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R.I.P. Christopher Hitchens
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Posted on 12/15/2011 9:12:53 PM PST by Arthurio

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To: DoughtyOne

*BUMP* once again FRiend!

Hitchens would no doubt approve of your #116.

Kudos.


151 posted on 12/15/2011 11:59:50 PM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well done.


152 posted on 12/16/2011 12:04:24 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: reaganaut
“By definition if he didn’t believe in God, then he believed he was smarter than God.”

Award for the dumbest post on this thread.

153 posted on 12/16/2011 12:06:06 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Viking2002; All
Lord, he was as imperfect as all of us. Show him Your mercy and invite him into the Kingdom he so long denied to himself. R.I.P., Hitchens.

Well said FRiend, and Amen to that.

And I will also say that some of the vicious and judgmental comments I'm reading in the wake of the death of Christopher Hitchens makes me wonder if the Westboro 'Baptist' Church somehow made some secret inroads into FR when nobody was looking.

They know who they are. And I say shame on them.
154 posted on 12/16/2011 12:08:47 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: mkjessup

Thank you.

Your suggestion of approval, was much appreciated.

IMO, he was a cut above, and deserved as much.

Take care.


155 posted on 12/16/2011 12:09:26 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: Gator113

Thank you.


156 posted on 12/16/2011 12:11:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Another FREEPER pretending to be God, or at least speak for him.
157 posted on 12/16/2011 12:12:25 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: starlifter

So, you tell me, do you believe you are smarter than something that doesn’t exist? Are you smarter than the Loch Ness Monster or Bigfoot?

Or are they smarter than you?


158 posted on 12/16/2011 12:14:47 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Arthurio
RIP Hitchens.

Good guy, brilliant in many ways, nuts in some others.

159 posted on 12/16/2011 12:16:01 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: DoughtyOne

We knew Hitchens was dying, yet it is still sad. He had a fine, independent mind and spoke his piece brilliantly.

Rememember, his brother is a Conservative. I believe their father committed suicide. That’s hard on chidren.

RIP Christopher....


160 posted on 12/16/2011 12:16:32 AM PST by Island Girl
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To: Island Girl

ahem... children

my contacts need to go to bed.


161 posted on 12/16/2011 12:18:13 AM PST by Island Girl
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To: Island Girl

Yes, it is sad. I agree with your thoughts. I appreciate you sharing them. I too wish him to RIP. His death was a loss.


162 posted on 12/16/2011 12:24:21 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: SatinDoll; wardaddy

I think I’ve found your problem...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2820149/posts?page=17#17

Your response on this thread is totally devoid of compassion and class.


163 posted on 12/16/2011 12:28:59 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: OneVike
Christopher Hitchens was not responsible for the final death of anyone. A man's soul is his own. You make your own decisions on this earth. Nobody had to listen to him, or agree with him.

I'm with a previous poster - I found Hitchens infuriating, pompous, cynical, insulting and very arrogant. Much like most Humanists actually. But I don't rejoice in his passing. I don't take joy in the death of any Human Being, especially one who was so far from eternal truth.

164 posted on 12/16/2011 12:30:56 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Arthurio

On the big question, he was either wrong and knows it, or right and doesn’t.


165 posted on 12/16/2011 12:31:13 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Arthurio

RIP. I was surprised to see how young he was. My mother died of this disease so I’ve related to this story. She was a very smart heavy drinker and smoker too, but she was less cranky than Hitchens (a bit) and far more consistent in her thinking (much so).

Miss you mom!


166 posted on 12/16/2011 12:32:08 AM PST by jocon307
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To: DoughtyOne

“In the end he left me without his voice, for all time.”

He had quite a “voice”, didn’t he?

I don’t understand why those who disagreed with him have to be so disagreeable about his passing.

His voice was one to which we needed to listen, as frustrating as it could be at times.

RIP Mr. Hitchens. You will be missed.


167 posted on 12/16/2011 12:33:57 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: garjog
Thats a good point. Most CS Lewis quotes are actually - what a genius the man was - it's a terrible tragedy we don't seem to have such warriors for the faith these days.

Anyway, he's right. The real enemies of the Christian faith are not atheists, or new-agers, or even muslims, they are apathy, nominalism and agnosticism.

168 posted on 12/16/2011 12:40:14 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: kevao; SatinDoll

I want to think that his brother’s prayers, and mine as well, were not in vain.

A few months ago, in a radio interview, Hitchens expressed how very touched he felt by all the people who were praying for him. SatinDoll, were you also praying for him? Which is easier, to say a short prayer for him as he was living, or to condemn him at the end?


169 posted on 12/16/2011 12:40:50 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Boehner, you deal making THUG B@st@rd!)
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To: dixiechick2000

i’m not sure what to make of that poster

i suspect it’s a game...could be anyone...probably not who they claim


170 posted on 12/16/2011 12:46:48 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: SatinDoll
It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Hebrews 10:31)

He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:18)

Christopher Hitchens was a proud atheist who continually rejected the free gift of salvation through Jesus Christ after being told repeatedly that reconciliation with God was available and that forgiveness of sin was purchased for him by Jesus.

There comes a time, when a person continually rejects Christ, that God no longer strives with him and gives him over to his choice. God will always respect man's decision to have nothing to do with Him, and will allow man to spend his eternity where man chooses to spend it.

We do no one any favors by pretending that Christopher Hitchens is in a good place now. He is in the place where he always wanted to be.

171 posted on 12/16/2011 1:09:34 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: SatinDoll

Exactly. That’s the cold, hard fact.


172 posted on 12/16/2011 1:10:44 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: ottbmare

Well said


173 posted on 12/16/2011 1:15:11 AM PST by goat granny
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To: reaganaut

Many speak of justice, what is justice? Define it please..


174 posted on 12/16/2011 1:38:32 AM PST by goat granny
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Thank you for pointing out what should be so obvious to others.


175 posted on 12/16/2011 1:39:24 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: starlifter; reaganaut

That remark had my poor old brain go HUH...make no sense to me..and quit trying to figure it out...


176 posted on 12/16/2011 1:42:16 AM PST by goat granny
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To: DoughtyOne

Anyone hearkening back to the clinton days saw Christopher Hitchens do the right thing even though it hurt him personally and deeply. He ws NOT an evil man.
And I too agree with your post.


177 posted on 12/16/2011 2:45:24 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Arthurio
Come, Death, let us today be wed,
For I despise this virgin life,
Let you in black, then, be the groom,
And I, in white, shall be your wife.
Then when the troths and vows are said,
And all the revelry is still,
Together shall we lie in chill
Repose, and make our marriage-bed.


178 posted on 12/16/2011 2:53:35 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

The Lord always has room for an honest man. Hitchens was that if nothing else. Seems to me the Lord sought only ten honest men to save a city. There was only one. The city was not saved, but the man was. NEVER claim to speak for G-d or what G-d wants. THAT is blasphemy...


179 posted on 12/16/2011 2:54:06 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: dixiechick2000; DoughtyOne; doug from upland
Like Gore Vidal, a very sharp tool, exceptionally so.

I think in a way beyond our imagining God will use him, probably has used him all through his Hamlet-like climbing the stairs of his tower.

I did buy his No One Left to Lie To though I guess I didn't mark it because it was jettisoned while other books remained.

I think he straw-manned his anti-God argument. I think he was compelled to fight unreasoned faith with reason.

I think it's as likely he convinced anyone as it was that our Baptist counsellor at age eight convinced us to eschew burning in Hell by knowing Jesus.

The one's goal is to entice you away with high thoughts; the other, to scare you into something with dark fears.

His great gift would be his full kit of surgical sardonicism.

May he find his blissful counterstroke having relaxed his resistance.


180 posted on 12/16/2011 2:54:32 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Arthurio

Without faith it is impossible to please God.


181 posted on 12/16/2011 2:55:37 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: SatinDoll
Glorius, glorius surprise! As in shoveling coal in Hell?

I am pleased to see that several FReepers chastised you in real time for this despicable comment.

182 posted on 12/16/2011 2:58:31 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: MestaMachine

That’s what I’ll remember him for. Telling the absolute brutal truth about the then president of the United States better than anyone else at the time.


183 posted on 12/16/2011 3:04:36 AM PST by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: SatinDoll
Uh...it is nice of you to hope he might have done so. But Hitchens didn’t seem the type for a deathbed conversion.

The real problem with this comment and all of the self ordained judges of the disposition of souls is that you yourself are not competent to judge. Stating it as opinion is on the level of asserting that the moon is composed of cheese.

For more on the spiritual danger - Google search and read up on "prelest."

184 posted on 12/16/2011 3:10:46 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: isthisnickcool
I agree! We did a study in Sunday School a couple of years ago that pointed out that NO ONE knows what happens between the heart of a person and God in the final seconds before death. The minute I saw the news about Hitch’s death I breathed a prayer that he found his way to Him and is even now in the presence of Jesus. Not even those who were there at his deathbed know whether he did or not. When we get to Heaven, we will see!!
185 posted on 12/16/2011 3:28:28 AM PST by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing;therefore choose life..")
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To: mkjessup
And I will also say that some of the vicious and judgmental comments I'm reading in the wake of the death of Christopher Hitchens makes me wonder if the Westboro 'Baptist' Church somehow made some secret inroads into FR when nobody was looking. They know who they are. And I say shame on them.

It's a good question. I think of the scathing rebukes our Lord saved for the smug and self righteous ones of His time - the ones who thought they had it ALL figured out.

I also think of the parable of the sheep and the goats - many surprise on that day, as our Lord tells us.

186 posted on 12/16/2011 3:30:13 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: John W

He is the one who actually testified that the clintonistas had planned to cast monica lewinsky as a crazy bimbo who came on to bj along with other so-called crazy groupies. He did it because he believed it was horrible and dishonest. He did it even though it cost him a friendship. He did it under oath. He did it even though he was ostracized and crucified by the lsm. He did it. When NO ONE ELSE WOULD...when all the so-called good Christians and Jews up there on Capitol Hill and in the clinton administration defended clinton and protected him and lied for him.
WHO in this board has done anything even remotely comparable?
How dare any human judge what G-d thinks or why.


187 posted on 12/16/2011 3:35:19 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: BigEdLB

“On balance, I believe Hitch will be well treated because no matter what one can say about his lack of religiousity, he understood gross evil emblematic of Islamofacism, and spoke out.”

It is not the recognition of evil (in whatever form) that gets you into Heaven. It’s the realization/acceptance of that alone which is Good (Christ). Without a personal relationship with the living God, through the Lord Jesus Christ, one cannot enter into the kingdom of God, indeed, one cannot even see the kingdom of God (see John: 3).


188 posted on 12/16/2011 3:44:26 AM PST by MarDav
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To: OneVike

Boy, you’re a cheerful earful on FR. You remind me of Preacher in Night of the Hunter.

Christopher: rest in peace.


189 posted on 12/16/2011 3:45:22 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Still heartless after all these years...)
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To: doug from upland

It was Christopher Hitchens (as well as the blue dress) that saved Monica Lewinsky. After Sidney Blumenthal told him that he was going to smear her, Christopher revealed it to the press. He then worked hard to get rid of the Clinton presidency.

For that alone, he deserves a seat in Heaven. And all those holy rollers condemning him to hell should be ashamed of themselves.


190 posted on 12/16/2011 3:53:54 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Still heartless after all these years...)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; SatinDoll

Be grateful. Heaven is full of sinners.

You two don’t have a CLUE who is there and who is not. Get over your pride and admit it.

RIP, Mr. Hitchens.


191 posted on 12/16/2011 4:00:17 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: miss marmelstein

If, at the end, he continued to reject Christ as his Lord & Saviour, he will go to hell.

His choice & decision - no one else’s.


192 posted on 12/16/2011 4:00:52 AM PST by newfreep (I am a "terrorist". I am Sarah Palin!)
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To: OneVike

Neither do you have a clue where souls are. You are not that bright. And you did NOT get an advance copy of the Book of Life. You are clueless. Get over yourself.

RIP Mr. Hitchens.


193 posted on 12/16/2011 4:02:19 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Arthurio
The Village Atheist, Edgar Lee Masters.

Ye young debaters over the doctrine
Of the soul's immortality
I who lie here was the village atheist,
Talkative, contentious, versed in the arguments
Of the infidels.
But through a long sickness
Coughing myself to death
I read the Upanishads and the poetry of Jesus.
And they lighted a torch of hope and intuition
And desire which the Shadow,
Leading me swiftly through the caverns of darkness,
Could not extinguish.
Listen to me, ye who live in the senses
And think through the senses only:
Immortality is not a gift,
Immortality is an achievement;
And only those who strive mightily
Shall possess it.

194 posted on 12/16/2011 4:03:28 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks for your wonderful words, Mesta. I’m shocked that so many people do not remember their history. Freepers at the time of the Lewinsky scandal LOVED Hitchens and took him to their hearts. Now some of them are praying he rots in hell. I’m disgusted with some of them.


195 posted on 12/16/2011 4:04:50 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Still heartless after all these years...)
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To: newfreep

You have no idea what he did “at the end.” Personally, I don’t care one way or the other. He was a brilliant writer and a fighter for many good causes (as well as ones I disagreed with).

His last column in VF was about how he no longer believed the aphorism “that which doesn’t kill me makes me stronger.” If he backed off that one, he may very well have backed off his views on God and eternity.

But as I said, I don’t care one way or the other. RIP, Christopher.


196 posted on 12/16/2011 4:08:52 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Still heartless after all these years...)
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To: miss marmelstein

Lighten up, Francis!

Of course I don’t know what he did at the end of his earthly life, Captain Obvious.

My post simply clarified your post that the good he did should get him into Heaven.

Clearly you lack the intellect to comprehend God’s Word that ONLY believing Christ as your Lord and Savior will allow you to enter Heaven.

Good deeds but rejecting Christ will ensure one’s eternity in hell.

That’s God’s rule - not mine.


197 posted on 12/16/2011 4:14:31 AM PST by newfreep (I am a "terrorist". I am Sarah Palin!)
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To: dinoparty

The Bible is so full of very clear statements that Christ is the only way to God and that even Christ Himself posited this as truth, that your comments are, at best, disingenuous, for someone who proclaims to have read the New Testament over and over again.

“I am the way, the truth and the Life, no man cometh to the Father except by Me,” seems like a pretty clear indication of what Christ believed was the way to Heaven. Apprehension of this truth is not something gained by intellectual pursuit, but by a transformative Spirit-generated faith that “sees” God’s truth in His Word. Jesus calls it being “born again” (John chap. 3), and except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Jesus said the consequence of not having that Spirit-generated transformative faith in Him is to remain in your sins, where, ultimately, the person experiences sin’s consequence: death. “I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”

The very simple, but life-changing truth is this: “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved,” (from Acts chapter 16). This is pretty specific, don’t you think? All that are His know this, believe this, acknowledge this, profess this. It is the message of joy this holiday season...that one can be born again by receiving Him whose goings forth were foretold from of old.

Many have read these truths over and over again and have missed their import. Grasping the scriptures on an intellectual level is great. I’m sure Mr. Hitchens was quite good at this. But being, instead, grasped by the scriptures and their spiritual truth is another matter entirely. Jesus, when He was talking about His imminent death on the cross to His disciples said, “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.” God gives His Spirit so that people can have the scriptures illuminated and made clear. Mr. Hitchens, you, I or anyone else cannot manufacture the kind of illumination (saving faith) that does this. It is God’s spirit which illuminates, which “gives life...the flesh profits nothing,” and His spirit comes to those who are seeking Him.


198 posted on 12/16/2011 4:16:23 AM PST by MarDav
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To: cynwoody

Interesting article, thanks for linking.


199 posted on 12/16/2011 4:17:41 AM PST by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: newfreep

I won’t lighten up. I only met Christopher Hitchens once and he made an excellent impression on me. Having read him since the 1970s, I feel I have come to know him. His final VF article saddened me. He was a fine writer and a fellow American. I noticed in the Guardian obit photo, he is wearing his Remembrance Day poppy - so he was patriotic, too.

What a sad and cynical outlook you have on life and death.

Rip, Christopher.


200 posted on 12/16/2011 4:25:13 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Still heartless after all these years...)
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