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R.I.P. Christopher Hitchens
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Posted on 12/15/2011 9:12:53 PM PST by Arthurio

R.I.P. Christopher Hitchens

December 15, 2011 11:51 P.M. By Daniel Foster     Vanity Fair reports that Christopher Hitchens has passed away. Often frustrating, usually provocative, always brilliant. He added to the culture, and the conversation.

I’m sure I join many in hoping he is in for a glorious, glorious surprise.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


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To: Arthurio

Rest in peace Mr Hitchens.


51 posted on 12/15/2011 9:49:36 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: garjog

Always admired someone who was intellectually honest and not hypocritical. He had no problem criticizing people like Maher who bash Christianity but kowtow to Islam.Never quite understood his problem with Mother Theresa. Best comment once made that if Theresa were still alive she probably would have nursed him in his terminal stages.


52 posted on 12/15/2011 9:50:14 PM PST by allendale
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To: y'all

So, not to change the subject but...what killed him?


53 posted on 12/15/2011 9:50:26 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: eddie willers

So you are a universalist?


54 posted on 12/15/2011 9:50:48 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: garjog

Always admired someone who was intellectually honest and not hypocritical. He had no problem criticizing people like Maher who bash Christianity but kowtow to Islam.Never quite understood his problem with Mother Theresa. Best comment once made that if Theresa were still alive she probably would have nursed him in his terminal stages.


55 posted on 12/15/2011 9:52:24 PM PST by allendale
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To: Arthurio

RIP


56 posted on 12/15/2011 9:54:50 PM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: napscoordinator; OneVike; SatinDoll; All

Having spent over 2 decades caring for people on their deathbed, many of them atheists and a few agnostics, deathbed confessions are not nearly as common as some people would like to believe. It makes the survivors feel better. Every time I had one of those situations I had to deal with family asking what was going to happen to them. That is not a position anyone wants to be in.

My father was an atheist and proudly remained one on his deathbed, my uncle was cursing and going on about God not existing as his final words.

I suspect Hitchens was a lot like my uncle.


57 posted on 12/15/2011 9:54:53 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

cancer

even the word looks evil


58 posted on 12/15/2011 9:55:19 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Arthurio
Lord, he was as imperfect as all of us. Show him Your mercy and invite him into the Kingdom he so long denied to himself. R.I.P., Hitchens.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

59 posted on 12/15/2011 9:55:31 PM PST by Viking2002 (Hippies smell.)
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To: Arthurio
One of the finest writers that ever wrote.

Commie bastard.

We're sorry to see ya go.

The man had a talent worthy of respect and admiration.

60 posted on 12/15/2011 9:55:41 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SatinDoll
Even if he is going to hell, you should be grieving that fact instead of gloating over it in this disgusting way. And then you defend your ugly words instead of apologizing and repenting. You are presumably a Christian, so you should know better than to carry on in this uncharitable manner. The loss of a soul is a terrible thing and not an occasion for pride on the part of those who smugly assume that they know the score and they're going to Heaven.
61 posted on 12/15/2011 9:56:15 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: All

Hitchens was a unique spirit who marched to his own drummer. It would be presumptuous for anyone to assume the final destination of his spirit, for that is in the hands of God. No matter what our clergy may say about belief, God is the ultimate arbiter of our position in the afterlife, certainly Jesus helps a lot, but any who condemn a firey end for Hitch, do so because they think it will raise their own prospects, as some sort of arbiter of judgement. And in the end a person’s position in the afterlife is solely in His hands. On balance, I believe Hitch will be well treated because no matter what one can say about his lack of religiousity, he understood gross evil emblematic of Islamofacism, and spoke out.


62 posted on 12/15/2011 9:58:02 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: reaganaut
So you are a universalist?

Agnostic.

63 posted on 12/15/2011 9:58:15 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: reaganaut

I noticed the Unitarian Church in one town in Arkansas is having a winter soltice celebration and then doing crafts for their “Christmas Celebration”. It was in the State Paper today and I just shook my head in disbelief. Hitchins MIGHT have had a death time conversion. Who knows? I highly doubt it. And if you ever watched any of his debates on many University campuses he might have caused others to follow his lead. That will not go over well in heaven.


64 posted on 12/15/2011 9:58:21 PM PST by therut
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To: Mariner

LOL! - I think he’d laugh at that as well.


65 posted on 12/15/2011 9:59:44 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: eddie willers

Ahh, a fence sitter. Got it.


66 posted on 12/15/2011 10:00:10 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Arthurio

RIP.


67 posted on 12/15/2011 10:01:23 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: Arthurio

May God have mercy on his soul.


68 posted on 12/15/2011 10:02:41 PM PST by mockingbyrd
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To: Mariner

A wee dram for Christopher ...

69 posted on 12/15/2011 10:02:56 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: therut

I avoided him like the plauge for the most part. Garbage in, garbage out.

I have seen clips of his debates and it made me very angry because he was knowingly and intentionally turning people from God. And he was good at it. In my mind that makes him evil.

Is it theoretically possible for him to have a deathbed conversion? Sure. Likely? Not a chance.

And frankly I am rather disgusted at all the people fawning over him.


70 posted on 12/15/2011 10:03:10 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: SatinDoll

I don’t deserve to be in heaven. You don’t deserve to be in heaven.

Anyone who makes it only makes it by the grace of God who sent his own son to die for us so that we have a chance down to the last breath.


71 posted on 12/15/2011 10:04:27 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: therut
I noticed the Unitarian Church in one town in Arkansas is having a winter soltice celebration and then doing crafts for their “Christmas Celebration”.

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72 posted on 12/15/2011 10:04:45 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Arthurio

His finest moment =

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/354470.stm

“War criminal, criminal psychopath and rapist” are descriptions of Bill Clinton that you won’t find in the Starr report.

They are all charges made by Christopher Hitchens whose new book on the US president, No One Left To Lie To, is riding high in the American bestseller lists.


73 posted on 12/15/2011 10:04:55 PM PST by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: SatinDoll

I’ve just read through the entire 40+ posts on this thread, and so while what I’m about to say is critical specifically of what you said, please don’t interpret my criticism to be directed solely towards you and what a total prick you really are.

If I can interrupt for a moment your gloating dance on Christoper Hitchens’ grave, maybe I could point out that he, like you, and like me, are born into sin and condemned to hell. Presumably you, as have I, accepted Jesus’ sacrifice as the atonement for your sin. I would therefore expect that you, like me, would agree with God that He does not wish that any (no, not even Christopher Hitchens) should perish in hell. So, what the hell are you saying....?


74 posted on 12/15/2011 10:06:18 PM PST by kevao
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To: Viking2002

Lord, he was as imperfect as all of us. Show him Your mercy and invite him into the Kingdom he so long denied to himself. R.I.P., Hitchens.


Extremely well said, Viking2002. Thank you.


75 posted on 12/15/2011 10:08:22 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: eddie willers

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-kTFIO3wkA

When Socrates was sentenced to death, for his philosophical investigations and his blasphemy, for challenging the gods of the city, he accepted his death.

He did say, “Well, if we’re lucky, perhaps I’ll be able to hold a conversation with other great thinkers and philosophers and doubters too!”

In other words, that the discussion about what is good, what is beautiful, what is noble and what is pure and what is true can always go on.

Why is that important, why would I like to do that? Because that is the only conversation worth having. And whether it goes on or not after I die, I don’t know, but I do know that it is the conversation I want to have while I am still alive.

Which means that to me, the offer of certainty, the offer of complete security, the offer of an impermeable faith that can’t give way, is an offer of something not worth having.

I want to live my life taking the risk all the time that I don’t know anything like enough yet.

That I haven’t understood enough.

That I can’t know enough, that I’m always hungrily operating on the margins of a potentially great harvest of future knowledge and wisdom.

I wouldn’t have it any other way.

And I urge you to look at those of you that tell you... those people that tell you at your age that you are dead until you believe as they do. What a terrible thing it is to be telling to children. And that you can only live... and that you can only live by accepting an absolute authority.

Don’t think of that as a gift, think of it as a poison chalice.

Push it aside no matter how tempting it is.

Take the risk of thinking for yourself.

Much more happiness, truth, beauty and wisdom will come to you that way.

- Christopher Hitchens

1949 - 2011.


76 posted on 12/15/2011 10:10:17 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: BigEdLB

Well said.


77 posted on 12/15/2011 10:11:23 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Arthurio
Sad. 62 y/o is young.

Brendan Banaszak/NPR

Hitchens was diagnosed with metastasized esophageal cancer in June 2010. He told NPR that while doctors say he has a chance of remission, his chances of living longer than five years are slim.

78 posted on 12/15/2011 10:12:28 PM PST by Daffynition ( *Socialism, has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore it*)
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To: kevao

“...what the hell are you saying....?

Believers go to Heaven. Nonbelievers go to Hell.

So, that makes me a prick?


79 posted on 12/15/2011 10:13:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: ottbmare

Good for you. Well said.


80 posted on 12/15/2011 10:14:05 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: reaganaut
And frankly I am rather disgusted at all the people fawning over him.

I'm with you on this one. He struck me as arrogant and mean. He had a way with words in the same way a really good thief would be in his craft. A unique talent but immoral.

81 posted on 12/15/2011 10:16:03 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: SatinDoll

“...what the hell are you saying....?

Believers go to Heaven. Nonbelievers go to Hell.

So, that makes me a prick?


Yes. You seem to be wishing the man to be in hell.


82 posted on 12/15/2011 10:16:37 PM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You should have some input.


83 posted on 12/15/2011 10:18:30 PM PST by Borges
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To: unkus
No thanks necessary. He was a brilliant human being; just because I did not agree with him on so many issues did I consider myself a better man, nor would I wish him to be judged more harshly than the rest of us. It's my hope that we may all pass the same muster, and see him, fit as a fiddle, one the other side, with stories to tell us that we can only imagine.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

84 posted on 12/15/2011 10:21:02 PM PST by Viking2002 (Hippies smell.)
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To: SatinDoll

Get lost.


85 posted on 12/15/2011 10:21:45 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: SatinDoll

Your gloating that a nonbeliever goes to hell makes you a prick. A really *big* prick in fact.

Read 2 Peter 3:9, and then answer me this, Who is more joyous if Christopher Hitchens has gone to hell — you or God?


86 posted on 12/15/2011 10:23:13 PM PST by kevao
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To: SatinDoll; M. Thatcher

I am appalled at the hypocrisy on this thread. If Hitchens had been a liberal like Bill Maher, rather than making excuses and wishful thinking most people would be “Hope he likes Hell”.

Consistency is important in conservatism.


87 posted on 12/15/2011 10:24:09 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I liked Hitch....being the ol’ #hit stirrer he was.

Prayers for him and his family.


I have to agree....RIP


88 posted on 12/15/2011 10:25:21 PM PST by chasio649 (Stop looking for heroes.)
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To: blasater1960

A unique talent but immoral.

- - - - -
Very well said.


89 posted on 12/15/2011 10:25:57 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Arthurio

Breaking News? Really?


90 posted on 12/15/2011 10:26:26 PM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: reaganaut
What do you mean? Hitchens was for the most part a liberal, way on the left on many issues. He was only with us on a few points at a few times and rejected the beliefs and values of most of us. So what? He didn't harm us, and he stood with us on some important things. He was a great talent, a brilliant man who clearly was wrestling with questions of his mortality and eternal state. So the right thing to do is to pray for mercy for him.

When Mahr dies I'll pray for him as well, even though privately I'll be glad I never have to hear him again. I actually pray for Mahr right now.

91 posted on 12/15/2011 10:29:21 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: unkus

I heard him say in nearly every interview he gave over the last six months to not believe any reports of a deathbed conversion... he said that if he did say something like that while dying, it would be due to his inability to reason anymore.


92 posted on 12/15/2011 10:30:28 PM PST by Southnsoul
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To: Bowtie52
"“Hitchens was an atheist. They don’t get into Heaven.”

Why not?

"My Bible doesn’t teach that people who believe themselves to be smarter or better than God are invited to spend eternity with Him."

We aren't talking about someone that thinks they are smarter than god. We are talking about someone that didn't believe in god. But the question remains. Why should god care so much whether you believe in him?

93 posted on 12/15/2011 10:31:08 PM PST by mlo
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To: SatinDoll

Neither do those who take a simplistic, comic book view of God. Believe it or not, being a white trash,literalist, non-reflective attender of a megachurch doesn’t get you into heaven either.

I know its easy to be simplistic and stupid, but its not getting you to paradise. Sorry.


94 posted on 12/15/2011 10:32:18 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: reaganaut
Class always shows. As does lack of it.

Greeting the news of any death with smug imprecations is classless.

95 posted on 12/15/2011 10:32:50 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Arthurio

well damn

poor fellow


96 posted on 12/15/2011 10:34:10 PM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: Arthurio

I found some of his writing interesting... And he died on my birthday so I’ll always remember that... Hope he found God first.


97 posted on 12/15/2011 10:34:56 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: Arthurio

He was an honest and respectful debater and even though I disagreed with him, I did enjoy his style and his thoughtful arguments. I hope he made a death bed conversion. RIP.


98 posted on 12/15/2011 10:35:29 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; isthisnickcool

that poster is something of a troll...

goes on threads of many different subjects and always provocative and confrontational

weird

if you could mine the facts I guarantee you it would be something odd

the other day she was all Helen Reddy and very hardcore femmebot...and with that super girly nick?

something is adrift


99 posted on 12/15/2011 10:37:41 PM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: ottbmare

Sorry, I pray for the living, not the dead. There are no second chances. I prayed for Hitchens for a long time, even just the other night when his name was brought up. But he made his bed and now he has to lie in it. I would have rejoiced if he had changed his mind but there is no evidence that he did or had any intention of doing so. As I posted upthread, there are actually very few deathbed conversions in my experience.

AFA, being a ‘liberal’ he attended at least one FR event (someone else posted about meeting him there), and other than religion, he was pretty much a 9/12er according to people esp when it came to Islam.


100 posted on 12/15/2011 10:38:14 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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