing. What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-- Sting)
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To: eccentric

I do my part by not shopping at places or during times when I think people should not have to work. They can do their part by getting a different job.


333 posted on 11/13/2011 2:29:37 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: southern rock
Why don't you like it people exercize their freedom?

Because they are TAKING money from Walmart, then turning around and bitching about it.

They have the right to do so, but as Walmart cutomers WE have the right to tell them to move on to something else, 'cuz we hate interacting with crabby employees.

334 posted on 11/13/2011 2:30:06 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: SumProVita

Being an SDA, if Sunday became a mandatory day of rest, there would be a good chance I’d starve, because it would be difficult to find a job that would allow me to keep the Sabbath holy.


335 posted on 11/13/2011 2:30:09 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: Mears

Good for her!!!!!!


336 posted on 11/13/2011 2:30:17 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Dairy farmers don’t get ANY days off. They have to work 365 days a year, 366 for Leap Years.

I worked with an ex-Marine who grew up on a dairy farm in the '50s. Up at 4 a.m. EVERY DAY, except one. On his birthday, he was allowed to sleep until 6 a.m. I said he must have really enjoyed those two extra hours. He said, no, he had his parents wake him up at the regular time, then spent the next two hours saying to himself, "I DON'T have to get up, I DON'T have to get up."

When he was 17, he joined the Marines, and, My God, THEY LET YOU SLEEP UNTIL 5 a.m! "All you had to do was march around with a 9 pound rifle and they paid you $50 a month!. How long has this been going on?"

Then came Tarawa.

337 posted on 11/13/2011 2:30:52 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: dennisw

See 329.


338 posted on 11/13/2011 2:32:10 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Oatka

LOL!


339 posted on 11/13/2011 2:33:07 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Because they are TAKING money from Walmart, then turning around and bitching about it.

Really? Employees TAKE money from thier employers? Silly me, I thought the EARNED it

They have the right to do so, but as Walmart cutomers WE have the right to tell them to move on to something else, 'cuz we hate interacting with crabby employees.

And Wall-Mart customers also have a right to tell Wall Mart that their Thanksgiving policy sucks

340 posted on 11/13/2011 2:34:04 PM PST by southern rock
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To: southern rock

Excellent point...Good observation.


341 posted on 11/13/2011 2:35:28 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hot Tabasco
And for the folks who shop at WalMart, they don't give a rats ass where the stuff is made just as long as it fits in their price range.....that's just the way it is homie.

This is obvious. I'm in Walmart sometimes. I see who shops there. About 10 miles from me in a ritzy neighborhood, the Walmart there has all kinds of new iron parked outside. Its shoppers are doing well
But this is besides the point. All those commie made goods and electronics on the shelves are bad for America. You put up tariffs, slash EPA regulations and do other things to bring jobs home. This means more taxpayers and less taxes you and me have to payout to those on the dole in one form or another

342 posted on 11/13/2011 2:35:48 PM PST by dennisw (I heard the old man laughing. What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-- Sting)
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To: eccentric

In that case, shut down all hospitals, airlines/airports, tell cops and firemen to take the day off as well as utility workers, etc. /s

People DO work on holidays. I did when I worked for a major airline.


343 posted on 11/13/2011 2:35:53 PM PST by proudofthesouth (Democratic Party - The party of genocide.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Thanks for the real life details. I also think your observation here is important: the average consumer is really tapped out and I just do not see holiday sales being that great ...

The fall in real wages is significant, and is increasing with inflation. It is a problem for the whole economy, and blaming those who don't earn high wages does not help.

344 posted on 11/13/2011 2:36:30 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: eccentric

In all fairness, who wants to get trampled to death by Holder’s people, Hell-bent on getting a new TV?


345 posted on 11/13/2011 2:37:19 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: southern rock

Somehow, I believe you when you point out that you don’t understand the meaning of ‘take’ as it was presented.


346 posted on 11/13/2011 2:38:08 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: dragnet2

Boy, are you a moron. Walmart has unbelievably generous profit sharing and 401k plans. All that was set up decades ago by Ms Helen, Sam Walton’s wife. You sound like a bitter, jealous union plant.


347 posted on 11/13/2011 2:38:26 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Because they are TAKING money from Walmart, then turning around and bitching about it.

Earn....earn...A little slip of the keyboard eh?

If Walmart could find zombies who didn't need to eat or rest, they fire every single human working for them in a second.

348 posted on 11/13/2011 2:38:56 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GunPkrBkr

googled navy blue shirts and got 30,900,000 hits


349 posted on 11/13/2011 2:39:39 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Balding_Eagle

Right, she should go find another job that doesn’t exist. Gonna clue you in, the job market is tighter than 20-30 years ago and wages are lower when you look what you can buy with your take home. Your mind is locked into a bygone era.

I might be as old as you but I can see what is going on in the wage slave market these days


350 posted on 11/13/2011 2:42:25 PM PST by dennisw (I heard the old man laughing. What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-- Sting)
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